Blaine, are you talking about moving them out of your basement in late Feb or early March to the hoophouse? Then when do you foresee moving them out of the hoophouse? Do you get snow all of this time?
I used logs for my trees this year and had them last in 3 gallon buckets. I didn't have any help until now to plant them in the ground and they are aoout 8 feet tall. We put them in the ground about 4 days ago and 2 of them have Y'd since.
Also Blaine, are you going to use a bubbler to get your roots started? Like nubbies. What about logs? Last year I planted logs in 6" pots and stretched a baggie over it to get them started. It worked some of the time but I lost maybe 50/50.
One thing I wanted to ask you both is, do the cuttings in bubblers need light during their dormant time? Can they survive in total darkness?
Sherry, I was the one who talked about the glass pickle jar. Where do you get them? Is that what you are going to use for your shorter cuttings? And then the taller waste baskets for the tall ones? Or, you won't need any taller waste baskets for 2 foot tall cuttings. Shorter will do.
Sorry, just kind of thinking to myself and talking to you.
As far as the large pots go, that is wonderful if you have the place to put them in the ground. I am a firm believer that they do better that way.
And the reason chemicals defoliate is normally because people don't follow directions. That is why they put them on the conainer. LOL Things like leaving 6 leaf nodes is good for people like rj who don't have to do all of the winterizing like we do. Other things you are talking about you need to list for me or give me a clue what they are.
Jeanette
Monika's book regarding soil
Jnette, you posted: the reason chemicals defoliate is normally because people don't follow directions>>>>> ROTF, tears in my eyes, lol. Yep, you nailed that one, except you could have added, over and over again, whew, and what a heartbreaker, it is so awful, it's funny. If one of my kids or an employe had done as badly as I did, re NOT listening to or reading directions, I would have thought they suffered from low mentality. I do, *think*, I'm on the right track now. If I had killed the brugs, and I tried LOTS of times, I wouldn't be posting here and now. They are such forgiving plants that it breaks my heart and thank goodness I finally 'heard' what I needed to know. I 'heard' it from Kell, but I know others mentioned the same stuff, but I was seized with stubborn denial, often called stupidity, turned a deaf ear. NOW, when I do anything, I follow the instructions further than to the T.
Ooops re the pickle jar. I love them but I won't do tall cuttings this year. Just no need to in my zone. BTW, I have received a boat load of inquiries about 'cutting back' my brugs. Most were with regard to bubblers, and I'd like to explain something. I NEVER cut back my brugs, as a group. On occasion, I will cut back a brug because it blocks the way, or I want to improve the shape, after a limb has broken it. I take cuttings of brugs, to send them to friends, and to put in the bubbler, but I never touch the remainder of the brug until deep winter, and I remove the trunks down to about 18 inches outta the ground, simply and only to tidy up, so it doesn't look quite as much like we've had a nuclear blast. Mine have grown outta that stalk, no more than two inches above ground, but I leave the 18 inch stalk, just in case. Okey dokey, I have guests, later...
I haven't put cuttings in water (bubbler) and just left it.
There's many who do. I'm stuck on the thing about roots developed in water being different from those in solid.
So... whatever I put in a bubbler I'll put in a little pot as soon as the nubs are spikey. About to send out roots. Then as soon as I see roots at the drain holes I pot up again and continue doing that up to a 3gal pot. It's worked like a charm this first year. You know what they say, 'If it ain't broke don't fix it'.
I'd read accounts about the log and tried 3 this summer as an experiment. Couldn't be easier. I haven't covered them or anything. Just set in the shade and don't let it dry out. So the ones I do this fall I'll cut them into sections about 4" long with at least one or two nodes on one side. Press it into the potting soil and keep it moist. Covering something is to maintain a humid environment when you have cuttings with foliage and no roots. No foliage, not necessary. With only a couple of little leaves at the growing point I've found I don't need to do that with cuttings place directly into soil either.
