Morning Glorys 2005 #11

Ok guys those from today were AWESOME!!!!!!!

gogli, those colors were unreal, I wish I could see that in person.

susan, thanks for the compliments and yours are beautiful too :) Keep showing us please!!

Emma, OMG girl!!!! they keep getting better and better LOL

Running out of adjectives :)

I got up at 10 so mine were pretty scraggly but I'll post a few that weren't too bad, gotta download and resize them first :)

Janis

Janis,
They do resemble except for the color.
Fuji No Sora looks to be Lavender?
Mine is a Baby Blue!

I dunno Emma.... mine hasn't bloomed yet, but I have noticed that the package colors seem to be "enhanced" a bit sometimes... it just popped into my head as soon as i saw it :)

Lincolnitess - The flap coming out of the throat is usually one of the stamens turning into a petal...I would mark the pod and watch for any others like that as it might turn out to produce more of a larger double petaled type...

Emma - The Ipomoea trichocarpa has been absorbed into Ipomoea cordatotriloba as var.cordatotriloba,still known by the common nane of "Sharp Pod MG"

please take note of the comment I posted to the database

http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/55639/index.html

http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/topics.cgi?earl=plant_profile.cgi&symbol=IPCOC2

http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/topics.cgi?earl=plant_profile.cgi&symbol=IPCOC2
sharp hairs on the stems and pods

http://www.sbs.utexas.edu/mbierner/bio406d/images/pics/cnv/ipomoea_cordatotriloba.htm
smooth,no hairs

The Blue yojiro is one of the lighter blue ones that comes out of the yojiro mixes...I haven't seen that lighter blue one named by the Japanese yet...

I got some Royal Robes that are showing the same mid-petal 'corona' as Kathy-Ann's 'mystery plant' did in the previous thread...

Take a look at the insects in the throat of this Akatsuki no Haru...the one on the right is an ant,but the one on the left is a flower thrip,which eat(!) pollen(!)...I have seen them strip the pollen completely off of the anthers before the flowers can pollenate...and they somehow manage to get into the flowers before they even open...keep a lookout for these critters...

Well,unfortunately the picture of that ANH doesn't show up enlarged after I posted itenough to see the thrip in the throat very well,it does show up in my original on my computer...
Here are two closeups of the pollen eating critters...

And another pollen eating thrip...

eugh i think i have some of those :((

Pictures everyone :)

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Edited to say not a JMG, but a heavenly blue... it snuck in there somehow :)

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regular MG's next LOL I guess if I had gotten up earlier, I'd be using up the whole thread
Janis

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4 I love this one today the color is so delicate

just a couple more

again

the last of them LOL

Janis

pic helps huh? lol

Is anyone else growing Akatsu no Murasaki? If so,could you snap some pics of leaves and some side shots showing sepals?

Ron and others,

I did a scan using Google, and it appears you can control thrips using a predatory mite which you can release on your plants...I plan to follow-up by reading more about this species but here is a web page where it is described:

http://www.biconet.com/biocontrol/cucumeris.html

Happy reading!

Joseph

Thanks Joseph...I know I had to look through an enormous amount of pictures on Googles image search to find thrips that look like the ones I get here...apparently there are alot(!) of different kinds of thrips,and I wonder if these mites will kill the ones that I get up here...the same ones that eat the pollen on the MG's here,also hang out in the roses and dandelions here...they hang out 'smugly' in the bottom of the MG's most of the day and do most of their pollen eating very(!) early in the morning...

I would think this predator is a generalist, and would feed on any thrips species. I read the information quickly on the referenced web site and saw no claim to specificity of prey. I'll read more and get back with you. I need to look more closely at my flowers for this thrips varmint.

If you know they hang out in the lower reaches of the vines, away from the flowers, why not spray the leaves with Neem or an insecticidal soap to take them out before they move up into the flowers? Might be worth a try on one container, perhaps? Phasers on spray, Mr. Sulu, fire at will! LOL

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They hang out in the lower tube of the flowers...even after the flowers close(!)...and then,they stealthily make their way into the freshly opened flowers and sometimes I have found them already inside the flowers before they have even opened...

I found the company's spec sheet for the predator on the referenced web site. They state the target pests are Frankliniella occidentalis (western flower thrips...say that latin name 5 times real fast, you just can't do it), Thrips tabaci (onion thrips), and a couple of mite species.

