Morning Glorys 2005 #16

Lost ID on this one
Light Purple Streaked Leaves Not Variegated
Not sure if it might be from my Blue Henka Types or not

Another photo

Same here, Dee. My vines are drying up and dying without ever blooming from the heat.

Sandy - I was wondering the same as Dee had asked,and that is do you know if the Blue Silk is "Blue Silk" or the Akatsuki no Tsuyu...it looks like the ANT that Laurrie posted as it seems to be a little on the darker side and has more 'ruffiling'...but,I've seen Blue Silks show up the same way...and that one you got with the 'Tube Top Throat' is one of the nicest of that type that I've seen in this country...There is a special Japanese name for the types that produce a tube projecting off out of the throat and I can't remember what it is...it was on the hard drive that completely crashed on me....Sure wish you could get seeds...Gotta pick out the most interesting types and let them finish maturing seed indoors or protected from direct cold somehow...Send me the plants,I'll squeeze(!) the seeds out of them...Although it'll probably be warmer for a longer while outdoors in Texas...

Ok, then send it to me....lol
I think it is glorious.

Bought this on eBay and only labeled as
Yellow Trumpet Morning Glory Vine Ipomoea lutea -
which doesn't tell you anything.
I believe 'lutea' means 'Yellow' ???

Stacey's ID must be correct ???
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/104810/index.html
Yellow Trumpet Morning Glory (Ipomoea hederifolia var. lutea)
I can't get anything else when I search for it.

Can Anyone tell me more about this - or links.
Thanks,
Emma

Emma, Dee, Ron....in no particular order :0)

The Blue Silk is indeed Blue Silk as I purchased it from Park Seed a few years back. Back when Park stopped selling Blue Silk through their catalog, I called to see if they still had any in stock and was told they had 800 packets in their inventory, but that it just wasn't enough inventory to list it again in their catalog. I bought about 25 packs and sold most of them thru ebay to help fund my plant habit. I still have a few packs left and I haven't had any trouble with germination even though they're going on probably four years old by now. I thought about purchasing ANT but thought it was the same as Blue Silk only by another name. My Blue Silk does have color variation depending on the temperatures, and sometimes even more white appears in some of the flowers (photo below).

Ron, thanks for the info on the "Tube Top" morning glory! I thought it was quite interesting when I saw it. Does this attribute appear randomly? I think I had one other bloom on the same vine but I don't recall the "tube". I'll tag this bloom in the event I bring it indoors till the seed ripens. I've tried doing it in the past but the plants die off. Anyone here done it successfully? I loathe our short growing season. How long DOES it take for a pod to ripen once it sets seed? I think my very 1st bloom on a pink JP type bloomed in June and the pods STILL are not ripe....

Thanks~
Sandy

Sandy,
Dr. Yoneda has a great germination chart on his web site,
but I have to leave to go run some errands. I'll look it up when I get back if you haven't already found it. Great information too.
Emma

I. Cairica


This one is nice.. a DGer sent me a rooted plant almost two years ago and these are the first blooms...

Akatsuki no Yume

trying to look like Chocolate... but more ruffly... it has been over 100 degrees here for several days, so, I am lucky they opened up this much. You will see lots of damage to mine due to the heat.

Akatsuki no Yuki

it tore.. darn, but it is still pretty

Pink Shibouri, from WW-Dee

Species China,

that was all that was on the label.. I have been missing the blooms, but caught one this morning (not a good photographer here so will try this one again)

Wine & Roses

again, that was all that was on the label.

Joyce Cobb


I love this flower...

This is not a photo of an MG, but to show you all how nuts I am about them..

This is Joyce Cobb's row cover... so that the heat doesn't completely kill the plant...lol

Love the I. Cairica!!

Your Joyce Cobb is amazing!!!!!

Thanks everyone on the comments :)

Here are a couple more I was able to get, hopefully the rain doesn't destroy everything

Janis

These pinks are so bright

2 more tye dyes

last one :)

Gourd,your Joyce Cobb are are particulary beautiful!

