Here is a very tiny miniature I found blooming in one of the cedar planters. I don't remember planting it but I must have! It is an inch or less across. I don't know it's name but a review of the package labels that I saved suggests it might be one called New Baby. Well New Baby was supposed to be in my hanging daff baskets but those turned out to be all Tete a Tete.
Tabasco, No, that's not Monticello -- could it be Las Vegas from a regular bulb company? For sure it isn't one from your original list.
Vossner, My apologies, yes it certainly could be Katie Heath!!
Pard, New Baby is a jonquil and your picture is a division 5. (Like showing the picture of a Martagon for a Trumpet) Perhaps someone made an unauthorized substitution on that New Baby, and I'm sure your supplier isn't the one who did it. They'll want to know. Plus you should get a refund on your New Baby, it is not the one pictured, and substituting Tete a tete is very common. More hectares are devoted to Tete a tete than any other daffodil, and it's worth less than any other bulb (no matter what the catalogs charge).
The photo is probably either Hawera or Fairy Chimes and guessing Hawera because it is 100x more common.
Neal, I have a collection of poets, but I've been selecting for small flowers/plants and early bloom. If you don't mind that they don't have a name, Dmail me to remind me to mark some big flowering/ later flowering kinds next week & I'll bring the bulbs/plants to the round up. The story behind these flowers is that they were a gift from a local Dr to his wife for their anniversary in 1940. This was way before CITES and they were purchased by the bushel for their "country home". In other words, they were wild collected bulbs. She must have planted out millions of daffodil bulbs over the years, and as wallaby/Janet has found, the poets, especially, self sow. Now a large section of the whole place is covered in poeticus daffodils with very little intermixing from other hybrids. There are some hybrids on the place, but no evidence of any of the seedlings carrying any admixture - they are all poets. The whole place smells good, but I wouldn't say they are fragrant. It smells good in a general way. I was able to go and dig with the specific purpose of getting smaller flower and plants for possibly getting color into the minature flowers. Daffodils take 7 years to bloom from seed here, so even knowing if I was partially successful will be a long while. I also sent seed to Australia and California where they can get daffodils to bloom from seed in 5 years to see if they could work any magic down there.
Some poet trivia: That lovely red rim you were admiring is how they got orange and red and pink color into the corona of standard daffodils. Before those crosses, daffodils were golden, lemon or white with only those colors in the corona and the perianth (Petals). It is highly concentrated color.
The poeticus has the most concentrated amount of beta carotene in that little, wire-thin red rim of any plant known. Scientists are looking for possible ways to get that beta cartene into food crops -- I think corn -- for developing nations, not breeding corn with a daffodil, but trying to find and separate the gene to splice it into corn. Something like that. It's genetic engineering BIG TIME.
And finally, poets as a group are more shade tolerant than most daffodils. Good thing too because they bloom so late. Of all the daffodils types, they are the ones who also prefer to be dug up and replanted just like a perennial. Most daffodils are A-ok with being hung in mesh bags in the garden shed, but poets don't want to get bone dry like the others.
Now you know everything I know,
Suzy
Thanks for all that info Illoquin! I love to hear these stories. Mine flowered the first time last year, the beds were done in 1999 the same year the drains were dug after many years, so that is 7 years. It could be the seed was laying dormant in the water drain, it wasn't getting a lot of water in it because the soil had built up too high.
Today there is another one open in the same place as the flat opening one, it is reflexed. Those in the hosta bed have bulked well in their time of growth, they probably get a little drier in the summer which must suit them.
Neal I had a whiff, they are sweetly scented and it is a nice scent, one which makes you want to keep taking another whiff, but you have to put your nose to it. A massed drift of them on a warm day might float around more! That one measures 2.5" across.
I did plant some poeticus about 2+ years ago, they only started to do something last year, they are recurved but I don't remember if the name said they were 'recurvus'. I love the recurved ones!
Strange, they must do both! I found a pic from last year of those in the hosta bed on 24th April, they are flat! The one to open this year went recurved from the start.
Thanks so much Suzy! Great info, and I've always wondered about the poet's use in breeding for cup color.
Janet, if I have to get on my knees I usually remain clueless as to the presence of fragrance, lol. While taking pics of those Tulip humilis I realized they are fragrant; would have had no idea if I had'nt been laying on the ground! I've been keeping a little vase of fragrant blooms on my nightstand (the best air freshener!) and have been thinking some poets would be nice.
Pipit is opening.
And Geranium is starting.
Neal,
Aren't you getting the freezing temperatures were all getting in the midwest? I'm surprised your flowers look so great....things here are dismal.
Suzy
These last pics were taken the day after the first night in the 20s, and strangely everything still was looking ok. It snowed last night and is 22F this morning, so I'd say everything will be lying flat when the sun comes up.
Oh, well, I was sure wondering! Maybe they won't be laying flat. Fingers crossed for both of us!
Suzy
I have no idea of the ID of this narcis, but I like the soft yellow colour.
bonitin, that looks very like Pipit to me. Mine has a nice fragrance, and the cups fade to nearly white.
Suzy, I had to laugh about your comments about hoping your daffs weren't lieing flat. I almost took a picture of my beautiful butterfly daffs that are laying on the ground and dieing. Of course with the title 'See my daffs! - Sniffle, cry'
I still have more daffs that hadn't opened yet and are in a holding patteren. So I will be able to enjoy those harbengers of Spring.
Most of my hyacinths did ok in the snow, but one beauty keeled over, so I picked the stems and they really perked up in the vase and filled the kitchen with their wonderful fragrance.
