WIsteria

Can you cut a piece and start a vine from the cutting

The answer is yes, but it will be many years before it will reach flowering maturity, Wisteria's are now normally grafted onto a stronger root stock as they take ages to grow from seeds and cuttings to flowering state, but if you have the patience, time and luck, you can take cuttings, use cutting material that has not flowered, take a few cuttings to make sure you have one strong growing one and wait till it has good strong growth and root ball before you plant it out in the garden, they like a good rich organic growing area when it is ready for the garden planting, prob in about 5 years time, and maybe another 10 to 15 years before it flowers, depending on the type. good luck. WeeNel.

I think cuttings may bloom within a few years--it's seed grown ones that take forever. No personal experience on this though, that's just what I've heard/read.

I bought a Wisteria tree from Gurneys back in the early 80's. I tried and tried to get it to bloom. I had a grower friend that told me all sorts of things to do to try to force it to bloom. Cut the root system back at the base of the tree then I tried cutting it way back some mix of Epsom salts. Nothing it was a real nice tree just no blooms. I finally cut it down a few years ago. I just gave up.....
A friend had one that in the spring would be just full of blooms and it was beautiful, so I just enjoyed his lol

Good Luck with yours

Amos

I was like you too, paid a fortune for the plant, it was huge and my husband wasn't too pleased when he heard the price, but I showed him a picture of this wonderful wall covered in early spring with masses of hanging flower-heads, well like you, I waited about 10 years for this to bloom, fed it, pruned it, moved it, protected it for some harsh winters, I had 2 grand kids born and start school and still no flowers, then a friend of mine brought someone she met and who worked in the royal botanical gardens, he was interested in my gardening methods (so he said) so told him and showed him the plant, he had a good laugh when I told him the price, the time I had struggled and all the different treatment I gave it, he informed me it must have been rooted from a cutting and they can take up to 30 years to reach flowering maturity, the way they get them into flowering earlier now-a-days is by grafting the shoots onto older stronger type of root stock and that's where the high cost comes into these plants, they need to be cared for, for so many years before they will flower, I still have this plant, now 30 years old, still no flowers, prune it by the book every year, but my husband bought me a new one, Grafted onto root stock, and after 5 years, it flowered for me, no different treatment, it is a different type so this will obviously make a difference, so I can vouch, these plants are very temperamental for a lot of folks, but you will never know about your cuttings unless you try, so go for it, what will it cost you, nothing except give you some new experiences, good luck. WeeNel.

I purchased a chinese wisteria from a big box store and after 4 yrs still have no blooms...then I drive down the road and see wisteria blooming like crazy all over the place in the woods, at the stop signs, you name it...I swear I am going out with my shovel one nite soon on a hunt...LOL I mean the ones I see are barely 3' tall and have several blooms on them and you know there is nothing done at all to the ones here in the carolinas that grow wild everywhere...can't believe so many survived last years drought...I guess thats what I need to do...start neglecting the tree and maybe it will shape up! LOL

I see an awful lot of posts from people who have trouble with their wisteria not blooming which tells me it's a bit picky about proper conditions before it blooms. I know they need full sun to bloom well, and I also think if you fertilize it to much and give it too much love it will also not bloom. They bloom on old wood so pruning it too much at the wrong time can also make it not bloom. I had one at my old house and it got watered occasionally but I never, ever fertilized it and it bloomed like a champ every year. So neglecting it might not be a bad idea!

that is one thing I haven't ever done for it - fertilize...I had read that somewhere so I have not fert. it...also - you may be right about the full sun issue - mine is planted where it gets sun from sunup until about 1 or a bit earlier...do you think it's moveable at this stage of the game? I guess I really don't have anything to lose at this point!

Your problem could be sun--I've read several places that they need full sun in order to bloom well so a place that just gets morning sun may not be enough for it. As far as moving it--anything's moveable if you want to badly enough! I don't know how big yours is but make sure you dig up as much of the rootball as possible. I also wouldn't do it now heading into summer, probably better to wait until the fall and do it then. No matter how careful you are, you're going to lose a good amount of its roots when you dig it up and it'll be much less stressful for the plant if it has a nice long time to get established before it has to put up with summer heat.

that is an excellant point! ok ...i shall put it on my fall to do list...

Hummmm I just rememerd something... I gave my girlfriend a piece of it at least 10 years ago. She trained it to go around her deck, it is a monster.... Still no blooms. It must be the plant I got all those years ago.
It is the only thing I have never gotten to bloom in my life time of gardening.

Crazy! it makes me feel like buying a new one to prove a point to myself that it was the plant and not the grower:)

Amos

rednyr wrote;"...I swear I am going out with my shovel one nite soon on a hunt...LOL I mean the ones I see are barely 3' tall and have several blooms on them and you know there is nothing done at all to the ones here in the carolinas that grow wild everywhere..."