So if they lurk at the base of the flower, you could even spray there and not hit inside the corolla, thereby not affecting the pollinators (well not too much).

Thanks Ron, and Joseph,
I was wondering what those tiny insects were in my MG's.
Too many critters hanging out!

Ron,
Thanks for the info about the Sharp Pod.

Ron,
Can you maybe tell me what this one is.
I always think of this as a 'sort of' Sharp Pod because of the same Color Pink, but this one has a White Halo. Very pretty too.
I grew this one that I'm posting in 2003. and am growing it again this year. I got my seeds in 2003 from JL Hudson and I could be wrong, but I remember they were referring to this as I. violacea [which it is not].
I'll need to go back and look at my notes from that year.
Can't find anyone who knows the scientific name.
[I even have a good story behind this too that you may enjoy later]
Also, I did come across someone about 60-miles from me that have been growing this same MG that has been traced back in their family to over 75 years. I probably have a photo of that MG somewhere too.

Edited to show another link where you directed me regarding the Sharp Pod.
Isn't this the same as I've posted?
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/55958/



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Ron,
One more thing -

"The Blue yojiro is one of the lighter blue ones that comes out of the yojiro mixes...I haven't seen that lighter blue one named by the Japanese yet..."

Were you referring to my photo perhaps?
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1699231

Thanks

Wow Emma, That is the coolest looking flower you just posted, really like that halo effect in the corolla!

Joseph - The thrips hang out INSIDE(!) the flowers,at the bottom of the INSIDE(!) of the flowers...I don't recall ever seeing them anywhere(!) else(!) except the inside of the flowers...nowhere(!) outside of the flowers...
I am trying to find the species name of the thrips...I have it somewhere,but they are the same species that breed inside of Calystegia and they actually prefer the Calystegia to the JMG's...they are referenced in this Proffessional Journal
Aggregation and mating of thrips in flowers of Calystegia sepium. Ecol. Entomol. 10, 433—440. Kirk W. D. J. (1996)



Emma - JL Hudson carries a great variety of seeds and they are 'heroes'...but(!),it is strange to me,that as knowledgeable as they seem to be,they often use some very outdated terminology...they offered Ipomoea trichocarpa several years ago,and that is what you are most likely referring to getting from them...
The picture that you posted in the previous MG thread by the name of Ipomoea trichocarpa,is now correctly known as Ipomoea cordatotriloba var.cordatotriloba...
The picture that you have posted above is also an Ipomoea cordatotriloba...I can't see how much hair or lack of hair is on the various parts,so I couldn't say as to whether it is the main type species(which is the hairiest) or one of the varieties,but the degree of white in the throat is highly variable in all of the I.cordatotrilobas and can't reliably be used to differentiate the main type species from any of the varieties...
This picture
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1699600
is Ipomoea cordatotriloba and is not any special cultivar,because it's been in Texas for millions of years...if you like the way the pattern is in the throat,by all means grow it and Enjoy(!)

Yes,the blue yojiro I was referring to is the light colored one you posted and was asking about...it comes out of the mixes and although it most closely seems to resemble the Fuji no Sora...it seems to be a lighter color tham Fuji no Sora and often smaller sized like the smaller yojiros...I don't know if there is a specific name for it...

This message was edited Feb 7, 2006 4:00 AM

Ron,
I thought the exact same thing about JL Hudson.
I no longer have the seed packet that the seeds came in
[sent to someone to ID for me, and they never did],
But, I do keep fairly good records.
Here is cut and paste from their catalog when I ordered the seeds in 2003
[and I probably even have the same catalog]

I trichocarpa tricolor Varieties (= I. violacea) aka: Sharp-pod Morning-glory
[Showy twining vines to 10 - 20 feet or more, with heart-shaped leaves and funnel-shaped flowers to 5 - 6" across. México. Tender perennial grown as an annual. Easily grown in any garden, but prefers a light, rich, sandy soil and a sheltered sunny spot. Pot-bound plants give a good display. Excellent pot plant in the greenhouse or sunny window. Soak seed, nick hard ones (about half), germinates in 1 - 2 weeks warm.
"One of the most beautiful of annual climbers." --L.H. Bailey.]

well,to be fair,thrips had to be outside at ONE point,before they crawled inside.
(tossing my 31/3 drachmas worth in)

A few of mine and an ID on this one

Mastukaze

A bucket full of blooms!