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What color would 'wine' be?

linda

I would probably put either Red or Scarlet. Maroon indicates more brownish, I think.

I uploaded to PF two photo's of my AV 'Celery'. The photo's aren't great but hopefully more folks who have this plant will add their photo's to PF.

Thanks, Lin! That'll be a big help. Has your 'Celery' bloomed? What color? And would you describe it as a standard in size? Does it trail?

I'll see about getting the hybridizer added, and hopefully we can fill in other details as we learn them. :-)

edited to apologize... I just scrolled up and realized I was on the A to Z thread, and I probably should've posted this discussion about finding details for these 3 AVs in another thread so as not to confuse things in the organization thread.

This message was edited Aug 28, 2007 12:55 PM

I'm assuming it is a standard .... does not look like it's going to be a trailer to me. Bloom is purple.

My apologies for posting here too ... didn't know where else to post that I had uploaded the pic's.

RDT- I had a wine-colored one. There was a photo there that looked pink and I saw a photo at the AVSA website that was more purplish. So I marked the box for:
magenta (pink-purple).

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=3897162

Here's the AVSA site's photo:
http://www.avsa.org/Photographs/NataliePineaultLrg.jpg#http://../Photographs/NataliePineaultLrg.jpg#

Chantaspring -$7.00- Very unique! Single, yellow, bell-shaped little flowers, bloom in clusters above medium green, pointed foliage. This miniature trailer makes a great little show plant

*****Chantaspring (one word) came to me with 3 distinct crowns..........she was part of the order that got baked by UPS........but she is coming along fine now.......she is on his catalog under miniature trailers

I think that if you're not sure where the color falls in the Bloom Color checkboxes, it's also fine to check off more than one choice to describe the main color. I've checked off both "pink" and "rose" for some, for example. And just now I checked both "cream" and "light yellow" for ChantaSpring, because while the descriptions I've seen say "yellow," the blooms in the photos I've found sure look more "cream" to me.

Thanks, Lin. I'll put 'Celery' in as a standard then, but not a trailer. Without an "official" description that includes bloom color, I'm hesitant to removed Jesse's description of "medium blue" (blues and purples are pretty subjective anyway), but I'll see about adding "purple" to the Bloom Color details.

Gail, I just saw your post... Thanks, that's the description I found at Lyndon Lyon's for ChantaSpring. :-)

That's a nice photo showing the habit and foliage. I hope you'll upload it to PF when you get a chance!

it is one word............Chantaspring......................I am worrying about the files right now............there is also the same information posted on the other thread of plant progress

Gail, it is not one word on all the vendor sites I've seen, including The Violet Gallery, which usually "gets it right." Since I can't check a registered description for the correct spelling, I'm trying to find out the best way to handle it. Don't worry about it any more... I'm sure Joan or Mystic will help me take care of it.

Critter: Here's a photo of my Celery taken the beginning of June. To me the blooms look purple, but yeah I know what you mean when it comes to color. To some it may look blue, to someone else maybe purple so I agree about not changing it until you find an official description. This is one of the pic's I uploaded to PF today and it had a couple of blooms on it then. It will probably be a couple of days before my pics show up in PF.

Lin, I just checked, and your photos have already been added! Thanks! The bloom photo is really helpful, as it shows the "wasp" shape of the bloom (which I suspected from the bustled leaf, but I wasn't sure). It's really a neat plant, and yours looks great!

Thanks Critter. I agree with leaving the description of the bloom color as medium blue as Plantcrazii listed. The more I look at it, I actually agree with the med. blue designation! I have a purple noid blooming that Gessiegail gave me and it is really purple and another plant blooming right now too that is definitely purple. The celery is more to the medium blue shade than purple! I am going back to change my comments referring to the flower color as purple!

Thanks again ... I didn't think the pic's would be there so soon!

I released the photos when I saw you talking about them so you could see them to help with your description.

That was so nice of you to do that! Thank you Mystic!

Thanks, Mystic! You and Joan have been just amazing through this whole process, and I want to be sure you know how much we appreciate your efforts!

I have been lurking on your "working" thread, checking in every now and again, and I commend each and every one of you for the wonderful way you've all worked together as a team to benefit the Gardening World with all of these corrections .... making it better for us all!

Awwww Shucks ;) Peggy and I were just talking last night about how we have enjoyed doing this. You all have been great to work with.

Thank you so much Joan and mystic for all your help in such a nice and supportive way. Check out the first post. We are DONE!

You're very welcome! We had fun with it too.

WAY TO GO LADIES!!!

Yipeee way to go everybody!

Now for the most fun part......................everyone start uploading those photos (gail, too)............and add any plant you have in bloom..................

