Morning Glories 2005 #25

My Beautiful
'Wedding Bells'

Emma it is stunning !

Emma Your
"Wedding Bells" are just beautiful. You just gotta save me some seed.
My WB were blue so I don't think they were the "Real McCoy" LOL...........

I'll be happy to share IF I get seeds. Fingers crossed.
Aren't they just gorgeous.
I have these planted in a container and plan to bring it inside at the first threat of cold.
Curious what they will do inside my house.

My 'Blue Ipomoea nil' from Reunion Finally Bloomed.
Only information stated was
"Originating from Africa, this is a delicious ipomoea (morning glory) with pale blue flowers having a white heart. As other annual ipomoeas it will grow fast on any prop and will bloom some two to three months after sowing. The whole plant is covered with short hairs, on the stem, leaves, and even fruits. On Reunion island it blooms during austral winter, which corresponds to short days (under 12 hours of light)."
http://www.barbadine.com/pages/ipomoea_sp._lien.htm

Anyone else ever grown this?
Any idea what the name is?

'Blue Ipomoea nil' from Reunion
Blooms are about 2"

'Blue Ipomoea nil' from Reunion
Side View

Another that I'm trying to find out what to call it is Ipomoea purpurea. Last year They were an assortment of pastel colors. White with Pink Throat and Pink Star. Very Pale Blue with Pink Star. Very Pale Pink with Pink Star. Also these same vines produced blooms with streaks, specks, and some with colored stars and some without. All on the same vines.
This year, I planted a few that I got from 'a pod' that was White with Pale Pink Star and Pale Pink Halo. At first it was blooming the same. Now, it is blooming a Very Pale Blue with Pink Star and Pink Halo.
The White Blooms look very much like this link.
http://www.barbadine.com/pages/ipomoea_violaceakondoh_lien.htm
No idea if from Reunion or not. Got them in a trade.

Side View

kateliza_id - The MG you pictured here
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1811563
is a 'tricky' looking Ipomoea nil...the sepals at the base of the blue one seem to have incured some damage,but the sepal still visible on the left is elongated,as are the sepals on the pinkish one,along with the others visible in the background...send me a few seeds...

Emma - your getting good with your sepal identification...the I.nil from Africa I would call I.nil African strain,but you might gather some additional ideas about a more 'catchy' name...the flaked purps often do what you are describing...that's the way they are...I've noticed a tendency to produce more 4 seeded pods than the regular purpureas,which usually produce more 6 seeded pods...

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Emma, I keep my fingers crossed that you get seed from your beauties.
Janett

Ron, you so amaze me with your mg knowledge. We really do appreciate your wllingness to help educate us and you willingness to share what you know about these wonderful vines.

Thanks Ron for the info on those two.

Hello all,
I have a silly question for someone,... anyone,

Will MG seed pods if they get cut off the vine mature and still be good ?

I have a few that haven't finished yet and wont make it pass the first frost or freeze before the seeds are ready to be taken so I was thinking I might be able to do this,... but I knew someone here could tell me if it will work or not.


What would you do?
:}
rh

I would hang a cloth or sheet over it during nights to protect it from frost.
Janett

Lisa and Emma - thanks for your feedback...it's good to know that I'm not just speaking into the wind...

rh3708 - hey,check out the postings on this thread
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/550122/
I hope you find something useful contained therein...if you still have any question(s) about using the method mentioned,post your questions on here or you can e-mail me and I will do my best to help you...I use the 'assisted seed ripening' technique every year and get lots of ripened seeds from off of the vines that would otherwise just turn into mush from the cold...
Janett's suggestion is useful for some transitory or initial 'not too bad' cold spells,but for very frost sensitive parts and/or for longer term insurance of viable seeds,I would strongly suggest ripening indoors...
TTY,...

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This message was edited Oct 13, 2005 3:43 PM

Ron,
Is this possibly Ipomoea lacunosa?

You ID'd one that I grew earlier this year that I 'know' that I got as a stray
as Ipomoea lacunosa. However, that one had Pink in the throat.

This one has just 'appeared' in my alley a couple of houses down, and I just noticed it yesterday.
It is a SOLID WHITE.
Bloom is small as you can gauge by the chain link fence.

Also, the leaves on this vine don't look the same to me as in any of these links
http://www.genetics.or.jp/Asagao/Yoneda/PCD2522/htmls/35.html

http://www.delawarewildflowers.org/1044.html

http://protist.i.hosei.ac.jp/Asagao/Yoneda_DB/E/PCD2522/htmls/34.html

and it doesn't appear to have the red edge around the leaf.
It is in the middle of some weeds, so I didn't look that closely yet.
I'll have to watch for more blooms for better photos,
but maybe you can tell from photos that I took today.
Also, this is a fairly new vine just starting to bloom.

Thanks Ron

Emma

Another Side View

Leaves

Another photo of the bloom
[after I ripped the bloom trying to position it]
A charming little MG

Thank You Both for the info i think i will try to do both.
first the cover and if they still arent ready i will finish up with the other.
got to go cut a few seed pods to practice on.
Take care and have a nice day everyone!

