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phuggins Fairmont, WV(Zone 6a) Jun 12, 2006

Something has been munching at my perennial garden...mostly the rudbeckias and echinaceas. I've sprayed several times with Liquid Fence to no avail. Based on the type of damage I suspect the local woodchuck is the culprit, although I also have rabbits and deer on the property. My dad suggested predator urine, but couldn't remember which type was best for woodchucks. I've also read that human pee works, so DH has been tinkling into a bottle for me the past couple of mornings. :) ("Never say I don't love you", he grumbled yesterday.) My questions are,

* How effective is human urine at varmint deterrence? (I realize that there is no one 100% effective method and that rotating methods works best.)
* Is there a type of predator urine that is more effective than another at repelling woodchucks?

Also, if the plant has been munched down to a stem and several leaves, is it possible the plant will 1) survive, 2) bloom this year?

Whee,
pam

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Equilibrium Jun 12, 2006

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* How effective is human urine at varmint deterrence?
Based on my limited experiences, I would say not all the effective. I tried it either last spring and fall or the spring and fall before. I had every kid peeing outside with glee. Wheeeeee. I reminded them to pee outside and even showed them exactly where I wanted them to whiz. Oh they were so excited. Somewhat distracted at times but very excited to be helping Mom. What can I say, I lost a few plants to urine and I lost even more plants to critters. It rains in these parts and evidently I needed to get the kids out there to do their thing right after the rains but our timing was never quite the best and their aim was even worse. I'd say forget it. Now I tell them to pee inside and I get a lot of, "But Mom, you used to want us to pee outside".

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Is there a type of predator urine that is more effective than another at repelling woodchucks?
Lucky you! Predator Pee is marketed- http://www.critterridders.com/predator_urine.htm
Nobody I know who has tried it thinks it works but there are lots of people out there who swear by the stuff. Look at the wide array of pee offerings at that site!

Depends on the plant that was munched if it will survive or not. Iuse tubes on plants that I want to protect around here. Others use exclusion fencing. Tubes and plants shelters and exclusion fencing work.

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fleursdefouquet Ferndale, AR(Zone 7b) Jun 12, 2006

Pam, I empathize! Go to my thread "Do you have a funny gardening story?" in the Garden Talk forum. I had my DH peeing in jars, too!
Debra

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joepyeweed Peoria, IL Jun 12, 2006

I've had some limited success with cayenne pepper. My success would be better if I would re-apply after every rainfall. But usually I forget or am too busy or "insert excuse here"... I buy the mega size generic container from the market supply store.

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hmstyl Cleveland, GA(Zone 7a) Jun 12, 2006

I was having trouble with the bunnies eating the peas in my garden. I started walking Max (our big American Bulldog) around inside the garden. He was really interested in the bunny smell at the fence near the freshly munched peas, and he would pee on the fence in that area. We didn't have any more bunnies eating peas.

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joepyeweed Peoria, IL Jun 13, 2006

It makes a good fertilizer if diluted... even if it doesn't keep the critters away.

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