Naturalizing with wildflowers

New Richmond, WI(Zone 3b)

I am new to Dave's Garden and flower gardening. We have an open field behind our house. I attempted to naturalize a small strip this year. I was about 50% successful. One shady area was pretty bare. I am working with clay soil and harsh winters. How should I groom this area for winter and how do I control the weeds/grasses in the area that I have established?

Lindsay, OK(Zone 7a)

I would try the native forum for a better answer on this one. Your local Ag Department (County) would be able to help to. Mitch

south central, WI(Zone 5a)

I would cut back the area and cover with black plastic (rolled bags work-then you can re-use. I have been somewhat successful in killing weeds that way-heat kills the weed seeds-this would set you back a season though. Also keeping the larger areas mowed very short will keep from re-seeding.
Depending on what you want to do, check with Ag Agent about anything that will kill pre-emergent weeds with little after problems.
I have some seeds that should be hardy in your shade area. Great blue lobelia likes damp shade. May want to consider some of the prairie grasses (blue stem etc-once they get started should push out the weeds.
Welcome to dg, visited your area a lifetime ago, lovely place.

New Richmond, WI(Zone 3b)

Thank for taking the time to reply. We just moved here less than two years ago. We are loving it. I contacted the county last summer to inquire about how to improve our soil for flower gardening. This is an agricultural community. The county agent seemed uninterested in such a small project that yeilds flowers. I think I would have gotten a little more attention if it was a couple hundred acres of corn or beans. He referred me to a local landscape business. They were helpful as long as I was buying plants or supplements. I started my wild garden all with seeds. I got about 60% coverage. I had mostly Johnny jump ups, blue flax, daisy, poppies and black eyed susan. None of these did well in the shady. We did notice a lot more butterflies, bees and birds in that area. We can watch this garden from our dining area. I would be happy if there was less foxtail & other grasses intermixing and the shady area wasn't so bare. It was low maintence and high enjoyment.

Westerville, OH(Zone 6a)

KristaJoy --- for lots of helpful info and plants and seeds for a naturalized flowerbed using native plants checkout www.prairienursey.com (Prairie Nursery in Westfield, WI) and Prairie Moon Nursery in Winona, MN (www.prairiemoon.com)

Cincinnati (Anderson, OH(Zone 6a)


Yes, Krista, I think there are some tricks to naturalizing a meadow with flowers...I was just looking at some books from the library about natural gardens and it looks like it will be a fascinating project for you. Lot's of hints and strategies to get the "look" you want.

Please let us know what you find out.

Happy gardening. t.

Culpeper, VA(Zone 7a)

I had some interesting luck with an old homemade square wooden sandbox left here by the previous owners & shaded by some large Osage Orange trees.

First thing I did was mix the playsand with a large amount of peat moss, horse manure compost, & potting mix. I then built a small platform of bricks & placed a cement pedestal birdbath on that. I planted some Salome & White Hood Daffodils, along with a sprinkling - lightly covered with soil - of one packet of seed mix that our Title Insurance Co. & stapled to our paperwork as a little "gift" - Burpees "Wildflowers for Shade", which included both annuals & perennials, along with an old stray packet of "Annuals for Shade". That was 8 years ago.

As of this past season, & in fairly dense/dappled shade, the daffodils are still coming up, along with quite a few Barlow-type (unspurred) Columbines that have formed a nice little colony, a wild Phlox/Rocket-type plant in brilliant pink that reseeds EVERYWHERE, some brilliant yellow Coreopsis (although these are weakening - too little sun for them), a small deep blue wild-type Morning Glory, & some type of pink-flowering vetch.

I've recently cut some of the Osage Orange branches back a bit to let in a bit more sun, & plan to revamp this cute little "wild bird area". Will plant some more Columbines, weed out some of the Phlox, & will do some more shade perennials along with another dose of seeding.

New Richmond, WI(Zone 3b)

Last week-end I clipped almost everything to a 6" stubble. That should give the developing perinnals some sun and a chance to stretch. I will do some winter sowing soon. I am just going to sprinkle the seeds and cover it with a very thin layer of bagged soil in the areas that were a little bare. I hope I that many of the plants that I had this year will self seed or come from the root. I had a few too many Black Eyed Susans. I am going to try to find some phlox to plant in the shade. Do you know what kind of phlox you have? Once I sow my winter seeds, my gardening will done for this year. It is so much fun in the spring to go to the garden and see what surprises are there.

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Culpeper, VA(Zone 7a)

It was part of one of the mixes. Am not even sure it's a phlox, but that's what it looks/smells like. From what I understand it does grow wild all over the northeast/southeast. Plants run 3'-4' tall. Flowers are a brilliant pink. Seedpods are narrow & elongated - about an inch long. The only thing I can tell you for sure is that it's not Lunaria.

Oh - & it does very well in both shade & sun.

This message was edited Oct 25, 2005 5:35 PM

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