Morning Glories 2007 #02

Here we go with Morning Glories 2007 #02
To Continue Morning Glories 2007 #01
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/720393/

My bloom is Silverbush Convolvulus cneorum
A New Morning Glory for me. As I understand it, this species does not produce seeds.

Also, on a quick research, this is what I have learned about it:
Evergreen mounding shrub, growing rapidly to 4 feet in diameter, 2-3 feet tall; When grown in part shade it becomes more sprawling; smooth, pubescent, gray-green lanceolate leaves, 1 to 2.4 inches long, 0.5 to 0.8 inch wide.

Emma

A view of the Silverbush Convolvulus cneorum Plant

Emma,

That's an interesting looking MG shrub plant. I bet it has a nice fragrance to it too. huh?
Hey great find.

Dee

Thanks Dee,

I hadn't thought to see if it has a fragrance, but will do just that on the next blooms. I think I will really enjoy growing this, and it is hardy for me in my 8a TX Zone. Don't have it in the ground yet, but should this week.

Emma

Welcoming both kpoore2001 and bunsengirl to the MG forum...

Joseph - the cotyledons you posted here
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=3491604
are definitely not Ipomoea tricolor...I.tricolor is always completely glabrous and the new first true leaves are already showing some light fuzziness >visible thanks to the excellent detail available in your photo...

What were the lowest temperatures that the Hewittia survived while overwintering(?)...

The 2 cotyledons from the mix look to be appreciably different...the degree of the cut inbetween the individual lobes in different and the 1st one has a green hypocotyl
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=3491641
while the second one
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=3491649
is sporting red pigmentation...


Colderwild - Seamus - you could start by looking over Dr.Yonedas entire website...
http://protist.i.hosei.ac.jp/Asagao/Yoneda_DB/E/menu.html
http://protist.i.hosei.ac.jp/Asagao/Yoneda_DB/E/menu2.html

bunsengirl - I second the ID on the MG you posted...it's the old fashioned Heavenly Blue >which is a lighter blue as compared to the 'new improved version' which is a darker blue...

Emma - The Convolvulus cneorum can produce seeds but the situation is analagous to the Ipomoea indica plants where most of the plants available are too clonal hence incompatible pollen and no seeds...but >I''d bet that the plants sold in Japan(!) are different enough than the plants sold here in the US...hint(!)...hint(!)...


TTY,...

Ron

Thanks Ron for the explanation.
I Second this: ...hint(!)...hint(!)...
Maybe Dee can find seeds and get some growing so he can share.

Emma

Oh geez! I didn`t see this. I started another 2nd 2007 morning glory thread! Sorry for the mix up. :)

I might should have that one removed to avoid confusion.... sorry!

This message was edited May 13, 2007 1:41 PM

Ron,

The garage is heated passively from the rest of the townhouse. I did not measure the low temperature during winter, however, it probably does not get below 50 degrees F. It was actively growing during the winter and I had to cut back the stems due to mite infestations in this plant and its neighbors.

I hope it flowers soon and does not stop until winter time. Last year it flowered in early summer then shut down during the heat of summer, to resume flowering in early fall.

Joseph

Here's Q0426 seedling, thanks Arlan!

Joseph

Dee, The Special Mix are still babies right now. I`ll post anything unusual for sure!

Here is Q0751 seedling, showing ever so slightly some leaf variegation.

And some cotyledon images of several others I started:

#1

#2

reference 5/12/2007 folder

#3

I think the cotyledons are neat.

My cat thinks they are yummy too and she will bite them right off. I have to start mine with a cage around it.

Anybody want to see a big flower? This purple came in a giant flower mix...no kidding!

Hey, the Silverbush Convolvulus cneorum is pretty neat. How does it multiply? Just curious.

And now for one more picture from this morning. This is a pink shibori.

Wait a minute...that is from yesterday. This is from this morning.

OMG Karen those JMGs are to die for!

Karen,
Your Purple is GIGANTIC and GORGEOUS.
And, Love your Shibori Blooms. Very Nice!

As I understand it you get new starts of the Silverbush Convolvulus cneorum from cuttings. I assume you can root them in water???? When mine gets planted in the ground and takes off I can play with it. I will try rootings in water, and also try to see if I can anchor a piece of the plant in the soil to see if it will root that way as well. This is entirely new to me, so I'm just now learning about it.

Emma

Karen,

Will you give the gigondo-purple JMG a Japanese style name since it came from a mix of seeds?

Joseph

I`ll probably keep calling these "Giant Mix" provided they come back this way though hand pollinating. Another bloom looks like it will be magenta and there are more to bloom in the next week or so. We had fun checking them out this morning.

Dee, that white flower is cool. I like the way the petals look turned. It`s very pretty!

For my picture today,this is a cross between a large flowered pink blizzard and a large flowered purple blizzard. Looks like purple is dominant in this cross and I know for sure because the pod parent was the pink flower. This one budded out almost violently and one morning we came out to see this:

This picture is same one further out.

Keep the new pictures coming!!!!

