Morning Glorys 2005 #13

Susan,I didn't notice your post between mine until just now. Your blue striped is beautiful. I wish mine had more of solid colors like that LOL

I agree, they are all beautiful.

I just spent about 20 minutes outside, with zip ties, plastic baggies 2x3" ziplocks and cut up index cards and a sharpie. I just hope the ziplocks will hopld up for a few weeks. I cut the hole for the zip tie on the side that opens so hopefully they will stay water proof for a while. The vines are hard to seperate and sort LOL

Janis

Janis,
This one is fabulous - Looks like 'Velvet'
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1708845
And, Scratch this one off the list that Ron is suggesting you and I cross with my Henka
Your little guy beat us....lol
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1708846

And, just LOVE your Blue Flaked
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1710930

Susan,
Can't tell for sure about the color of this one
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1710957
But it sure does look like the Indigo colored blooms I had last year

Another Indigo colored

Emma,
My bees have been very busy. I can barely get up close to the blooms without getting buzzed. Have't gotten stung yet, I think its cause they are too loaded with polled LOL And my bees are the messiest eaters EVER lol
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1710959

Just about all my blooms look like this.... little piggie bees :)

Janis

All these mgs just blow me away!! I love them name or no name. Emma I believe this one is your pink streak
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1708561

Janis,
I believe the one you are calling a 'Tie Dye',
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1710960
and http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1710930
is actually.
Aomurasakizyouhantensibori, Bluish-Purple Flaked Ipomoea purpurea
Even though 'Tie Dye' is 'Shibori' in Japanese, The actual 'Tie Dye' MG is I. nil.

Ronnie,
I think the 'Pink Streaked' look the same too.
They really are lovely.

Thanks Emma :) I'm so confused LOL

j/k

Janis

Janis,
join the crowd. That is what makes this fun....lol

Ron,
here is one for you.
I've never seen this - have you?
I need to go trace the vine down and see what seeds it came from. I guess a 'stray' because I didn't plant anything purposely that fits this bloom. It is a TINY White. Has a slight color in throat. But, it is so tiny, I need to go get my magnifying glass - which I will do in a bit, if not another day, to look at it more closely.
The blooms are about the size of a dime.
I just went out to look at the blooms again, and they are still open wide, and the sun is bearing down on them at almost 11am.
I also need to figure out how to get better photos of small objects like this with my camera. They always 'fuzz' on me.

Blue Silk

Another that I need an ID
Lavender with Halo from Large Flowered Mix From Japan

Emma -

"Emma, It looks like there's some overlap in the Akatsuki no Hikari and the Akatsuki no Kaori...
Are you saying the 'Tanchou' and 'Heian No Kaori' are the exact same" ???"

No, as a matter of fact,what I was saying there is that there seems to be some Overlap in the Akatsuki no Hikari and the Akatsuki no Kaori...I didn't mention any comparison to Tanchou there,but,I did think that there was a similarity between the Toukan you posted here
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1703681
and the Heian Yosooi you posted here
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1703687
"The Toukan and the Yosooi(FAA608) would be interesting to see right next to each other in the same picture.."


Akatsuki no Kaori
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/71424/index.html


Akatsuki no Hikari
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/103751/index.html

http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1706120
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1706574

The liitle white flowers that you have are Ipomoea lacunosa(despite the fact that the leaves are mixed in with a bunch of I.purpureas...you just love 'testing' me don'tcha!) ,one of the very(!),very(!) few that will actually cross fertilize/hybridize with I.cordatotriloba resulting in Ipomoea x leucantha...


This looks like a much nicer(!) version of Izumi to me...

http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1711355

TTY'all

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Another Kaori...

Heian no Kaori
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1698802

Where the line is between HNK and HNH could be a 'tough' one to determine...the degree of crossover in the type and degree of coloration in the throat seems quite variable...

Yup! was gonna say the little flowers Emma ARE I. lacunosa, editing to say this photo LOL RON caught me, is obviously merremia sibrica!!!!!!!!! I grew them last year and again this year :)

This message was edited Aug 22, 2005 10:53 PM

Ron, I bought a packet of Haru no Hikari seeds from a Japanese vendor on eBay this year. It is a nice pink corolla...I'm at work so can't provide further details.

Thanks Ron,
Hey - your are VERY humerous....lol

Ron, you are confusing me [which is very easy to do lately...lol]
with 'Toukan' and 'Tanchou'.

Ok, see if I have this right.
This IS 'Toukan'
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1703681

This is the one I'm wondering if I have ID'd wrong
'Tanchou' that I posted here
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1706574
I left out a major step and didn't name my bloom - which is as I know it 'Tanchou'.
When I wrote this:
"Ronnie,
LOVE your Akatsuki no hikari
[HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]
It looks so much like one I grew last year
I have it growing this year, but no blooms yet.
Can you tell a difference?"