Trying to find the seed germination growth chart and came across this

Ron,
is this a 'Tube Top Throat' like you were describing on this Thread?
http://protist.i.hosei.ac.jp/Asagao/Yoneda_DB/E/Introduction/29/f22.jpg

Sandy,
Duh!
I misunderstood your question, but I'll post this link anyways.
"I loathe our short growing season. How long DOES it take for a pod to ripen once it sets seed? I think my very 1st bloom on a pink JP type bloomed in June and the pods STILL are not ripe...."

I KNOW Ron answered your question way back there, but I can't remember either.
Heck, I need a week to study all that he has written as it is.
Fabulous information, I will add.

Anyways, this chart shows 'blooming time' from when seeds are sown,
which I think is great information based on what time of year you plant your seeds
and when to expect your MG's to bloom.

The number of days from seed sowing to flower blooming
(in the case of a large-flowered morning glory, Tokyo)
http://protist.i.hosei.ac.jp/Asagao/Yoneda_DB/E/Introduction/htmls/44.html

Emma

In response to the question concerning length of time for seeds to ripen,I have found,in my experience,that it varies from cultivar to cultivar. My 'Hatsu Arashi" bloomed(and is still blooming prolifically)and had fully ripened seeds in four weeks,while others who bloomed at the same time are nowhere near ripe.

Antoinette,
Your photos are superb!
LOVE your I. Cairica
and your Joyce Cobb is out of this world.

Hi! Does my Mauve Rose Silk look like Chocolate to you? That is what your Chocolate pictures make me think of. It's the only unusual one I have, but I love it.

9kittymom,
I would say definitely 'Chocolate'
Where did you get your seeds?
The way your bloom is 'ruffled' makes me wonder if you have 'Yuuzuki"

Joseph,
Your photo here
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1723491
also looks like 'Yuuzuki"

Here is
Golgi's
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1725015

Mine
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1725077

This one is totally new for me - and I'm only guessing.

Emma

New Thread #17
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/541407/

Okay...The yellow ones...Stacey ran the botanical name by me before she posted and I thought that it was 'close enough'...if anyone has a problem with the botanical name...let me know what the 'beef' is...Ipomoea hederifolia seems to be being absorbed into Ipomoea cocinnea as a sub variety and the different ways the seedpods can be pointed on these is another 'can of worms'...I think it's an interesting flower color and has 'possibilities'...

The extended tube out of the throat is available in fairly stable varieties in Japan and China...the type Sandy has and the one you showed in the link,Emma are not the 'real' tube type,but the closest that I've seen 'over here' yet...the real tube type is NOT formed by the stamens or pistil turning into curving petals,but actually an extension of the circular base surrounding the repro organs...it's amazing that they got that thing to come out like that...I've seen pictures with the tube sticking out at least 2.5 inches with all of the stamens and pistil protruding out of the tube about a third of an inch further...I'll have to re-find the site that has the pictures of those...they're really quite 'unique' looking...
Sandy,until we get the 'extended' jobs from the Far East...save your seeds...I'm not sure why yours are dying...do you have a very sunny window...that's where I keep mine...and I keep them going(!)...but(!),if the plant has produced 'too many' seedpods already,then it will complete it's life cycle as an annual and keeping them going beyond what they are programmed to do can be 'trickey'...try to keep them in a semi-dormant state so that they are alive,but their metabolism slows down,but they can still ripen the seeds...there's different approaches to doing it that can get technically complicated...

Gourd - I like that cairica(!) the way it is showing the white ribbing...they usually don't show the white that way...put a few of those seeds aside for me...
The China Blue has usually turned out to be Ipomoea hederacea...got a close up of the sepals at the outside base of the flower,bud or seedpod...and I'll tell you for sure...basically if they are very(!) curly they are going to be hederacea...
Hudson uses some very antiquated terminology...they offer a wonderful selection,but I can tell you their botanical accuracy is often outdated in the Morning Glory department...and who has gotten their SOH or the Wine and Roses with heart shaped leaves yet(?!)...anybody(?!)...

