Bubberling again

Last year I said never again I was quitting Brugs, weeeeell I have my plant room full ,and I have a bubbeler going, DON'T ask me why, I am just Brug crazy, but I thought I would show you my setup, I purchased a large plastic shirt box for storing, then I bought a small shelf to sit over the top with large enough holes so I could put each cutting into a seperate hole, keeps them from getting crowded, I did have it in my plant room but the water got too warm so it is now in my guest bedroom, so kell, if you come over you will have to share with the cuttings

That is such a good idea...lolol....and I know what you mean about brugs...my backyard was full this summer and worried all the time how I was going to winter over all these beauties..so what do I have inside?.....a whole bucket full of cuttings that have to be organized..the back yard brugs are stuffed in the breezeway....
We still are having wonderful weather where we should already have our first snow..crossing my fingers since I still have about 10 pots outside...thanks for showing your new invention...Judy

That is a great idea, just may try it. Looks easy enough to sit up.

What a great tray thingey you got for the top. It is perfect for that!! You will never give up brugs Doris. You are brugsmitten! LOL

That IS a GREAT idea,I have all little jam and larger mason jars sitting around..your setup looks alot neater....where did you get a shelf like that ?
Brigitte

I got the shelf at Wall-Mart $2,95 I had to cut about 2" off the legs but works great for keeping the cuttings upright. The plastic container was from Dollar general store $2

From what I have read , I thought you were suposed to keep different Brugs seperated . Something about Viruses and disases in the sap .

what is that square looking box in the right hand corner is that a pump or something?
i love your idea and i will be making me one thxs so much for sharing
moretz

moretz, yes that is my pump connected to a bubbler

ok for us that dont understand(like me) lol could you explain? is it like from a fish tank? plmk and thxs

fThat is a great idea on the set up. I will have to copy it. OK?

Actually Tony you are right. I never mix them. If you have a virus, it will be transferred to all in the same water. But a lot do anyway. I think you are not so careful till you have some of your very own crosses that can't be gotten again or until a friend has lost so many out of their collection that it shakes you up!

A lot of people have no problem for they are virus free. This last year so many more people had SB though, kind of scary!

So funny, I have the same setup. I first started out using the bottom plastic container without the shelf then one day I was in Walmart and saw the shelf and thought I would give it a try. I was having to tape all my cuttings to the container. I had a few cuttings that were to big for the openings so had to cut a couple of them larger. I didn't have to make the legs shorter, but all you would have to do is not to install the legs at all just set the shelf on top of your container. I have 4 bubblers in mine. I have found out the bubblers are more quiet in a plastic container then in glass.

you are right it is like mine, great minds think alike, I had to cut about four of the holes in mine also, I must admit though that I don't care much for the water method, I am actually thinking about just planting mine.

I'm not so sure about using bubblers either. But I do have some good water roots, and some nice looking leaves on a few of them. I have been thinking about potting up some as well and putting them in the greenhouse.

So, do you get a better root system going in water? And the bubbler helps do this?

Do they root faster in water than if you just pot the cuttings in potting soil?
Just a million questions until I get my first blooming brug. LOL


Crystal

Ditto on your questions Crystal. Inquiring minds want to know. Oh dear, I'm feeling another addiction coming on! LOL

Neal.

Neal ..me too.I have received Monika's book today and it is VERY nice,VERY informative,
Brigitte

How are you guys going to get your rootings outta the bubbler, mine get big roots on the bottom and they leaf out like 2pug's. I like short cuttings for the bubbler, I like them fat too, and of course lots of favs are always greenies. Attached is one of my inside setups, three different brugs, each in it's own clear bubbler, not time to start them in the GH, here, until probably (I hope) another month. Last year, I put all my cuttings together, in a big container or several big containers, but this year I will not, only cuttings from the same brug to each container. Worked just fine for me, and i had no diseased brugs, but I really like smaller container and clear containers anyway. I had bubbler trouble over the weekend, some bad bubbler stones, but they were new and crumbled. I also do not use bubbler stones twice or move them from bubbler to bubbler, they are cheap, 2 for a dollar, and there's no need to take a chance. The three cuttings are special, to me. From left to right, Tuffy, sent by Vee8, with her own hummer, thanks again Vee. The next two, Shredded White, with lots of roots, and Coral Glow, sent by pal Jeanette, thanks Jnette. Did you notice the long ORANGE tag on Coral Glow - I'm thinking Jeanette expects this cutting to be ORANGE!! I love the tag and do not intend to remove it and have decided it's a great way to tag brugs, I'm going to see if the writing fades. My grand made the bird below the hummer, butterflies and brugs would have some company. Oh, I put a drop of H202 and a drop os SuperThrive in the bubblers and this year will add to that weekly and possibly tweak further as the bubbler season sets in, lol, but true!! BTW, my digi has a date problem, of course it's not December yet...sorry about that...

If I can't get the cuttings out because the roots are so big, I will just cut up the shelf until I can, I don't remember what I paid for it but it really wasn't that much.

Some of mine are green but I am finding out I don't have real good success with green cuttings. I do much better with the hard wood.

what is a bubbler STONE that you only use twice, I use the long blue type they use in fish tanks, can be used over and over it simply spreads the bubbles along the bottom of container, I would rather pot them up but I run out of space

The individual bubbler stones are about an inch long and tubular in shape. I found mine in WalMart right next to the one you pictured. Currently I am trying to find a container to fit that bubbler!!
I am using those clear water bottles.. 16 oz, I believe. I just take the top off and use the splitter to add another line and stone to that bottle. They are small enough to house individual cuttings, so as not to spread any virus that might be lurking, but perfect to fit side by side in a rectangular hard plastic box. Sorry, I'm at work and can't show you my setup.