I've never heard of Akatsuki no hikari which is why I was asking.

good grief, if we weren't confused before, we surely will be now!
See what happens when I leave out one itty bitty detail?

Now, let me start over.
I am wondering if the 'Tanchou' IS THIS? Or, if I have this one ID's incorrectly?
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1706574
AND, if it is the same as Hein No Kaori?

Thanks again Ron,
Emma

Thanks Ron and Laurrie for the ID on my TINY White.
See, Laurrie, I can see the details of your tiny bloom.
I need to learn how to use my camera to do that.
Maybe I should read the instructions??? lol

Emma Akatsuki no hikari came from Hida

Lavender silk turning pink, stayed open all day

Emma - I have corrected the typographical error in my post - the error corrected was to change the word Tanchou to what it should have been >"Toukan"...re:"between the Toukan you posted here"

Laurrie - The picture you posted here
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/55125/
is of the same one you posted to the database of Merremia sibirica and it is M.siberica...I was going to comment before you posted that the corollas of Ipomoea lacunosa and M.sibirica look similar,but the stamens(although very similarly tinged ) of the M.sibirica are larger and are attached to a different part of the inside of the corolla...take a look...it would be easy to see these as the same unless you looked very close at the inside structures of the corolla...


Joseph - you are right(!) and I have removed the mis-statement from the above post,as there is most certainly a "Haruno hikari" Takii product FAA590...I almost forgot about this one...sitting right next to Takii product FAA598 "Heian Haru" and(!) right next to Takii product...(Drum Roll)...Takii product FAA538 spelled"Heian Akathuki"...no error there on how I see it is spelled on the Takii package...maybe there is no 'th' in Japanese,but it didn't stop Takii from spelling their product that way...

Now I'm going to read over Emmas post again before I post further response to her questions...

Emma Grace,
That is a Gorgeous MG! I look at this thread and drool but had real problems with MGs this year due to drought and excessive heat. Got great germination but the plants did not prosper. The other vines such as Black-eyed Susan and Trumpet Vine 'Madame Galen' are threatening to take over the universe, but the JMGs I really wanted to grow got fried. Did get a couple of fresh seeds from a couple of the MGs, however. Anyone in South Texas have any pointers on growing JMGs here? I garden on on sandy, alkaline soil.
Do I need to keep the MGs in pots here? They dry up super fast, even the plastic ones, but am willing to do whatever it takes.

Never daunted, I cannot help but ask if there is going to be another MG Co-op...Barb

BTW, I bought the 'Madam Galen' because it was supposed to have nicer manners that the rampant species. It does look great on the arbor but it does not stay where it was planted.

Emma - The link to the "Toukan" is "Toukan"...
The picture you posted of "Tanchou" looks very similar to the way it is pictured by Yamato and some other 'jobbers' in Japan...The "Tanchou" does look very similar to the Akatsuki no Kaori,which looks similat to the Akatsuki no Hikari(I have Sakatas exact product # somewhere,but the package I located is the Primax one)...Takii has a Heian Kaori and another one that is mostly white with a small colored throat...I'll have to look for the exact name and Product#,but they all (!) can apparently come out looking so much alike,that the genetic and actual perceptible differences may be virtually indistinguishable....think about what we're dealing with here...in all cases,an all white flower with just a little color in the throat...realistically,the flowers that come out of all of these 'different nanes' are probably so(!) close(!) genetically,that alot of 'overlap' in the 'phenotype',which is what we actually see,is probably going to be very similar with alot of relatively shared coloration features to that patch of color at the throat...as Takii has 3,Sakata has 2,and other companies have marketed other types called by other names,that may be exact copies of what Takii and Sakata are offering or there could be some slight differences,that are slight enough,that they will all wind up looking like all the others at some point...

I used to do this alot"[HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]",before I realized that you have to click onto the actual link and copy it from the adddress bar or paste the entire address into Word,before you post it,or it just shows up as '[HYPERLINK@davesgarden.com]'...


The small pink yojiro is called in Japanese "Sayaka",so we can use that instead of calling it the small pink yojiro or the small pink Mt.Fuji...


TTY'all...

Hi Barb,
Thank you!
Aren't these JMG's incredible!

I too had many of my JMG's 'fried', sooner than I expected this year. I do have another crop on the way, some already blooming.

Maybe someone else can answer your question about your area better than myself. WillowWasp lives in Brazoria that is I think 9aTX Zone as well. Maybe she will see this post and write you. As far as I understand it, she does grow all of her MG's in containers.

Don't give up --- try them in containers, so they won't get totally melted by this Texas sun. This way you can move them when it is necessary for longer blooms. Some of the last that I planted are in containers, as well as in the ground.

Emma

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