Here to pictures soon from the colder climates. :o)
toofew
Some new blooms are showing their sweet faces! Started a new thread:
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/715049/
This is 'Jubilee'. It opens that beautiful color, no waiting for it to change from yellow or greenish.
I just had to reply with some of mine. All of them look great everyone!! WHOO HOO this is great stuff!
I took this photo 10 minutes ago!
I was away in Vt for a few days and have come home to many new narcissus blooms. I took pictures this morning and most of these (except 4 or 5) are out now. My new favorite is an unnamed one from Buggy Crazy which is in the third row and the 3rd from the left. I still have many others that will open this week with the warming weather. I am really loving the little ones. Minnow, Jetfire, Hawera, Segovia. Patti
You have a wonderful collection Patti! I love that no id from Buggycrazy too. And by the way, I've got lots of Hollyhock seedlings up :)
gemini_sage, Thanks; All the bulbs I got from Buggycrazy are lovely and doing well. I bought another NOID from her that is a nice double, very uniform and with nice color, that she called popcorn. I will order more from her this year. With our colder spring weather, narcissus do very well here and last a long time. I am so happy about sending you viable HH seeds. Patti
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Another great collage, Patti! Wonderful collection.
I think I got that same N0-ID from buggy crazy! Very pretty flower!
Here is a new one for me called Double Narcissus, Rosy Cloud which I rather like. I wouldn't call it rosy, but more of a peachy buff. Patti
I love this one called Green Goose. Patti
This one is suppose to be Tazetta Narcissus 'Avalanche' , but I am not sure that it is. Any thoughts? I am going to watch it to see if it has the form as described "called 'Seventeen Sisters' in the past because of its 15-20 white petaled and demitasse-shaped cupped, sweetly fragrant flowers per stem" But I like it. I love the little guys. Patti
Tabasco, Thanks. I sent another order this week to Buggycrazy for next year. I ordered more 'Minnow' as it has been an amazing performer and so sweet, as well as some new ones for me. I ordered 'Fragrant Rose', 'Flower Drift', 'Obdam' ,'Martinette', 'Laurens Koster' , 'Juanita' and for the name alone, 'Misty Glen'. I also order more of her Roman Hyacinthus ('orientalis albulus') which we absolutly loved this spring. I planted a bunch of regular Hyacinthus and most of them were not my favorites. Just too big and bright, but the Roman one was just elegant with a lovely scent. I did like a white one, ('Carnegie') planted in a sea of blue scilla. Patti
Love that 'Avalanche', which does look like the pics in the catalogs. I really like that delicate Roman hyacinth too; I prefer that looser, more wilderflowery look. Got to check out buggycrazy's fall listings!
Gemini_sage, I took more pictures of 'Avalanche' yesterday and it is indeed correct. It has a wonderful form. My DH was particularly taken with it. I also have 'Simplex' opening which I think I am going to like. It has strange tubular, reed like (looks similar to thick chives) foliage. I still have 'Double Poet', 'New Baby', 'After All'. 'Erlicheer' and 'Yellow Cheerfulness' to bloom yet. I am hoping to add more of the little guys to my beds next year. Minnow bloomed its little head off and now we have lots of 'Hawera' blooming now as I managed on double ordering it. Not a problem as I like it. I really love one blooming now called 'Bahama Beach' for its very pale yellow color and delicate form which came from the Brent and Becky sale. Love those late fall sales. Patti
Here is Merlin. Photo taken a while ago, back in April.
Suzy
Young Love, Likewise taken in April
Suzy
'Notre Dame' with some others in the background. Taken in April.
Suzy
I love that Merlin, I will put on my wanted list.
Here is the latest collage. Patti
row 1 La Belle - Green Pearl (not very green) - Avalanche
row 2 Papillon Blanc - Intrigue - Bahama Beach (color is a nicer pale yellow)
row 3 Rosy Cloud - Jonquilla simplex - Green Goose
This is 'Spanish Fiesta' -- the brightest thing in my garden. Taken in April.
Suzy
Patti, If you put the pollen from La Belle onto N. jonquilla simplex and do the reverse cross -- put the pollen of N. jonquilla simplex onto La Belle, you will end up with something wonderful, I think. They are both N=12 diploids and their progeny will be fertile.
Suzy
Suzy, you have a wonderful collection . Notre Dame is another one for me to look for. As is Spanish Fiesta. I will take note of your suggestion, but I think I am years away from knowing how to breed plants.
I have a batch that need Id help
the first is a white that blooms late (now) I always thought it was Thalia, but I think that is wrong.
All of these are old ones planted in the early 80's in my yard. Patti
Another lost soul that bloomed last week. Patti
This one is very sweet. On the short side. Patti
Another one that I have no record of is this rather small one with nice color on it's frilled edge. Patti
I love the way the camera caught the flower petals texture on the last shot!! I've tried to take pictures of violets with that shimmer and have never been able to capture it.
Another one for this year's id search is an old favorite that I thought was Salome, but last year people posted that they thought otherwise. It was an one I bought years ago and it was advertised as a break through color in Narcissus. Patti
Another shot of some of this bunch of noid's. Patti
This group is I think?? MT Hood and ?? Maybe king Alfred. Planted in 1982. Patti
Suzy, Young Love is on my list and has just moved up! Gorgeous! And you were right, I do NEED Spanish Fiesta, but it seems like it isnt listed in the GM catalog this year.
Patti, that mass of noid pink is beautiful! That looks a lot like one I bought as Chromacolor, but I'm not sure if mine is correctly labeled (the catalog pics look a bit different).
You both have wonderful collections!
