One of my Favorite Plants Training An Episcia 'Cygnet'

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

An Episcia 'Cygnet'. Gesneriacede and all who have or would like one .it's a treasure.( The one I grow is Alsobia Cygnet and I have also grown Iris Angel)

I bought a very small one on Ebay, I just about lost it had a tiny 1/8 piece of a stringy stolen and I nursed it ! Now I have a big plant and was also able to share
with dozens of friends. " Sold a lot also ) All from one little plant.
This is from the book ;
Plant that really Bloom Indoors
By George and Virginie Elbert
When we first saw 'Cygnet' growing in a basket and hanging down in a rather disorderly way. But the flowers were pretty and larger than most Episcias. The nurseryman disparaged it as having a poor habit. We bought it, nevertheless, and over the years have learned to handle it so that it remains as neat as you could wish and never stops blooming !! In our opinion it is the easiest to grow and train of all the Episcias..
The only objection is that the foliage is rather plain.
The flower is over an inch across, white, beautifully fringed, the throat dotted with purple. Flowers last two or three days at the most but the production of bloom per inch of stem over a long period is tremendous.
Episcia 'Cygnet' is a hybrid of two white flowered species which are not at all easy to bloom. It has hairy gray-green foliage, scalloped along the edges and tapering to a long petiole. The cause of it's bad habit is the productions of quantities of stolons ( suckers), which if allowed to grow, extend like rope down the side of pot or basket and then produce rosettes and flowers at the tips. All Episcias have this tendency, but in some at least the center stem is thick and sturdy.
' Cygnet' requires special training for flower production.
Since the Episcia is sterile, you must start with a plant. Pot it up with rich mix and keep very moist. ( I have mine 'Cygnet' pot sitting in a 6 inch flower pot saucer and in is under gro-light and natural light too !Mine is wicked and always has a small amount of plant food Eleanor's VF-11 in the saucer --- Allison)
It is more tolerant of real wetness than other Episcias. Feed regularly with balanced fertilizer. In the city window it requires an east or west situation; in the country it will do well with reflected light. Flowering depends on the number of successive cloudy days. But placed four or five inches below fluorescent tubes and given a 16 hour day, it will bloom continuously. high HUMIDITY IS BENEFICIAL BUT NOT A REQUIREMENT. the TEMPERATURE SHOULD ALWAYS BE OVER SIXTY-FIVE DEGREES f. ours HAVE NEVER BEEN BOTHERED BY PESTS.
As the plant grows, snip off all stolons at the base. The tips with their leafy rosettes can be propagated in moist vermiculite. While the plant is small -no more than two inches high- you will have months of blooms, with two flowers at a time that are really outsize in proportion. Gradually it will outgrow the pot, and in larger quarters will put up more rosettes. Keep trimming those stollons. After a goodly while you may have a five- or six inch pot mounded with stems and leaves no more than 3 inches high and all blooming. Single stems can then be removed for very rapid progation and quick blooming. In this way your plant will always be neat and flowering.
E. 'Cygnet' makes a splendid terrarium plant using the single stems in two inch pots.
This is an outstanding example of the way we can train plants accoding to our needs. Of course the plant itself must be amenable ' Cygnet' is very obliging. It's a treasure.
Allison





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in Houston, TX(Zone 9a)

Allison,
Your Angel Episcia is very lucky to have it own Angel watching over it or it wouldn't have survived. Congratulations on your beautiful plant. :0)
Patti

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

Thank you Patti :))
Allison

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Silver Spring, MD

Alsolutly beautiful

Nanna

Frederick, MD(Zone 6b)

Gorgeous! Thanks for the how-to. I have seen some messy lookings ones... now I know how to avoid that!

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

She has been fun to grow and have and share :))
Allison

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

begoniacrazii
Here is info I got out of one of my favorite books. I have enjoyed this plant . Your plant looks really nice and can grow big and bloom all the time for you also :)) Good Luck ! Allison

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

This is one plant I will have a lot to share. It's one of my favorites and easy to grow :))
I know I will have at least 12 plants one put aside for MsC

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Northern California, CA(Zone 9a)

My alsobia has such tiny leaves compared to yours. I'll have to send you one.

The Heart of Texas, TX(Zone 8b)

Thanks Allison,
I can't wait to try NOT to kill that one..lol

Since you wick water yours, would it also like a self watering pot?? I seem to do pretty good with the self watering pots and they have really cut down on my killing plants.

MsC

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

Begonia put it in a small pot , cut all stragly pieces off , any stolens take off , put under light. My plant above " bought a very small one on Ebay, I just about lost it had a tiny 1/8 piece of a stringy stolen and I nursed it ! Now I have a big plant and was also able to share
with dozens of friends."
Now two years from them I have grown hundreds of plants from the first plant :)) I can send you a big blooming plant in Spring I will have a lot of them !!! Follow directions in my top posting so easy. It's a real treasure .