This winter, I plan to watch my bubblers more closely too, and pot them up when they root. I didn't put mine in the bubbler, last year, until Dec 15 and, with low temp in the greenhouse/bubbler, it took them a little longer to show nubbies and rooting than it does in the spring and growing season, and, for me, that's good, because I'd like a bit of a dormant time too, lol!! I intended to do that last year, but almost 8 weeks devoted to my ankle stopped me from following my plan as closely as I intended. Right now, I'm planning time off this winter for some other project activities that I've put off for the growing season, but I bet I'm back to brugs quicker than I think now. Of course right now, I'm hand watering twice a day, at least, every day and I'm looking forward to just a little 'cold' snap, with rain, to recharge my energy and diminish my watering chores, at least a little...
Hi Guys, Been busy with my daughter and her family here and also, I hve been reading and re-reading your posts Sherry and Blaine. Sherry, I am assuming you are laughing so hard at what I said because you don't read labels. I thought only men didn't follow instructions. LOL
I have made notes to myself using both of your posts and yes, Sherry, I know I am not in your zone. I think it is interesting that Blaine is not going to save any of his tall ones. He is going to do what I essentially did this year unwittingly by using logs to make his tall trees. The only difference is that he fertilizes every time he waters and I don't. They get too big. I had my lights hung from the rafters by chains and it made it very easy to raise and lower them as needed for the different growth.
Also, he can have a transition because of the hoop house and I have to go directly from the basement to outside so I keep them in the basement longer. Altho, I do have a portable greenhouse I could probably try to heat. I know some of the people have said they put the radiator style heaters in them.
Blaine, what kind of heater do you use? So, if you put yours out Feb or early March, then how big are they going to be when you move them into the ground? And is that late May?
Jeanette
I don't know Jeanette. Taller ones are going to be 3' plus. It depends on what I start with. I think they did slow a bit when I moved them outside since watering changed to a hose and they weren't being fed every time. The 3 gal pots by that time weren't staying constantly moist either. Till I started leaving the doors open, a few times I didn't crack one and the HH would be upper 90's before I got home. So I bounced 'em around pretty good temperature wise in Apr/May. It was my first time with a HH.
I put one of those oil filled radiator heaters out there and had a box fan hung in the overhead at one end. I've got to do differently next year. In the back corner on the end where the heater and fan were is where the spider mites got started. Especially after the bigger ones grew there was probably incomplete air circulation. Plus I couldn't step in and get good watering on each pot. It was crowded and I was kind of shooting back there in the near vicinity. :) I think I'm going to hook up a drip watering system next spring.
Blaine, I think I read in one of the threads you said your hoop house is 90 feet long???? WOW, What did you say you heat it with? Are you independently wealthy or what? Do you have a nursery? I know, you have stock in the oil companies. ALL of them.
I started mine, the trees, from logs. When they got to be 2 feet tall in my bedroom I moved them to the basement on a counter with lights hanging from the rafters with chains. When the lights got to be up close to the ceiling (rafters) I removed the counter, putting them on the floor, and lowered the lights again. Finally early June I had to put them outside and they were about 5+ feet. I was not able to put them in the ground so stayed in their 3 gallon buckets until last week. That was too bad because I could have had some really nice plants. As it is, they are nice, but not even blooming yet even though I fertilized them all that time.
Did you guys read the thread by Diane Kerney about the Azomite? They have a lot more distributors than the one rj bought. If I knew how I would kick it into this thread. Maybe someone else can.
rj, are you out there? Even at that I don't think I am close enough to avoid a huge amount for shipping.
Jnette, you are a funny pal, you and rj, Blaine, Kell, Scoot, Diane, LindaSC, Carol, Jackie, Sidney, Kin, Julie, and oh so many others, I love you guys that tell it like it is. I know there must be considerable age difference in all of us, for doG's, sake, and, please don't remind me; whatever all that has to do with this thread, or others, I dunno. But it's fun being here, thanks to all...
90' + ? yeah, in my dreams. With unlimited funds I'd have several acres and a nursery size greenhouse with a bedroom/kitchen in the middle.
The HH is 8x10. I finished assembling in 7-Apr and this is 10-Apr after I moved plants out. You can see the size of the bigger ones I moved out of the house.
Hi guys, my days off are Sun and Mon -- so for the last 2 days I've been covered from head to toe with dirt!