Really nice purple blizzard, Karen. I'm curious, what type of blizzard were the parents? Striped like the Tie Dyes or speckled like the resulting plants you shared....or both? It looks like your plant produces a consistent speckled pattern. - Arlan

Hi Arlan, It is nice to hear from you.

Speckled is a pattern more like the Shika Noko with little specks of color interspersed over the flower like speckles sprinkled on a cake. There are a number of blizzard patterns but I don`t know the names or classifications for them. I think I need to try doing some research.

This plant behaved differently than both parents. Neither parent budded up this quickly and profusely and then bloomed out so much as this one. I`m wondering if the growing conditions are better but I doubt it because I`m growing selfed seeds from both parents at the same time as this one in the same soil mix in the same size pots and they are behaving the same as last year.

I do not have any large flowered plants blooming yet....just other stuff! These were all taken yesterday.

This is a nice blue from a Kodachi mix...it is a creeper.

Karen, I used the incorrect terminology, and was not very clear in my question! I was referring to the blizzard pattern with "speckled" spots of white on the solid dark field as your flower is showing and not the speckled trait which has dark colored spots on a white or creamish background. Kyushu University has 4 Blizzard genes listed, three dominant and one recessive, but gives no distinction between them...just stating that they work together. I was wondering if the blizzard pattern of each the parents were the same or different.

I'm curious as to the make-up of the common striped blizzard patttern and the white spotted blizzard pattern.... are they separate genes or specific combinations. I really would like to know how to produce the white spotted type consistently!

The performance of your purple flowered F1 is interesting. I'm wondering if there is such a thing as hybrid vigor in JMGs also?! This may be what you are seeing...

Arlan

..this is a split flower from a plant of a system that should be carrying a few mutations...particularly maple-willow and duplicate. It has some beauty on its own merits.

Arlan, I really like the split petal flowers. This kind has my attention lately.

The best way to answer your question would be a picture. 1000 words in a 500x400 pixel square :)

It is possible the combination of genes make this perform as it does. This is the first flush and I`ll have to update if it shows changes as the vine matures.
The blizzard markings aren`t white. You can`t really see it in the pictures but the markings look blue in person. I suspect it is a lightening factor that makes it look blue.

This message was edited May 14, 2007 11:30 PM

Thanks Karen, that helps! It will be interesting to see if the F1 is a stable "snowstorm" blizzard or is variable like each of its parents.

Another thing I have been observing lately is that some flowers seem to have a yellowish cast to the throat and others are white. It looks like the pink blizzard parent has the yellowish throat...whereas the F1 has the white throat. I would imagine that the F2 might show the pink throat of the purple parent on a few plants.....and maybe the yellowish throat?

Arlan

Here is one pic from this morning:

Same pot, different angle:

syrumani, Thats very pretty. I like your idea of putting marigolds in the same pot with the chachamaru. It looks very nice.

Hey Arlan,I`m going to create a thread for the purple blizzard cross so the picture thread can run smooth.

I think this is very cool. New threads can be spawned from these picture threads and everything will be interesting and stay spontaneous.

I`d like to suggest for everyone who posts on the morning glory 2007 picture thread to make comments on the previous pictures and also post a new picture...but pleeze don`t hold back if you don`t have a picture yet!

Here is a purty one for today.



This message was edited May 15, 2007 11:41 AM

No blooms here yet but so far I have lusted over every one of these flowers!! ♥ Keep em coming!!!☺

I've got a "Picotee-less" Picotee Blue (no apparent white fringe markings) that's in the process of blooming in front of the time-lapse rig. It's been opening fairly slowly, but some of my previous Picotees have taken a long time to open their blooms too, so maybe it's to be expected. Looking pretty good so far, so I hope it keeps it up for the camera.

(CORRECTION: This flower does have some Picotee markings after all - just not much of it. There are tiny little dots of white at the very outer edges of the folds - as though the picotee marking is just slightly larger than the flower itself.)

Karen, Does that light blue have a name? Very pretty
Nice bloom Colderwild.
My blooms will be late this yr too. I'm still starting seeds

Nice flowers everyone..
A.

Believe it or not the light blue ruffly one was a open pollinated seed I planted. It came off a darker blue plant but it has bloomed a different color...now I wonder if it will come back? I`ll just tie the bloom and plant again and see. :)

Now for my picture for today. This flower makes a bright spot and to my eye it is red...but it does have orange inside the throat. I love it. It is Cardinal Climber.

Ipomoea sloteri is the other interesting hybrid in addition to the Youjiro...

I also see that as red...hopefully some of the people I gave the old strains of Scarlett O'Hara to will be getting some blooms and Anne X can get her spectrum analyzer out for those and we'll all get to see just which ones are 'really' red...

That one ipomoea sloteri does deserve the Cardinal climber nick name because it shows up a bright spot of red just like the little cardinal birds.

I have obtained some SOH seeds from several diferent sources.

Ron, One of these vines looks very promising. The seeds were in very good shape and now the plant is looking very much like the SOH I have known in the past. I`ll report back with results and where they came from if you have a secondary result thread in the future. I have to get going. bye/bye

Karen