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

Oh I wick smaller ones and ones in Pan Pots, but not the 12 inch pot. Mine had tiny leaves when I got it and the new babies do but the frow fast and I grow it neat and compact, yet it gets large and pot full if tained correctly. I have two in full 6 Inch pan pots now in bloom all the time. Took a dozen babies off one last night they grow so fast they get away from me. lol Some of the babies were so big they went into 4 " Azelas pots with no roots of coruse. They will rott in a week or less and feow fast. They like lots of food and light :))

Northern California, CA(Zone 9a)

I'm hoping to get a visit in when I come to FL in March (actually around 2/28 -3/5 or so)
Assuming I can get away and assuming you feel up to visitors we can try and get together.

While in Miami, I'll be on the begonia hunt but I'm trying to locate AV nurseries or growers to visit too. (any suggestions?)

If we can hook up, perhaps you can give it to me in person.

Mine is in a self watering pot, but now I think I'll change the soil. When I potted it up, I wasn't paying attention to the soil much and now I believe it may have too much peat in the mix.

What do you think. It keeps pretty moist. Moisture meter reads.... (hold on, have to go take a reading....) yikes, it pegged out to soggy, now I know I need to change the soil. It's been languishing in that pot for about 5-6 weeks. I'm lucky its alive.

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Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

Oh PS the smaller plants, younger ones have small leaves . But I train all mine to be neat and by soing this they will bloom all the time also.

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

Begonia that is the same plant you have about 9 babies in the big pot.
If you were to put each baby into a small pot about 2 icn to start. Keep taking babies off as they grow. the plant leaves will grow and pot will fill up. My 12 inch pot is from one plant branch. ( not a lot of babies in one pot) . Like a trailer. Not a bunch of different plants. Move then plant up to next size pot as it grows. The baby above is in a 2 inch pot maybe 2.25 .It does like larger pots as it grows , When put in next size pot only when tight it will shoot out more babies for more plants to share, not until plant is large and full then let babies grow down the sides, Grown and trained properly the babies growing down the side will grow into nice plant sizes and they will bloom all the time with the mom Your plant is the same as mine and my babies look like yours . I have dozens of them growing ( but each in its own little pot) but the way I grow them they grow into uniform plants in no time. They way yours is will always grow stragly and won't bloom much and become uncontrable and messing. Or die. The pot is too large.

Northern California, CA(Zone 9a)

OH MY GOSH, I took all those babies out of 2" pots to put them in this pot! LOL, I'll put them right back. (big giggle over that!)
See, this is why I love this site! Back they go to their 2" pots.

When I got this plant, the mother was lovely, like 2' long and lush. a big hanging plant in full bloom. (from Florida too!)

Not sure if we do have the same plant. The mom never had any bigger leaves than these. Not big like yours. Perhaps same genus, different sp. or different cultivars.??? I don't know for sure.

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

Their both Alsobias yours looks exactly like my babies but my plant was smaller when i got it.( It was the size of one your babies) I had Iris Angel sold her in 6 inch hanging pot and sold mom. Pot them small follow my post up top i promice each plant will grow large and bloom crazy. Oh the baby does not need roots to pot in its owo pot, push baby all the way to touch soil . water light warn follow above

Iris Angel

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Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

Iris Angel 6 inch pot was larger ,lots of babies and buds and flowers when i sold it

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Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

Oh Beg I have an Irish Paradise growing for you ,

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Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

I fount that on internt FC does not say wavy leaves mine does not its like FC

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Northern California, CA(Zone 9a)

oh my on the Irish Paradise. what a beauty. Getting sleepy..I'll chat some more tomorrow....

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

OH YES SLEEPY me too lol I have Irish Paradise ,Irish Flirt.
,Irish Angel for you maybe more ,Irish
I'll chat some more tomorrow

The Heart of Texas, TX(Zone 8b)

Irish Paradise is gorgeous!
I've never seen that one .. you have some of the most interesting violets Allison!


MsC

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

I think it's pretty rare to find. I bought a plant a couple years ago. Grew many sold some gave some away. I think this is my last but it may give me two or more babies. One for Begonia if I get a second it's for you MsC.. I'm working on my list it's large going to take a week or so. And I am going to work on using trade tracker. My list will be for USA shipping only ( Sorry) and it will be for trade/ or for shipping and handling..
I wish I could ship some to you now MsC your White Madnna is blooming. Spring hurry up :))
Allison

Northern California, CA(Zone 9a)

Yesterday, when I sprayed all the new babies with neem, I removed the three flowers that my Irish Kiss had... sad, but they looked funky - a bit brown in the center like they were just about finished or some rot starting. Didn't want to take chances so I 'kissed' them and thanked them for their lovely green edges and then 'clip' they were gone.

Spraying the neem sure 'brightened' everyone up.

Going to repot all the alsobia babies today. I feel like such a plant dork, i gave them exactly the environment they DIDN'T want..... sheesh...

Long Island, NY(Zone 6b)

I had a nice episcia plant but had such problems with it's trailers taking over. I love the way yours is nice and compact Allison. I really don't know what happened to the one I had, it suddenly started wilting and died on me :(

I'll have to try it again in the future. I have a beautiful Grow Cart/Light Stand on my Christmas list - I'm hoping that my family all chip in for it!! Then I'll have lot's of room for more 'children'!!

