Superthrive

Have any of you used Superthrive, if so how did you like it?

Paul

I haven't but have seen it at Home Depot and wondered about it myself. I would
like to know as well if anyone has used it and what they thought.

Angela

I think its mail order only, its also on Ebay/

No I saw some yesterday at Home Depot

Do a Forum Search (see the top of this page) for Superthrive. I am sure you will find many threads discussing Superthrive.

Folks here have lots of pros and cons about ST.

I am on the pro side as I have found it really helps with transplant shock. And yes, I did try some identical plants in identical locations with ST and without. The ones I used it on all survived and thrived some of those I didn't use it on didn't make it.
While visiting a well known wholesale/retail nursery that sells world wide I noticed they were soaking cuttings in it before sticking them. I figured if the pros were doing it perhaps I should look into it. I use it when transplanting, to soak cuttings and seeds and often if a pot drys out and the plant wilts badly, I add ST to the water and it revives well.

The label on the bottle is hokey and makes one think of snake oil but - I like it.

I found Superthrive at Walmart just this week.

Yes, that label really is hokey, but I bought it anyway! LOL

I'm wondering if I'm another sucker on the superthrive list?!?

Does anyone know anything about the man who invented it? I tried to google him but couldn't find anything conclusive....

Don't know anything about the inventor. However, recently I have seen several copy cat solutions manufactured by more reputable companies that are supposed to do the same thing(s). Of course, I can't remember where I saw these products right now. My senior moments are getting to be senior hours. LOL

WalMart has SuperThrive, I just bought a new bottle. ST is one of my fav products - that, and H202, 35%, food grade hydrogen peroxide...I use them together and more than all the other mountains of stuff I've bought, and they are the two cheapest products....

Sherry
What do you use the peroxide for?

I've been adding ST to my fertilized water - I feel that my plants seem to be happier, but it hasn't been that long - will let you know again in a week or so

The large specialty Japanese Maple nursery near me swears by SuperThrive, & I have to admit that I was really pleased with the results I got using it last year.

Super-Thrive is cheap and wonderful. Well a little bottle appears expensive but i used my first bottle for 18 months.

I use hydrogen peroxide for growth and vigor :

1 ounce 3% hydrogen peroxide to one quart water.

or

16 drops H202, 35% hydrogen peroxide to one quart water.

Use as a foiler spray or to water plants.

I also add a small amount of Super-Thrive. I use 35% and I find myself using it more all the time. It is good for seedlings and plants under stress. Good and cheap, but it isn't free.

I always transfer some ST from the large bottle to a small bottle with a dropper. Often I just use 1 drop of ST in a quart of water.

I thought I was seeing double and I was...I think Paulgrow has two threads going on Superthrive!

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/574156/

Paul-- did you find out what you wanted to know?

I use Hydrogen Peroxide to oxygenate my potting mixes from time to time. There are some plants, Tacca comes to mind, that like higher levels of oxygen.

Hey tobasco, interesting how threads can take different courses. Thanks for posting that other link.

Here's another perspective on SuperThrive-
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/560382/

Thanks to all of you for your input. This product certainly generated a lot of conversation,

Paul

Yeah, when I returned my "SuperThrive" back to the store I went to the pharmacy and bought a whole lot of H2O2.

*This* is why I love DG!!

;~)

mg

Hey MG, how be you?

Sherry, where are you finding the H202 in 35% ?

Hey corgimom, I think... not positive that you can go to Beauty Supply stores where they sell hair care products and pick up H²0² in 20%, 30%, and possibly even 40% volume. There are also "natural treatments for ulcers out there allegedly available on line that are considerably higher but I have no idea how to get your hands on those. The cost is up there for the higher volume H²0² when purchased from beauty supply stores. For .33¢ a bottle of 3% H²0², I just go to WalMart and add a cup per gallon of water.

So, approximately 2 oz or 1/4 cup per quart? Is this all purpose or just when you're potting up plants? I've been trying to follow this over 2 or 3 different threads and I wrote down somewhere a recipe for watering as 1 cap of Maxicrop, 2 to 3 drops Superthrive and 1 to 2 Tblsp of Peroxide. At least I think it was for watering; maybe watering seedlings. Gee, I hope this isn't one of those cases where a little knowledge can turn deadly.

beaker,

About watering seedlings---

Your recipe sounds about right for H2O2, but I think you're a little heavy on the Superthrive...(according to the reading I've been doing).

I don't know what Maxicrop is, but I bet it has much of the same stuff as Superthrive, too.

According to some of the stuff I've read, yes, it's true, you just need tiny amounts of the growth hormones ('secret ingredients (?) in Superthrive) and the plant growth hormones lose effectiveness when plantlings are 'overdosed'...

With all the interest in that and peroxide, later this spring we should have some good scientific results to share (to build on Equi's research and data base!)

I generally use 1 drop of ST per quart. That might be a little heavy according to the directions but I have not had any problems. I have read that many folks use 1/2 tsp. per gallon successfully. It may have been the the tropical gardeners with the heavy hands involving ST; tropicals are such heavy feeders.

Messenger, a highly touted fertilizer here on DG, contains "harpin hormones" which are supposed to be magic for plants; I suspect this is similar to ST. And, how about "Spray N Grow"; that can be combined with fertilizer for the best effect. What do you think is in that stuff?

