What kind of JMG is this again?

Arlan, I got some that looked a lot like those with the blizzard and petals in the middle. I didn`t take pictures of everything but many of them. One of them was already torn being used to pollinate before I even thought of pictures. shucks I did get a few pods off the ones you saw on the web photo album too. I did self,back cross with a doubled picotee and outcross with another different cross. I got green pods I`m waiting on and a little handful of seeds to grow out next spring.

Next spring should be interesting as the new flowers bloom.

This one is yogiro x ukigumo

These got the blizzard gene of the ukigumo and the flowers range from spotted to almost white. I got the first pod from it today. I really look forward to next year.

This is the paler version on the same vine.

Gardener, The paler one looks like it couldn't make up it's mind as far as what
it wanted to be. I like it cause it's different.

Jackie

It is following the same patterns as the ukigumo. They begin with more color and you never know what will happen next.

The examples I shared really grabbed my attention also. I'm also hoping that these will show themselves in some fashion again next year when I can grow the seed form their parent in better conditions.

Since I moved onto this lot a year ago, I have not used any artificial fertilizer or fungicides or pesticides.....probably more to find out what I'm up against than anything else. I'm a transplant from the Pacific Northwest...near Vancouver, BC (but in the states!)..so am learning how to garden down here!

I did not have a rust problem during my regular season, it was just after I cleaned up the garden where the JMG's grew, and rototilled...that I had all these volunteers show up! I selected a few to grow in pots as a trial, and left the others, crowded as they were, to just grow, hoping to get a glimpse of a few blooms. By the time I realized that there were plants I would like seed from, I was left with tagging the selected plants and they were too large in my opinion to transplant. The very crowded conditions with little air circulation around the plants contributed heavily to the rust, I'm sure. I noticed at the same time that the wild Ipomoea hederacea plants got virtually destroyed by it as well....I understand that the pine trees are the off season vector for the rust, so there is probably little chance of eliminating the problem. Next year I will try the various suggestions as to preventative measures against the rust, particularly later in the season. Jackie, I'll research the neem and I believe Gardner suggested an Ortho product.

Gardner, I really like what you are doing with your crosses. One thing I keep reminding myself is that I really don't need that many seeds from the initial F1 crosses, but it is the seed from these F1 plants that hold the true redistribution of characteristics, hence require the real estate to grow them (the F2)! You are going to have a great time in the grow out of your F2's! Do you have acreage!? Looks like you may be able to help us learn more of the effects of blizzard too...

Arlan

You know which ones to cross in order to get interesting results so you still got one foot in front of the other for next year. It is good practice to plant each seedling about 6 inches or so apart from one another. Some of these need a lot more room than others. Full sun is a must for the large full blooms. The insect and disease control is troublesome much like roses. You have to stay after them or They Will get afflicted especially if you live in a hot,humid environment that is rainy much of the time. Then you need good drainage in the soil using sand and rocks like shown in the Japanese web sites. I go out in the woods behind the house and watchful of snakes I rake up some leaves under the hardwood trees especially if it is full of earthworms and rotted down into compost. The (Japanese morning glories) really love any kid of good compost worked in the soil. I also keep a pile where I throw any kind of appropriate trimmings from pruning ..not anything that might carry insects or disease or any invasive roots.

I have some plans made to dig up a spot where we used to have a bigger garden. We have a greenhouse on the way. I`ll probably be growing them in the greenhouse and in every corner and climbable space. :) It will look like a jungle!

I bought something that looked a lot like that last year. It was in a pot marked annual morning glories. I brought it home and separated it into several plants and put them in my deck boxes. I got beautiful flowers some were purple and white and some were blue and white. I collected the seed last year in the fall and stored them. I never got around to planting them this year and I still have them. The funny thing was that this year we replaced the old boxes with new ones and put in new soil too. Some how I ended up with a couple plants again this year. I never planted them and just don’t know where the seeds came from. The only thing I can think of is that we used the same wheelbarrow and tools to remove the old dirt from the old boxes and then after we dumped it on the compost pile we used the wheelbarrow and tools to mix the new dirt. It was such a great surprise. I’m going to try and plant my seeds next year I know they will be 2 years old by them but these seeds must be pretty determined to grow. Holly

i bought some kikiosaki (sp) ..supposed to be white..but it turned out odd....purple looks like a mutant of sorts....and the vine looks like an ivy. I have it in a pot and its still going good..but it will freeze in a few days if the frost threatens

pam

Thanks for the comments. This came in a mix of unknown seeds so it probably is some kind of mix and possibly a mix with different kinds of Japanese Morning Glory since Ron confirmed it was ipomoea nil. I`m going to keep growing it for a while to see if the characteristics are stable out of curiosity. I do love the leaves being heart shaped with splashed variegation much like ivy. Yes, ipomoea nils do reseed and come back on their own. I found another "speckly" in the garden that showed up out of nowhere. I guess it was a dropped seed. :)



This message was edited Oct 28, 2006 9:47 AM

This is a great thread - thanks all