Anita

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

Their really easy to grow just follow few steps :)) Don't worry Begoina your doing great. Pot them up , I even wick mine. Give them lots of light close, and they do like foor and more moise cygnets do. You will be surprised the way the babies grow !!

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

Laurie how did you Cygnet's do ?
I have Albosia Cygnets for anyone who want's them . They grow like weeds. :))
Allison

Northern California, CA(Zone 9a)

Well, I'm a bit confused if Cygnet is what they are called so help me out. They are labeled alsobia danthiflora not Cygnet, is cygnet the species - I'm so uneducated on these - They're episcias right?

Well, I repotted them into solo cups with a very light mix, not the heavy peat in a self watering pot they were in. (scroll up and you'll see them in their pot on Dec 18)

Here they are today in their new pots and they seem to be thriving!

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Northern California, CA(Zone 9a)

A close up

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DC metro, VA(Zone 7b)

alsobia dianthiflora used to be classified in the episcia genus. Cygnet is the name of a particular cultivar, so to be precise, Alsobia dianthiflora 'Cygnet'. Not that the gesneriad people are too precise about naming. unfortunately.

episcias and alsobia info: http://gesneriads.ca/genepis.htm

Northern California, CA(Zone 9a)

Mine never get the leaves yours does so I think they're different. When I bought mine, it was like 2' long and blooming it's head off, in a 5" hanging basket. I saw the adventitious roots so I took some cuttings right away and potted them up in the green house, they seemed to love the humidity.

Went away for a few days on vacation and it didn't get watered (should have hung it in the ghse which has an automatic watering system.!!)
So these are the survivors.

When I transplanted, there was one stem with just a bit of a live section at the end, the rest had dried up so I trimmed it an thought 'what the heck' and burried it up to the leaves - which wasn't deep since it's only 1/2 inch anyway - into the 'magic' perlite tray I use and after about 3 weeks it decided to sprout these roots. So I just whisper sweet things to it each day and it decided to grow for me!!

Here's the baby, when it gets a few more roots and the ones it has get a bit bigger, I'll pot it up.

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DC metro, VA(Zone 7b)

oops, I lied. Cygnet is a primary hybrid of dianthiflora and punctata. http://gesneriads.ca/alsobi2.htm

Northern California, CA(Zone 9a)

Ahh Grasshopper, well, mine wasn't labled as that cultivar, so I'm wondering if it is a bit different. The leaves only get to about 1" max. the flowers are maybe 1 to 1 1/2 inch, not those monsters Ali shows us on her beauties.

Oh and Key, have I got a bloom to show you, I'm so proud,even though I didn't cultivate the bloom myself, I just sit and stare at it in amazement!
Lookie!

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Northern California, CA(Zone 9a)

This was one of the Chirita that I got from Bluebird on the 11th. Here it is - pre bloom.

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DC metro, VA(Zone 7b)

oooh wow. good luck with the chiritas - I find them difficult so I'm in the middle of trying to grow them again.

Northern California, CA(Zone 9a)

So far so good here, I'm being very careful not to overwater my new plants. I did that to some of Ali's and some from D&P bargains. The two chirita from D&P are doing great too. One was something like longifolia x latifolia? I have to go look it up, can't seem to access my hard drive (brain) at the moment. Have begonia on the brain right now.
You can see it at the end of this row in the lime green pot.

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Palm Bay, FL(Zone 9b)

wow this is exciting guys....thanks to everyone...bob

Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

Laurie your's is an Alsobias too ! ( but same family one of the parents of mine ! ) is different but will grow the same. You have done a good job with them. Give them lots of close light, mine almost touch. 14-16 hours a day is great. When I got mine it was a 1/4 inch or so string. I wanted it so bad I babied it, first one took a long time which now I've had one plant and hundreds of plants to give away.( it stayed small like yours for a good 6-8 months until Spring) It also likes food. and can stand and enjoys being a little more moist. I've had Iris Angel also grew it to a full 6 inch pot and some babies and gave them away. Mine also has a lot of small leaves and the babies begin real small like yours. Mine root and grow pretty fast with warmth, lots of light and food.
Yours are doing and looking great ! They are and will grow much better now but should get more roots. If you can give them a boost of warth, light and food. They like humidity but not a must.
They were registered in the 1960's as Epsicas now changed. But I feel they still grow a lot like them.
Your Chirita is beautiful ! I have five of them now ! And hoping for more and more room lol . Did you transplant yours ? Last night I took C. Stardust ( I think I got name correct lol) and took almost all the
heavy thick soil off and wicked new pot and new soil and cut six leaves off to put down ! I still have to do two others. My C S Hisako ( SP ?) is in a 5 inch pan pot and 20 inches across. It's my favorite always blooming . It's foliage is so wonderful It's great without blooms ! So you have this one if not I have one for you ! I have one for you too Keyring !
I'm realy enjoying them and the ease and fun of growing them ! Just need another stand for these beautiful creatures :))

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Dunedin, FL(Zone 10b)

67094 1967 Alsobia (reg. as Episcia) 'Cygnet' E. dianthiflora x E. punctata R. E. Lee


62025 1962 Alsobia (reg. as Episcia) 'Frills' E. punctata mutant P. Schulz

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