Emma - I think you have a white Ipomoea purpurea var.diversifolia...The Ipomoea lacunosa should have purplish -maroon anthers and I don't see that feature in the photos you posted...The sepals look like Ipomoea purpurea to me...The different degrees of trilobing in the var.diversifolia can vary from a mild(like what you seem to have) to a much more distinct trilobing with deeper cuts and almost separate lobes...I have Ipomoea purpurea var.diversifolia and have seen the type of leaf shape that yours is showing...I would still like to see what the sepals on the maturing seedpods look like and what the seeds look like as far as shape,coloration and if there is the slighest hint of any hair or not...
I'm 99.5 % sure of what you've got there,but the seedpods and the seeds would confirm the ID for me...send me some seeds...I don't have the I.purpurea var.diversifolia in white,yet...

RH3708 - Glad to hear you are getting some practice with ripening the seedpods in...it's pretty easy,but alittle fine tuning can help...good luck...

I had brought in a harvest of Blue Silk and also Mount Fuji Pale Purple seeds after the rains we had the last couple of days. As I was stripping the seeds out I noticed one seed of each type of JMG had germinated right in the capsule. I hated to throw them out so I potted them up, should be fun growing them indoors. My Akatsuki no Umi did so well this year indoors. It is still flowering and growing strong, started that vine in February.

Gerris2, cant you post a picture of how you grow your mg:s indoors. do you grow them "around" your window or do they have something other to grow upon and wich direction have your windows. my livingroom windows faces south.
Janett

Yea, I would love to see it also.

Oooh, Emma, very pretty Pale blue one! :)

I've been looking like crazy for this purpurea diversi-thingy, any chance I could get some seeds also? I'm interested to see if this would cross with other I. purpureas... Maybe get some bigger-flowered trilobed ones!

Also, I found a single pink I. purpurea growing wild. as far as I know, there are no wild or cultivated purpureas anywhere close, but this vine has seedpoods. lots of them. How prone is purpurea to self polinate? The only other ipomoeas around are I. pandurata, I. lacunosa and I. hederacea. Could it have crossed with these?

And, The massive wild pandurata vine has a single seedpod :))) Out of at least 100 flowers, only one pod is there. I'm gonna have to try to grow this one... if I can get to the pod, lol :) I would dig up the tuber if I knew where the base of the vine was...

-Zem

PS: as to I. lacunosa, the leaves in those pictures aren't representative of all the forms, my lacunosa http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1810733 has very deeply trilobed leaves.

-Zem

PS: Ron, I'm interested in a picture of your I. lacunosa erosus, Interesting about the near invisible flowers... is this because of their color, size, shape etc.?

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Emma, I haven't gotten any flowers off the I. indica that you sent :( but I'll take cuttings and cross my fingers for next year :) Even though it's as of yet, flowerless, I'd grow this just for the foliage!! Beautiful! Thanks, Emma

-Zem

the lower leaves are heart-shaped.. is this normal?

And now, a better picture of the I. lacunosa flower. Pink pollen?

Ron,

Sure, I will send you a few seeds if I got any seeds.

Emma,

Your label says: "solid plum with white picotee", I. Nil variegated.

Janett and rylaff,

I grow the vine in an 8" container, on a circular Japanese style wire trellis, and it grows slowly and steadily on it. I prune off the growing tip and it sends out lateral vines, of which I let grow up a bakers rack I use to light my carnivorous plants and seedlings and streptocarpus plants. I had to severly cut back the Akatsuki no umi vine because I detected aphids infesting the leaves. Synthetic pyrethroid treatment is imminent, sigh.

Joseph

Also, today, the lone flower that has been open is still open and it is after 7 p.m., showing no signs of folding up.

Zem - Ipomoea purpurea var.diversifolia...if you have the Park Spring 2005 catalog look on page 85...I also have I.purpurea diversifolia in a light-medium blue and a pink...

"How prone is purpurea to self polinate?"
Very,and it would not cross fertilize with the other species you mentioned under 'natural' conditions...

Sounds like your I.pandurata is either very self-infertlie or got pollinated from another plant...bumblebees...

"...interested in a picture of your I. lacunosa erosus, Interesting about the near invisible flowers... is this because of their color, size, shape etc.?"
No good pictures...I'll send you some seeds,you can grow it out,and see if you can photographically capture the 'mysterious' invisible flowers...when you see the seedpods,you'll know(!) there must be flowers 'somewhere'...

"... I. lacunosa flower. Pink pollen?"
Nope,just pinkish colored anthers...usually more of a purple-maroon color...Nice Photo(!)
Why don't you post a nice clear closeup like that to the database showing the colored anthers that are characteristic of this species(?!)...

kateliza_id - "...Sure, I will send you a few seeds ..." - Okay,looking forward to it...sure would like to see a couple seeds from at least one(!) of the parade of unusual flowers I had the pleasure of commenting on...
Looks like one of the stamens on your Tie Dye from Emma turned into a petal...

Just some of my morning glories

Holy Smokes that's alot of morning glories! They are all gorgeous!
:) Donna

awesome Ronnie :)

Janis

Thanks guys! I wish I was still getting blooms, few and far between now.

Nice collage, Ronnie, some of the corolla shapes are very unusual!

Joseph

luvsgrtdanes - I just love the picture collage, very beautiful flowers you grew. It almost makes me think of hummingbird candy it looks so enticing :)