Now that we have them like you want them please add more entries and photos. We have all spent countless hours on this cleanup. Please make it worth it. I think some of you have got addicted to PF so use that energy to add more entries to PF. Also everybody please add your photos, if you don't know your cultivar, we have an excellent id forum but your best bet with that would be right here in this forum. Ya'll have been wonderful and it was a pleasure to work with all of you. Thank you.

Did we ever address the issue with the Saintpaulia ionantha entry? http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/738/

It's actually a species AV, but the PF page is being used as a catch-all for AV photos and comments. That's why the details include all possible Flower Characteristics, etc.

Could we please have a new page for Saintpaulia hybrids so there's a place for photos and comments about noid AVs and AVs in general? And then move all the extraneous photos from the S. ionantha entry to the new one?

critter............i was told that plant files are not the place for noids................can't remember who in administration told me...................
We are each getting in our AVSA meeting in Sept each a Saintpaulia ionantha for every member to grow under diffferent conditions...............

I sent that report to Terry. We are trying to do away with all the catch all entires in PF with the species entries, getting all the unknown photos, since we are getting so many of the cultivars etc. added now. There will not be a catch all entry for unnamed hybrids. Those entries where great when PF first started but as it's evolved they are really not necessary. It will do away with folks adding photos of plants they don't really know what they are.

Because there are so many seed-grown plants on the market (like most of the AVs sold at box stores, which are what most people know about), there are a lot of noid AVs -- and many of them are really lovely. It seems a shame to me to have no place for them. I actually like the catch-all entries in PF, they're the first place I go when I'm trying to learn about a new type of plant. There, I can usually find a lot of good comments about culture and conditions that let me know how to treat my new plant without sifting through the notes on 53 different named varieties.

As for folks adding photos and comments about plants when "they don't really know what they are"... well, they'll know it's an African Violet. :-) And without a "general" PF page, I think people are more likely to put photos of noid or lost-tag AVs into PF entries where they seem to fit, which could lead to a lot of errors. (I'm not talking about folks in this forum, who pretty much know how nearly impossible it is to identify an AV from photos and descriptions... remember that PF is open to everyone.)

I guess this is more of a topic for general discussion in a thread in the DG forum... I don't mean to get this thread off onto such a tangent!

Kinda sad to miss out on seeing some of those beauties just because we don't know what their name is.

I strongly agree with the two of you...............................if nothing else, people like to trade leaves of beautiful plants...............I found over 25 gorgeous unidentified minis and semi minis ...............i will never quit growing them as they are prettier than a lot of named ones I have.......................that is why I wish we had a separate place to put all these beauties..........they don't have to "officially" be in plant files but they deserve a place somewhere...........I am serious when I say mine are outstanding keepers for life.............

Yes, and while we can certainly create threads for our favorite noids here on the forum, that doesn't help the person coming to DG for the first time and searching for information about the pretty pink ruffled AV they just bought at WalMart...

Something like an AV sub-forum or rather sub-file.

I bet if we had an AV Noids PF it would have just as many entries as the regular one!

I totally agree with admnistration that they don't belong in plant files...................but we need a place to put them.............people would love to have leaves of mine if they knew what they looked like.................and new people don't have the expertise to know where to go to order leaves...............I just found that about 2 months ago.............
Plus, they don't have the courage to ask for leaves................being new and such...........

I'm not sure why the general entries are being removed from PF. If I want to know details about the appearance or habit of a specific cultivar, I go to the entry for that name... but if I want to find out about a plant more generally, I go to the "catch-all" species entry. That generally lets me find a lot of good information without having to look through a bunch of different cultivar entries that may or may not have any notes added that are useful to me. It's a broader issue than just how to handle AV noids. I guess I'll take a look over at the DG forum and see if there's a thread discussing this change in PF.

(edited for typo)

This message was edited Aug 31, 2007 11:20 AM

I'm not saying that all of them will be removed. Just that some are being phased out that have just become a catch all for plants that people don't know what they have. I don't know if the AV one will be phased out. I was just saying that at some point it might be.

OK, thanks for clearing that up a bit. I understand about people sticking random things into PF, but I still think it's good to have a place to put general comments and observations about a particular type of plant.

There's still the problem of the species S. ionantha being a separate entity from all the hybrid AVs being discussed on that page. If we're not going to get into creating a separate entry at this point, is there any way to bump Snowrose's note up to the top of the list of comments so that people realize that most of the information is about AVs in general and not about the non-hybrid species plant? That might help with any confusion if anybody is looking for information on the species rather than about AVs more generally. ?

I am just looking for somewhere to put pictures of all these avs i will grow all my life...........too pretty.............and love to share leaves with anyone..................