Barb

I have some of those Doris which I'm going to use in my larger bubblers. I use the short ones about a inch or so long, in individual bubblers. I'm doing individual bubblers this year, all cuttings from one brug will have their own, private, 'hot tub' aka for individual bubblers. I also do not use the bubblers stones twice - at the end of this bubbler season, if you leave your stones bubblering all that time, you will notice, if you don't use H202 that the stone is 'dirty' appearing (not all do that, but most heavy used ones do) and if you do use H202, your bubbler stones might crumble, I always keep a supply of the little bubbler stones.

Barb, here is one of my setups for some cuttings, from seedlings that have not bloomed yet, sent to me by Mary Heik - they were damaged in Katrina and Mary lost her GH, and sent them to Arky for the winter. Notice each with the same color band, is in the container with only that color. Susanne is the daddy for all three, who are: L'Amour, Creamsickle & Tiara. The all began rooting the day they went into the bubbler, much more quickly than I wanted, they were all rooting within a few days and I removed them last Sunday into individual pots and they are adjusting nicely, but the weather is tricky, cold, then HOT!!! BTW, the 'open' light is RED and we are hoping they all notice that RED is our fave color...

This is a photo of them starting to root, after receiving H202 and SuperThrive, the H202 seems to pull the roots out of them, it is amazing!!! My Coral Glow was greener and slower to root, but it did root.......

Sherry, that is outstanding! I noticed your tubing is much larger than mine. Where do you get it? Do you need a reducer to attach the stones? The tubing I have slips right on the black part of the bubbler. Also, before I forget to ask you AGAIN..... where do you find your 35% H2O2? I was going to go back through the threads and try to find where you'd mentioned it before, but time is not my friend these days!

Barb

DUH!!! I meant to say I thought the surveyor's tape was a kewl idea! OldTimers.... sheesh..

This message was edited Nov 8, 2005 1:30 PM

The first photo I sent to this thread (Monday 11/07/05) was Tuffy's first day in the bubbler, Vee8, sent Tuffy to me and I hope she reads this thread to see that Tuffy is rooted, she LOVES Arky, lol!!! I saw a root yesterday but my digi doesn't make good closeups, especially at night. I was right about the root, and she has four that can be clearly viewed here, along with her toothpick to keep her off the bottom. Funny thing, her first three roots are not in the water, she reclined over night, but it's obvious they enjoy the new digs...she is cute Vee, we love her...

OH DEAR! this is my first year trying to root and they are all rotting-the skin peals off and the rot is in the center of the stem, too. Should I cut the stuff off? I have 2 cuttings each in 7 clear vases and I have been changing water daily (smelly). No bubblers. No roots yet. HELP!

Try using distilled water instead of tap. I read the other day it is better. I don't know for sure. I just got some distilled water Monday and got mind all changed over. So maybe in a few weeks I will know for sure if it works.

Whenever mine rots I always cut off and stick it back in the water in hopes it will root. But I'm no expert either.

I've never rooted anything in my life until I found the bubbler...I've only had one rot in the bubbler, but it was summertime bubbling, which is nothing like fall/winter/spring bubbling and the cutting was very green, and, of course, special. Put a toothpick in the end of it to keep it off the bottom...

Where do I get a bubbler? I will try the toothpick and cut the bottoms off.

Check 'classic forums' for bubbler, good luck!!

Would a cheap airfilter for a fish tank with something on the end of it that bubbles work?

Lavina

boojum,
this is my first year also to root some cuttings and I find I have better luck with hard or semihard cuttings rather than the thinner greener ones.

Most of mine are doing well whereas others I have to keep trimming back and lost a few ,not many but a few,one turning to mush.

I have them in clear jelly or masonjars,changing the water daily.
But I think I KNOW now WHAT I did wrong is that I tried to keep them warm instead of cool.I use cold water from our well.
You only keep cuttings in soil warm,
Brigitte

LavinaMae, I use the bubbler you buy at Wal-Mart they have three different sizes mine was $2.75
If you have a water softner let the water set overnight befor putting the plants in, or watering. I also got my H2o2 from Wal-Mart in the medicine isle

I'm in crunch time here. LOL Weather has been gorgeous for so long now that I've almost forgotten that winter is on the way. I gotta get stuff in and cuttings taken. This is a great thread. Please, someone tell me the rate for the H2o2?

Hi Brinda, good to see you!!! If using a liter container, I used one or two drops of H202, 35%, food grade hydrogen peroxide, and one or two drops of SuperThrive. Be sure to use a sterile dropper and use the H202 first, followed by the SuperThrive, then bubble away, it's bubbler season and they are rooting quicker than I can get them potted up. Good luck!!!

I am trying the damp spagnum moss and plastic roll up technique instead of water now. I read about it at a brug society site from the classics forum. (Thanks, Sherrylike!) I'll let you know how it goes. When I checked on them tonight they looked happy and smelled better.

You are in the magic zone 5a, boo, you should do great, lots of famous hybridizers in your zone...

Barb, I'm so sorry I didn't answer your question. I got my H202 at this site:

http://www.dfwx.com/h2o2.htm

I bought a gallon and I've had it about a year and I have used approximately 1/2 of one bottle and I think I have six bottles. I would think you could find it locally in Huntsville, I had to order online and the whole thing was expensive, but worth every penny!! Good luck and let me know if there is anything else you might need.

Oh wow. checked my spagnumed cuttings today and in one day there are new leaves sprouting on several. I'll let you know if I get roots in 2 weeks as stated in the literature. Very happy with this method-so low maintenance.

http://www.abads.net/Rooting/Rooting-large-quantities.htm