Ya know - I totally forgot about the Azomite. I must not have ordered it because I have an order file - and there was nothing in my file - remember when I was looking for the shipping charge? I didn't have it in my order file. I was even at southwest fertilizer yesterday picking up more Space City for DG members. I forgot to ask about the Aomite..and they have everything. I even talked to the owner yesterday about the shipping prices. I tried to explain to him that he was missing somewhat significant business because of it. Do you know what he heard? Blah blah blah blabbblaabhala - I could see it in his face. He did say that he used the shipper that he uses because they "pick up", and they were generally the best prices. - Basically until the Post office picks up packages (which he said was in the works for the post office) that the shipping will remain the same. whew! I did buy 2 more bags of Volcanic sand, I couldn't be more pleased with the stuff!
Sherry, your right ... Kell does have good advice - I have to take another look. I think I got lost after the nodes. even in my brug book - I have to get the node part down. The bubbler sounds cool!
I have to be careful when I'm throwing my brug branches in the mulch bin here because they root so easily. I have a brug tree growing out of the mulch bin. I for some reason - cannot throw plants out.
Also Sherry-- your not alone. I sprayed my brugs with ironite (recommendation from a friend) I had brug leaves dropping all over-!
My comuter is acting up...better send this now.
Rj
The post office already picks up if you go priority mail or better. Heck, they even send free boxes for priority mail.
Mary
I can't wait to see if the Azomite is the same as what yours is, Rj. Didn't you say yours is clay like and holds water. I think the stuff I bought, Azomite, may be dust like. So tell me again what Space City is??? Is it something I must have? LOL. I can't go thru this long thread again looking for data, it would make me too nuts. I have only done it about 5 times already. LOL
Blaine, Tom made me a hoophouse a few years ago and he redoes it every November now. It is made out of PVC and HD's plastic so every inexpensive to do. It really works well. Last year he made it 12 ft tall to accommodate my taller brugs. I learned all about it on here. This year I am going to get over my fear of electrocuting myself and heat it. Of course it is not red and and cute like yours is.
Thanks Sherry and Rj, I try to help others just like I was helped here. I have picked up quite a lot from hanging out here so long and also from growing hundreds of these things. You get to see a lot fast. And they are not really complicated plant like orchids. They reward you fast too!
ahh..hi Kell - I almost give up on the brugs when I see your pictures!! So THAT's how their suppose to look! :)
Space City Fertilizer or yardgeek.com puts out a fertilzer that closely matches the number Monika recommended. It's an 18-10-28 analysis. The brugs really respond to it. I'm still experimenting with how often. I have noticed an increase in mealy bugs and scale. I'm thinking that the high phosporus is an attractant to the bugs - but that's just a theory of mine.
The volcanic sand - is a soil amendment. I'll quote from the bag. "Lava sand is a soil amendment with a high exchange capacity. Exchange capacity accelerates the ability to hold and make available mineral nutrients that already exist in your soil."
The difference from what I read about lava sand and the Azomite is: Azomite has minerals and other additives - is more clay like and in my opinion resembles the ingredients from European Hawita Monika refered us to. In summary - it is the "exchange capacity" that we should be interested in. From experience now - the volcanic sand allows great drainage at the same time capturing the nutrients that are in, or added in by us via fertilzer etc - allowing the plant to absorb a greater amount that is normally washed out of potting soil, or even in ground plantings by regular watering schedules. My first experiment was with Papaya trees - so that is what I have to rely on right now. I can say this - From the 5 years of growing the Papayas, I have never seen them grow so fast - the leaves really aren't keeping up with the trunk growth. I do realize that there is a combination platter going on, having learned over the past couple years what and what not to do. The two thing that are measurable are the lava sand and the fertilzer analysis 18-10-28 - the papaya trees love it. I have planted two Island Girl Brugmansias with the lava sand, and am monitoring and documenting with photos. Mind you, I'm being a bit cautious with the amount of sand I'm using- having learned "a little is a lot" in the plant kingdom. Second phase experiment will be adding 0-0-5 minerals by green sand. I think for me, I am prefering the blank slate of just lava sand - and adding, or not what I want.
Jeanette - those bubblers sound nifty. I think I pretty much propegate like Blaine. I have what I call a "stick" pot. It is a large pot specifically designated for branch propegation. Whenever I'm trimming things around the yard and I want more - I stick it in the stick bucket. I also keep it in the shade. You would be surprised what you can grow!