I'm with you, I don't get it. Wht is it that there are SO many wisteria blooming in my area, but mine just die? It isn'r sun, some of the wild ones are in the woods, and I KNOW no-one fertilizes them.

Rednyr, want to go on a Midnight Shovel Run??

It really could be the neglect factor...they do not need a lot of water and fertilizer, so if they get watered and fertilized along with the rest of your garden they may be less likely to bloom because they spend their time on green growth instead.. The wild in the wood ones don't get anything besides rainfall and are never fertilized.

I think the wild ones that are only about 3 feet tall are still attached to the parent plant and they have probably just grew such long tendrils, they have fallen to the ground and rooted but still getting nourished from the parent, the plants I have are growing on South facing walls as given in planting info, the pruning was given as twice per year, late summer reduce to about 8 buds and early summer reduce these cuts to 3 buds unless you want to keep the extra growth to cover an area that needs large coverage, I do know the 2 plants I have, the one that is blind as I call it and the one that has flowered, needs a really strong support as these stems are so strong, I think I read somewhere that it was the only plant that twined anti clockwise, but could be wrong with that info, I dont care about the twine, I am like the last writer, it is the only plant that I have had total failure with, even my Tulip tree eventually flowered for me last year for the first time, after 15 years, so maybe there's hope for all our Wisterias yet, good luck. Weenel.

I rooted 4 cuttings about 5 years ago. I trained 2 of them to grow upright as trees and are now about 5 ft tall. I trained 2 of the cuttings to grow on 2 different arbors and they really took off. All 4 plants are really invasive and need to be kept trimmed after blooming. they all bloomed for me last year just a little bit but all just finished blooming last week. Bunches of blooms this year. I just ignore all 4 and just trim as needed. they get rain water and not much of the water hose.2 of them are in full sunlight and 2 of them in partial shade. Really beautiful. I tried for several years to just get some to root and was finally successful, then waited for blooms. I guess I am fortunate that I didn't have to wait very long.

Hi Susie, do you know what type of Wisteria you have as I am beginning to wonder if this makes the difference, I think mine are Chinese Sinensis or something like that, It's late here and cant go look at the labels, and also neglect is the new caring as far as my wisteria goes from now on, I am baffled at the lack of flowers myself and others are having, lets hope it works for me, I am a great believer that if it dont perform, then it was never for you, but I really have given my all to this no good flowering climber. you are so lucky. thanks WeeNel.

This was cuttings out of the East Texas Piney woods. A friend had many growing in his yard and shared with me. I don't know what kind it is, only the kind that grows in the woods. I also live in a rural area that is wooded, so maybe the climate and soil makes a difference. Sorry I can't help with the name. I took the photo as it just beginning to bloom.

It's one of the Asian wisterias (Chinese is W. sinensis and Japanese is W. floribunda). Those two are the most commonly grown wisterias here (even though they're not nearly as well behaved as native American wisterias like W. frutescens). And they're both invasive in many areas, so you'll definitely find them growing in the wild even though they're not native.

Thanks once again Ecrane, I am beginning to think someone has introduced a new type of Wisteria, one that just teases anyone who thinks they are going to be chopping their way through millions of drooping flowers, YEH RIGHT, I am about to rename mine as N.F.G. I will for now say that means " not for garden" but right now after looking at that lovely picture above, it could almost mean anything with words starting with these letters, I am gutted now that I have seen that picture, do I always tell folks to be patient, Oh YEH that's right, I do, thank you, WeeNel.

Catmad - ready when you are!!! how far is Pelzer? cause Newberry has a mother lode of wisteria everywhere right now...whatcha doing tom nite LOL

I've never heard Wisteria's blooming was a problem Mine is enormous,but I seldom prune it. I never water or fetilize it and it blooms every early spring.They need full sun

I think the key is that you never water or fertilize...I suspect sometimes when they have trouble blooming it's because they've had a bit too much TLC. I never had trouble with mine either with no fertilizer and infrequent water, and everyone seems to have them blooming like crazy in the woods and fields where they don't get any special care, so then when they don't bloom in the garden, it's often the water and fertilizer that are the difference.

I am ready to deprive my Wisteria of any kindness, not even going to look willingly at it this year, I'll be like a kid who just ignores something or anyone they want to, I wont even go see if it's OK, if it is going to flower for me, then I will see it from the window, then it will know who's boss, so wish me luck, I will report soon as the flowering season for here is May. Thanks everyone. WeeNel.

God luck,WeeNel.I'llkeepmy fingers crossed.

I don't know where I got this - but somewhere it says to root prune them.
I have the same problem though. No flowers. (I have not root pruned it either.)

I read the same about root pruning, but I haven't done it yet. You are suposed to do it in middle winter when it has no leaves

I don't know if root pruning can help or not, but it's certainly not necessary. The one at my old house bloomed great every year and I never root pruned it, and all the ones that people are seeing blooming in the woods and fields are not root pruned.

root prune if you are not getting any blooms is what I meant.