Mine have started!

No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

Very pretty, Louise!
Still hoping I will get some inflos on mine. That California Sunset just keeps on blooming, though. :-)

Yuma, AZ

Great pictures Louise, beautiful flowers...what does the Nebels Rainbow smell like? Is it strong? I have a rainbow that I got from Hawaii that looks very similar to your picture, that has a very strong scent.
Davie

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Thank you Davie and Kathleen..Neither Nebel's Rainbow or Carmen have a strong scent at all. Very faint. I did get Nebel's Rainbow from Hawaii also. I will go out and sniff and see if I can let you know what it smells like. Calif. Sunset is the only one with a strong scent right now.
Kathleen, what does your Calif. Sunset smell like? I did tell you that the plumie I sent you the cutting of has an inflo on it didn't I? I'll take pictures of it when it blooms, looks like it might be a couple of weeks.

No. San Diego Co., CA(Zone 10b)

Unfortunately, I can hardly smell my CA Sunset at all (allergies), but what Is there is very nice. Also, I don't think we're getting the heat here that you are. The mornings are still overcast and the ocean breeze is strong. We're enjoying the mild weather, but I'm sure the plumies would rather have that heat! lol

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

So I hear.

Yuma, AZ

Thanks Louise...Might not be the same rainbow then, mine has a strong scent.
Davie

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Maybe because you're hotter than we are I'm wondering?

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hi Louise! Nebel's Rainbow is here: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/101511/ My 'Nebel's Rainbow' had a faint scent too, which is why I ended up selling it, but it was beautiful, and yours is too.

'California Sunset' hasn't been entered into PF yet because, for a long time, it was believed to be the same cultivar as 'Penang Peach' with a different name; however, I think the consensus now is that it is a seedling of 'Penang Peach.' If you want to enter the picture into PF, I'll make an entry for it. Yours is beautiful!

Your 'Carmen' does look a bit different than other 'Carmen's' that I have seen, but it could have something to do with heat and lighting that makes it look a bit different.

Here is a picture of my former 'Nebel's Rainbow':

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Here's a close-up. The red in the flower is brought out by more intense heat.

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Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Thank you Clare, yes you can enter CA Sunset if you'd like. Is that a good enough picture?
The reason I couldn't find Nebel's Rainbow is because I only looked under plumeria and not plumeria rubra, duh Louise!
I don't know how you tell one plumie from the other, these all seem so similar unless they're white or red or pink, I can't tell the difference! I spose it take hours of studying photos.
Even thought it doesn't have a strong fragrance, I'll keep it! Hey at least it bloomed for me!

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Lovely.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Here's the entry for 'California Sunset': http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/175399/ It may need to be verified by the admin before it actually shows up in PlantFiles.

I think that, once you study the differences in the flowers -- the petal shape, the overlap, the size, the striping, the color patterns -- you start to recognize the characteristics after a while, and they jump out at you over time.^_^ That being said, it is still very difficult to put a name to a cultivar from a picture, and there can be subtle and not-so-subtle differences that can affect the appearance of flowers of the same cultivars in different climates and different growing conditions. 'California Sunset' looks like 'Penang Peach' to me, but seedlings can often look like one of their parents, and there might be differences that I can't see from pictures such as growth habit and leaf shape, leaf length, etc.

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Yuma, AZ

A lot of people also think that Som Garasin is the same plant as Penang Peach..but after studying all spring and summer I see some subtle differsnces...especially since it has been really hot (108 day 83 night) the SG in the heat turns a differnent shade of red and has more red in the flower than the PP. Scent is similar. Has same petal hook, and leaf point/hook, I think SG might be a seedling of PP. I have heard that many varieties have originated from PP. Just my opinion of the two.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Davie, red is tricky because it needs the most heat to show itself in a flower. I too am of the opinion that 'Som Garasin' and 'Som Kalasin' are 'Penang Peach,' but I've never done a side-by-side comparison in the exact same growing conditions and environment. The rounded leaves and hook at the tip are supposed to be telling of 'Penang Peach,' but I don't know if the seedlings inherited that trait or not. It does make a good parent to hybridize with, I'm told.

A lot of Penang Peach seedlings have the hook.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Ah, that's good to know. I just checked my 'Lampang Symphony.' I think that's a seedling of 'Penang Peach,' but I'm not sure about that. It has very full gorgeous round leaves with a slight hook at the tips.

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Thanks Clare for the information. You explain it so clearly. At this point, I'd still need a microscope to see some of the subtle differences!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

^_^ Just enjoy them;-) Sometime we analyze them too much and forget to enjoy them!

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Kind of like people huh Clare??!?!!?

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