Rj
We should sic Diane on finding the Space City Fertilizer for us. LOL. Thanks for all your info Rj. I can't wait to get it.
I just bought a can of super bloom with a middle number of 55. Clare is tutoring me in Plumies, my newest interest. They like this to bloom I have been told. I was wondering why we do not give it to brugs once they Y.
I looked for the newly formulated Miracle Grow today, but we still have the old stuff at HD and Lowes with 30 as the middle number..
Thanks for you brug picture compliments. But the truth is I rarely post my ugly brugs. LOL. I keep those hidden away. Believe me I have a few. On another thread, I posted a real ugly one just a few minutes ago.
The only trouble with us all trying all these new things right now, is that brugs seem to shape up starting now and look their best going into fall. They can be at their peak when the first frost hits and ruins it all. So it will be tough to separate out the product from the better weather.
Blaine, love your HH. It don't look like 90' to me!!! LOL AND, you didn't tell me what oil stock you have. LOL Love the idea of the kitchen/bedroom in the middle of the HH.
Sherry, we have had a lot of fun and gotten to know so many cool people on this thread. Those that have the fortitude to crawl through it. I cannot believe 5 times Kell. BTW Kell, send for a catalog from Farmtec. They have some pretty good deals on the covering for the greenhouses.
rj, did you read what Mary said about the post office delivering? Unless you have a real friendship going with that guy that you order stuff from, you might check into it.
rj, do you think if I call my bubbler a "stick pot" it will root these things as well?
Well, Blaine and Sherry, after reading everything you guys have written, and I agree Sherry, everyone on here is great, I still do not know what I am going to do to winter my stuff over. Hopefully I will have one more month to figure it out, unless of course we have a quick frost and then a lot of nice weather. It does that too.
Jeanette
When I got up just now Jeanette I was thinking about posting the same thing.
Especially since this is still just my first season with brugs, I'm really just flying by the seat of my pants. Most of what I do isn't planned out and a schedule maintained. I have a general idea of what I'm going to do but more so, a general idea of what I want in the end. So everyday I stand around gawking then I'll be moved to take action on something. I get a kick out of some writers who've mentioned how a grandmother or someone just had "intuition" on when and how to garden. I think the real key is to just do something and to "keep" doing something. I don't get caught up in chasing all the magic elixirs and perfect soil or ammendments. A brug is just a plant and I've treated them as such, drawing on what works for me as compared to all input I've gleaned from this forum. Take a tomatoe, rose or canna. If the watering is sparse or you never really accomplish more than wetting the foliage and the top fraction of soil... and if there isn't plenty of compost or something worked in to begin with or you don't drench the root area with fert on a regular basis... you'll have no size, few leaves and no blooms. If you have an abundance of water and don't supply enough nutrients they'll still become weak with few or small blooms. Just MHO. :)
So for overwintering brugs, I've got a general idea. One day there'll be a flurry of activity when I get the itch. It'll probably be a combination methods.
My other issue right now. do I have a lot cleanup to do in a few weeks!!!!!!
Hi, All - I agree with everything above about this being a great forum - I treasure the info I gather here and the wonderful people I have come to know.
Space City Fert, huh, Kell - well, maybe next year .. I'm still exhausted from my search for Azomite or Adzumplus. Btw, here is the link to my other thread on that for the person that asked: http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/539803/
Kell - I found the new formula Miracle Grow locally and just applied it last night with the hose end sprayer. I have been using Cal-Mag 15-5-15 but I was diagnosed with Bersitis elbow a few weeks ago and my doctor threatened me with surgery if I didn't give up the hand watering with gallon jugs and start using a watering wand. I followed the MG up with a spray of Messenger and Spray n Grow.
The severe drought here for the last 2 months (we have had < than 1/8" rain since July 1) has killed every stick of grass in the yard and many of the trees are looking very bad with dried leaves. However, through dogged determination, and herculean efforts of watering twice a day, fertilizing, and mite killing - my brugs and other 120 containers of plants are looking better than I have ever seen them. As I sat down on the back patio after finishing everything last night, John asked me again.."are you sure you don't have too many plants? Is it worth it?" I smiled an waved my arms towards the forest of blooms around us and said, "look at this! I LOVE this..this is why I do it..is it worth it? Absolutely"
Diane
Diane, how often do you use messenger?..I was told to use it once every 3 weeks?....