35% hydrogen peroxide, food grade, is cheaper in the long run than the 3% hydrogen peroxide. I use so much of it that I use the 35% which I had to order.

For house & garden plants, for growth and vigo:

1 ounce of 3% hydrogen peroxide to 1 quart of water

16 drops of 35% H202 hydrogen peroxide to 1 quart water.

I use it for a mist and to water, along with Super-Thrive. And, I frequently use Micro Mix, a nutriment, also. I order the 35% on line at Guardian of Eden.

I'm going to have to spend an afternoon reading all these threads again. Now Messenger, whatever that is. Too much for my old brain. Seems like everyone agrees about the peroxide as being a good thing though. So, can the H2O2 be purchased in larger quatities. Seems like one of thos little bottles you get at the drug store won't go very far.

I think Hydroponics and Hot Tub supply stores have large containers of H2O2. Also chemical supply companies stock it by the 55 gallon drum. (if you really get going with it!)

http://www.dfwx.com/hyperoxideorder.htm

Depends on the plant beaker. Some plants don't thrive in high oxygen levels but according to what I have read ¼C of the readily available 3% H²0² would be correct. You have to experiment a little bit and try not to be too afraid of killing a few plants. It happens. And yes, it's been my experience a little knowledge can be deadly. Lord knows I've killed my fair share with my little kitchen and backyard experiments. I swear, there are days when I just stand back and wonder, "Why'd I do that". My husband refers to it as out of body experiences.

Messenger has no fertilizer in it at all and once you open one of their small foil pkgs it should be used within 3 weeks and what is mixed should be used within 3 hours. It is misted on, NOT drenched.
Spray n Grow doesn't want you to have fertilized in 2 or 3 days. It has to be used in 3 hours after mixed and can have their own "Bill's Fertilizer", (a fish emulsion type) mixed with it when applying. They ask you put 2 days between applications of SnG and Messenger. Spray on till drenched. I also add 1/2 teaspoon baking soda to this as they suggest.
Superthrive is so inexpensive when you use as directed that I can't imagine anyone thinking iit's high. It calculates to 65% of one penny per gallon. More is not better from what I've read.
I use all 3 and Hydrogen Peroxide at 1/2cup to 1 gallon water.
I have a picture of my triangle last spring, treated with Messenger and Spray n Grow.
Those petunias were loaded for 3 months. Not too shabby, huh?
Sidney

Here is a Nasturstrum leaf from last spring; It was about 4" across and very tasty!
Sidney

One more of the two foot pot the 'Nasties' were planted in. Spray n Grow, Bill's Fertilizer and a Messenger treatment along with regular watering really made them POP!!!
Sidney

so..you use Hydrogen peroxide in addition to your regular fertilizing routine..hmmm I am willing to throw some into the water with the other two. I used a fertilizer [specific to plant] plus superthrive. I am understanding that by adding the H2O2, it shouldn't hurt the plants, but help in making them sing a little louder?

I don't believe Hydrogen peroxide is a fertilizer--it just 'oxygenates' the roots. You can add it to your watering anytime your plants might need a little pick me up.

I soaked my amaryllis bulbs in an HP/water solution before I planted them and they really 'popped' quickly.

sugarweed-- love your perfect pretty petunias!

You got it tobasco! Lots of products, it seems, are sometimes better in one zone/area than another. I pay more attn to what people in zone 8a down use, than zone 7 up, if that makes sense. And, with lots of the name, high dollar stuff, I can tell no more difference when I use a fert that cost big bucks and the one that is cheapest on the shelf...OTOH, I never use any of the same stuff, so who knows, lol!!

Oooooooh, Sidney, your plants are b-u-tee-full, so pretty and healthy!!!

Well, I'm really aggrivated. It's 80º I was about to put this year's petunias out and the blasted crud they were in from the nursery is so dry I could just spit!!!
I took a plastic meat tub that 1kg comes in put some coco soak and warm water and 1 or 2 drops of superthrive in. I left the 4" poots of petunias floating in there.
Why, pray tell do the nurseries insist on using this once dry, never penatrible stuff to sell us plants in? I have auto sprinklers so everything has been watered everyday, sometimes twice.
I just came in and some are still floating after 30 minutes. Earlier this week I had to take some plants out of their plastic pots to get them wet again. I think I'll go out with my little brown bottle and give that water 2 glugs.
Sherry I just wanted to show what I know to be working in my garden.
I know one day last summer DN and I did 1 scoop Naturize, 1 drop ST and 1gal water on each Brug. They all bloomed that were in the sun. The rest just looked real healthy.
Sidney

Awww, let me play the little violin for you... you're aggravated and it's 80° by you. Oh my heart bleeds for you. I think our high for the day was 3° and tonight we're supposed to drop down to -17° again. I'd need a chisel if I wanted to do any work outside right about now.

Sidney: Darling Neighbor (hubba hubba), darling ninja, darling ??, or is it dumb?? Sid, it irks me too about the watering habits of some places, drown or dry to kill, so irritating. However, some of the plant growers are using that black ?? with the moisture stuff that is amazing. They look dead, but they end up okay. I cannot remember if you've mentioned using it, but I learned last season that I should not have poo pooed the stuff and wish I had used it the first year it arrived. I will be using it this year on everything...good luck, you are going to have our upper zonies sticking pins in a Sidney doll with your temp reports, lol.

Oh my, the craft of voodoo. Now there's an idea for another thread where people have been making distasteful reports!