Those 'joyce cobb' will revert back to regular looking purpureas if you don't keep selecting for the ones with the best looking 'color points'...that 'strain' of Ipomoea purpurea has 'been around' China for 'quite awhile'...

Gail - point well taken on the seeds ripening relative to the plant type...the seeds of most species and types seem to ripen in the warmer zones alot faster than they do in the cooler zones...I have had Ipomoea purpureas take 2.5 months to ripen in the heart of winter indoors...

I think I answered the questions that were asked,but if I forgot any,well,just ask again...
TTY'all...

This message was edited Aug 30, 2005 10:52 PM

Ron,found the link:
http://taxa.soken.ac.jp/Asagao/E/PCD2523/htmls/30.html
and...
http://taxa.soken.ac.jp/Asagao/E/PCD2523/htmls/32.html

Thank you Ron,
I am still fascinated with your knowledge.

Emma

There it is...Thank You Gail...There are some sites that have these "Daizaki" types even more developed...and withh striking(!) contrasting colors of the different parts...See,the Japanese call that a 'cup'...the more extreme ones don't look like a cup to me...I call that a tube(!)...interesting...the first greyish one looks to be more developed than the second reddish one...and the degree of the tubing seems to be not fully stable and varying in these examples...nice illustrations though...at least everybody can see now what I was refferring to...Thanks Again there Eagle Eye...

avec plaisir Ron!

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Ron,
I don't have a clue what you two are talking about,
but you are too funny. . . That is good!
I love it!

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Ron,

I sure will save you some seeds.

Too bad that the Joyce Cobb will revert... Does it help that I am using a cover on it?


Thanks everyone for the nice comments on the MGs..

Sorry for neglecting this forum...I've been busy with daylilies, trying to get them planted before I lose the warmth of the year. Let me play catch up here...

Luvsgrtdanes, you've got I. purpurea, a split, possibly feathered flower, not even close to 'Blue Silk' obviously. I wonder if the person you got them from didn't have them growing next to each other, since the seed size and rough shape would be similar. Did all of them grow like that?

Gail, I would absolutely love some of your Lavender Silk seeds, should they make. My Blue Silk came from Park's Seeds also, but are colored more like yours, not near as dark as Sandy's. Which leads me to wonder...

Sandy, what kind of soil are you growing yours in? I'm intrigued by the difference in color intensity. I really like the darker blue ones. They actually seem like a different blue to me. I've also had a few flowers attempt the "tube top", but not nearly as nice as yours. If I'm not mistaken, I think it's an anther converted to a petal or something (?).

Janis, did your Milky Ways come from the Feather Purple seeds? I had a few in the mix, but not many...just curious.

Ron, I think we're growing the same one from China, the one I think might be a Merremia...it's taking over the old watermelon patch and has been draped over the fence so many times, I quit counting. It has nary a bud on it. I'll get you some photos this weekend. I'm beginning to wonder if it won't be invasive here since it's throwing roots off the runners that hit the ground. :-( New leaves are bronze colored with reddish stems and reddish vines. I'll have to look closer at the hairs to see if they're white or not. It's VERY hairy!

Emma, if I had known you wanted some of the yellow ones, I coulda sent you some! They seed like crazy. I did some close comparisons between I. coccinea and I. hederifolia, and from all appearances and traits, it seemed to me to be a yellow form of I. hederifolia. I could go into detail what I looked for, but I'd even put myself to sleep explaining it. ;-) Ron was very helpful with my conclusion.

I think I have a good example of the conversion for you, Golgi. I got some seeds of 'Joyce Cobb' last year in a trade, and of all the seeds I planted, only one seedling made it. It just so happened to be the dark form of it. Emma said that it's called "Rebecca"...