And you are right about all the work you do tending the plants..the pleasure we get out of all that work is soooo worth it...Judy
Kell, that's an idea re the plumeria fertilizer - I have to go back and look at another thread, but I believe there was a recommendation that the last number in the analysis be the high number.
Jeanette - I did see that about the post office picking up. That has not happened here yet. The guy at S.W. fertilzer I only met on Monday. I bet you could root alot of things in the "stick bubbler bucket" :)
I agree with Blaine about finding the magic elixer. It's back to basics in the end. That's not to say though, that we cannot learn and benefit from our friends in Europe who have a great history of botany behind them. When you see the pictures of their Brugmansias - I become determined to learn what I can, with the goal of one day producing such stunning Brugmansias. I would like to learn the next step about not using "garden soil" in the pots, that was Monikas suggestion at the beginning of the thread. One step at a time !
I really have enjoyed this thread too, and wow have I and the garden benefited!
Wow that drought sounds terrible. We started out that way here in June, and I know how much work it is to water twice a day!
I'm off to make a ginger trail on the side of my green house, got to put down the pea gravel!
Rj
You know, it is so much fun learning what others in this, just in our own country, do differently than ourselves that I don't know if I will live long enough to start on other parts of the world. LOL i.e. rj, what is a Ginger trail? Also rj, go into the post office url and see what they say about it. Even their ad on TV talks about it. LOL, not the Ginger trail. Picking up the packages.
Diane, I sure do know what your dr. is talking about. Our bodies wear out so we must take care of them. Take it from me, do what you can to put surgery off as long as possible.
Another kind of dr. would realize how much stress you get rid of just by working with, watering, and looking at your lovely plants.
Blaine, you are not the only one that just started last fall with the Brugs. I am raising my hand and waving it. Can you see it? Me too. I guess that is why we try for the "magic elixer"? A quick fix? But doing the same thing over and over doesn't make it right.
Just a few weeks left to clean up means that deciding what to do for the Brugs for the winter is part of that. If I knew what I was going to do for the winter I could "clean up".
Jeanette
Jeanette,
The side of my green house has been sort of a pot storage place. The EE regular basic, generic ears have grown to epic proportions -between the fence and the green house. I suppose their reaching towards the light. I can now walk underneath them. I am putting a pea gravel path and border - and am going to build a trail (path) towards the deck - with various gingers growing along the path. We'll see how that turns out. I have cardigan ginger back there now underneath the EE.
RE the Post office - That's the fertilizer guys issue, and like I said...I don't think he heard much of what I was saying - so in the mean time - I'll be posting some of his stuff for our friends here at DG.
Rj...Okay..too many abreviations...LOL
Rj
This is the area..I'm putting gravel down on the left - and a border along the EE. You can see my garden hoe propped up against the Ear. I'm going to put gingers at intervals-- the pat will eventually go to the deck steps..That will be next summer before it's done.
Rj
I am really miffed at some of my brugs, in particular with my original brug, a pink unknown and Pink Beauty and Rosamond. The former two are over 12 feet tall and have not bloomed this season and the other two have only had a few buds. Then, I have seedlings started 2/22/05, one has already bloomed, and will have at least one more flush, and I have any number of others that will bloom before the first freeze. And, all the seedlings were chemical damaged and none of the other brugs that have not bloomed were injured by the chemicals. Hmmmmm, I'm beginning to wonder if the chem damage might have been good for the seedlings. Or, could it be that the almost two months I gave them water, only, to neutralize the chem damage might be the best thing for them, meaning that the ones that haven't bloomed have had too much fertilizer?? If they don't hurry up, I'm moving all the non bloomers to the back 40 and let them go. Then, I will under plant the front gardens and the cement pond gardens, which are the gardens I gaze upon all day, every day. I'm now going shopping on line to find new, fragrant plants and hopefully get them established before winter...
Diane, I hate that about your elbow. My hands have been aching for some time, but then I water, with buckets, twice a day, 2 1/2 gals each, 19 buckets and I refill twice, except when it rains, like yesterday and NO watering today, I feel like I've been let out of jail free. There is a gel, Diane, Arnica Topical Gel, and it is amazing. My orthopedic specialist gave me mine and it's wonderful!! In fact everyone around here is using it for one thing or the other, with good results.
Jnette/rj, I missed what ever it was about the post office. Is it on this thread?? If so, about how many posts ago, lol, it is impossible to read this whole thing. Maybe you need to make an index, Jnette to tack on your first post and give the post number where certain topics are discussed, whew, makes me tired thinking about trying to do that.
Blaine, I like your gardening attitude, and it surely shows in your garden. I'm impulsive by nature, and tend to over do - I plan to alter that, but I'm not sure it's possible, whew!!
Sherry - Arnica Topical Gel, eh? oh, boy..here I go hunting down something else! This time it's for me and not my brugs though! LOL thanks, I will try that - I have been taking 3 Aleve tablets 2 times per day and it is still killing me...sigh..I hate getting old.
Diane Krny
Oh Diane, you poor girl. I am almost afraid to mention on here but I am so lazy I do not even mix up my fertilizer anymore. I read on one of the forums, I think here, that some one was just putting their MG on the dirt on the pot and then watering. So I have done that ever since. No more mixing it in buckets for me. I love it. Fast and easy. LOL
I personally am looking for the magic elixirs. So if you find any, EMAIL ME!!! LOL. I have been gardening in this yard for over 30 years. I have mature trees all over that do not allow me to work in lots of good stuff anymore. I do dump compost on top, but lots of that gets washed away. I love the fun new stuff. Adds interest for me. Though to be honest, my problem is really everything grows too well. I now spend most of my gardening time besides watering, cutting my monsters back. My yard is overgrown to put it mildly! LOL. So many plants and so little room.
The best garden elixir for me was Preen. I was so late hearing about it. What a God send. I used to have to spend 1 day a weekend weeding. It has freed me from those chains. nNow if someone would come up with one to reduce the need for watering. LOL
Rj, I LOVE YOUR YARD!! I am suddenly into Aroids like crazy. I want all the big leaved ones. I find them so attractive. I need to figure out how to work them into an already overcrowded landscape. I am seriously thinking of going to our neighbor in back and making an offer for half his back yard. I have a huge Alocasia that has just gone nuts here. It is so elegant, They really need room so you can see them in all their splendor.
Kell you could use some of my yard.
Linda
And mine!!! LOL
Kell, how do you know how much MG to put on for the size of pot? And then you would have to get the right amount of water?
Sherry, the post office issue is there:
The post office already picks up if you go priority mail or better. Heck, they even send free boxes for priority mail.
Mary
Ok, I give up. Here I am cutting and pasting parts of this thread and rerunning them. Blaine suggested that we cut it off because of the dial-ups, of which I am one. But, I have been on threads where they have cut them up and they don't go anywhere after that. This has been so much fun. I will put it up for a vote. What do you all want to do? I will have to ask Dave to start a new one if you want. I think there is a trick to referrencing back to this one.
Problem is, we will have to start repeating what we wrote in this one. Maybe not though because we are coming into winter and our gardens and plants change. OR, we can keep it going and let it die a natural death into the winter months with the holidays etc.
What do you want to do?
Jeanette
IMOHO I say let it die a natural death. I think what really slows down a thread like this is the posting of pictures. What I can see there isn't that many photos posted. I went back and counted and I counted only 17 which isn't back for 346 post. There is so much information here I would hate not having it ready at hand.
I have only posted twice, but I sure have been doing a lot of reading.
Linda
I have no clue Jeanette, I garden like I cook. No recipe. I go by feel. Sometimes it is a disaster, sometimes it is grand. I haven't measured much in years. I drive my husband nuts who is a recipe man all the way. Even in the bucket, I never measure, I go by the color and by the plant I am fertilizing. Some I go heavy, some light. Though I have been shocked that I have not burned any of them even the small ones. MG must be mild.
I do try to water the day before though. And I would never do it to a dry plant. That being said I just did it to a dry brug 10 minutes ago. I used that super bloom on it as an experiment. It is wilted also. A huge NO NO. But I will water it in well to compensate. Let see if I cry tomorrow. You know I may go out and scoop some out. I haven't watered it yet for I am running the hose under a tree for awhile on the other side of the courtyard. So I have time to do a reprieve. LOL I think I will.
Start a new thread or not, matters not to me, Jeanette. But I will not reread this one again. LOL. Ever. But would love new posts!! I have learned tons.
Surely it's the pics that can bog down opening a thread but you'd be very surprised how long and far a thread will with a core group and then the driveby's and lurkers toss a few coins in now and then. When I first started on DG the fall of last year I ended up joining a merry band of seed snatchers! Here's a link to the latest thread. When one gets slow the originator opens a new thread and provides links in the old and new. We go back and pick up stragglers now and then. Well... the bus left without me a couple of times and someone came back and fetched me. :) I guess this runs back through 13 or 14 threads. How's that?
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/533992/
If it was my call, I'd say, open a new thread titled:
((Monika's Book Regarding Soil - PART 2))
OTOH, it's a rule in the south to never move a good party, they are never the same on the second shot. However, I do Garden Foes and the thread I like moves around and everyone just tags along and it works out great...
when the cheap neighbor runs out of beer it never seems like there's a problem for the herd to migrate to my garage. :)
As long as there's something going on
Somebody having a party???????...lolol....cheap beer and a garage??????....lolol...Judy
Well, I will wait for rj. Seems kinda like we all think there should be a new thread. Sherry's suggestion for title sounds good. 2 Pug, you can bookmark it, and/or we can always bump it up once in a while. You are all correct, in that there is a lot of good info here and a lot of fun.
Sherry, I guess I should have spent more time in the South. That was my thought. About moving a good party.
Hopefully will hear from rj sometime tonight. WLYAK. Jeanette
I wasn't aware that dial up had a problem with long threads! I won't post anymore pictures- or will start a new thread to post them. I'm okay with how it is though.
I've seen that thread seed snatching. I'm assuming it is about saving seeds, although when I was walking the dog today....there was this vine with yellow flowers hanging over the sidewalk, with, yes..a seed pod, and yes..I snatched it!
Kell, you cracked me up when I was reading about making an offer for part of your neighbors back yard! Only because I was sitting on the deck with friends one night and said the same thing. They have this huge back yard with weeds. My garden is very overgrown as well. It's amazing though how you can make an ordinary back yard into a maze of interesting trails. I love it when people come to the garden the first time and want to go explore. Thanks for the compliment ! Are you saying you just put a clump of MG on the pot then water it?
Sherry - you would be surprised how fast the brugs recover from "mishaps". How old is the brug? Does it get about 4 hours of sun a day? More? Some of mine don't bloom the first 2 years - which is what prompted me to the "pinch" test. Go pour some more stuff on that brug! :) I was thinking of you last week as the leaves were falling off 2 of my brugs after I sprayed them with ironite. I was quite dismayed at first, thinking...WHEN will I learn. But this week, they have recovered and it appears that all the unhealthy leaves were dropped. See how easily I justified that? :) they are looking much better thank goodness..
Jeanette - The priority post is about as much as the UPS - I think it's a wash there. I know this because I just shipped some Hibiscus fertilizer today and priority was twice as much. You know it gets there nearly as fast anyway. That project I started on the side of the green house is taking me more time than I thought. I get started out to that area - and end up getting side tracked 15 ways only to end up there a couple hours later!
I've been wanting to ask...being from Washington you'd think I would know. Where is Lone Wa. It has to be western if your picking huckleberries and blackberries.
You would love it here Blaine! All you said, our door is always open, plus, my hubby is a gourmet chef, as is our son, who lives two doors down, as well as my aunt, who lives next door, and the hubby's mother, who lives next door on the other side. Southern gourmet and it's addictive...I'm the wash/dog/project/flower/clean-up lady and it works out nicely...
I'm okay with a new one - I always wondered what "bump" meant - and where bump went to? Rj
Looks like the whole party is on at the same time!
Rj, I'm with you, LOL! I don't get *ump, so I try not to type it, like when your brug gets *umped, and a limb falls off, and you say the B word and all of a sudden you are at the top of the forum. How does 'whoever' know when the B word is typed and what to do with it when it is??!!
I don't know. You know when I post my ee up there. I was typing "you can see my "--and then chose my words carefully "garden hoe" next to the ee. It looked funny with the garden missing in the sentence. :)