The Dead Lawn Society

Moab, UT(Zone 6b)

Yep, I often do and sometimes you can tell which plants don't have 'em. I add all kinds of stuff to my blow sand property when I'm planting, sometimes I say it's just to slow the water down. Coupla summers and ya can dig down and find it 'all gone' almost as if it had never been added.

Actually that's probably why the lawn wasn't doing so well to start with. So much sand blows in and is caught by the grass that the local cemetery has to lift and re-set headstones every few years.

The world is an amazing place ain't it ~Blooms

Santa Ana, CA(Zone 9b)

Julie, are you still here?

Is Blooms right? Your kids play in the dichondra? Or you have other lawn with grass where they play? I had a piece of dichondra once (came with the house); if the hose lay on it for a few hours, the yellow line would be there for months. Parts would die if you crossed your eyes at it... Now, you don't get that much more rain than we do (do you?) -- are you watering every day?

~'spin!~

Modi'in, Israel

My kids and dog play all over mine. But I seem to remember someone here (dont' know if it was you or not) saying that their Dichondra gets flowers. It's obviously a different species than mine as this one doesn't flower at all. The GCs called this Dichondra micrantha I believe, but I can check again to see. The EofGP says that D. micrantha does indeed flower. Perhaps what we have here is a modified cultivar that doesn't flower? In any case, yes, if I leave a pot on it or rock ro what have you for a few days, it will kill the Dichondra underneath. But for me, it comes back within a week or two thick as ever...with regular watering that is. We couldn't have dichondra here in summer any more than we could have grass without a sprinkler system. But the kids have worn tracks in the grass where they play soccer with their father and under the swing set. But despite the heavy traffic on the dichondra, there aren't any spots worn on it....on the path leading to the upstairs garden, nor in the upstairs garden itself. It's really tough as nails and comes back faster and prettier than our grass if it gets killed (like the example above). Our grass takes constant and long-term care to repair even the smallest of damaged spots. It took me the 3 months to repair the grass in the back garden that had been killed due to a month long water sprinkler malfunction in late June-mid July. The Dichondra, with the same sprinkler malfunction, came back in just a week. And it never needs mowing! :-)

-Julie

Santa Ana, CA(Zone 9b)

Oh, it's pretty alright, but since my experience at previous house, I just kinda thought of it as a "look don't touch" ground cover. It's for sure that a "proper" mowed grass lawn takes LOTS of care and is not all that forgiving, either... and it's more than possible that the hose lay there more than "a few hours"

Santa Cruz Mountains, CA(Zone 9a)

I am probably not a candidate for the Society since we have never had a lawn since we moved to this mountain 30 years ago. What prompts me to post is a notion from the dichondra discussion.

I must preface this by saying things are pretty wild and native around here. No neighbors to chide us. What we do have are identifiable deer trails. One runs right outside the window in front of me where I am typing this now. It is dark so if they are there, I don't know it; but it is a pleasure to look up and see one ambling by. As a matter of fact, many of the roads through these mountains were based on the route "planning" the deer population generated hundreds of years ago.

How does this impact the dichondra discussion? Maybe paths or patterns in the dichondra, or whatever, that reflect the human activity that occurs there would lift the spirit, prompt one to think that this patch of earth is used and loved. How bad would it be to look out your window and see that family had been there (or are there now)?

The glossy magazine look of perfection is seductive. Give me the real world instead.

Modi'in, Israel

What a lovely point of view :-)My untidy garden will fall into your definition of "loved" anytime day of the year LOL

-Julie

Moab, UT(Zone 6b)

Poppy, I like that ''no neighbors to chide us'' - The mess I'm trying to turn into a desert with oasis is large and what I'm doing is small steps at a time. The results are mostly in my mind... which keeps running off with Tazzy's to play.

The neighbors definitely have no idea I'm even doing anything...... what I call a light hand. So far it's mostly removal gardening. Like de-weeding the introduced nasties, yet leaving every desert mallow plant or seedling.

It meant doing it myself, as hired hands tend to go whole hog and take down every thing. With the mustard and cheat grass removed it was really great to see how many of the mallows were there for my coming desert scape.

It'll look like a piece of out there moved in next door. The tough part is getting rid of and then controlling the weed grasses and tumbleweed like plants that love disturbed ground. So easy to say. ~Blooms

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

bump :- )

Taylor Creek, FL(Zone 10a)

All right John, you're gonna remind me that I still need to roll that RU on my DG, so I can really have a dead lawn to replant with goodies.
I have a used paint runner cartridge after painting my BR last week, and will see if I can use that to put the RU right where I want it.
I saw some of my Hosta Liner roots bare today, so I'll put new soil on them In the morning.
Just in case anyone's interested, the Alminac said today and tomorrow are great to start seeds.
Sidney

Rocky Mount, VA(Zone 7a)

will do today - very late as it is - Dyson

Modi'in, Israel

Sugarweed, I read a nice tip several months ago (so I dont' remember who to give credit to) about using a cup or jar to hold the RU and then painting it on with a small paintbrush (like kids would use for watercoloring). This eliminates all worry of it flying about in the wind like it does when you spray it. And you can control the drips fairly well too so long as you are patient and don't get too rushed. I did it in an area where I had about 50 gazillion baby weeds coming up in a bed where I just couldn't spray as I'd end up killing all my lovely big plants too. It worked like a charm. One bruch across each of the baby weeds, they all died never came back and my big plants weren't affected one little bit :-)

Hope this helps.

-Julie

Taylor Creek, FL(Zone 10a)

Julie,
Yes, that's the idea here.
I have a paint roller you put a quart of paint inside the roller head, thus putting it where I want it.
The plan is use some water soluable paint to dilute my RU concentrate so I can tell where I put it.
This is a large area, 15' x 90'. I will then turn it and supplement it, and plant it right to the edges.
It's totally partial shade under 3 huge live oaks.
It's the area right behind me in this photo http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1256287
I love that shovel.
Sidney
PS I am not as wide as that picture makes me look.

Modi'in, Israel

Oh I can see what you mean. I thought you meant just getting rid of a few weeds! WOW! That is a big space. Yep, it's either a sprayer or a roller....no small paint brush would work there. Well, I suppose it would, but only if you wanted to be bending over weeds playing "Nature Painter" for the next few years! LOL. And you don't look wide at all! You look very cute :-)

-Julie

Taylor Creek, FL(Zone 10a)

Well God has been veeeery good to me, 58, doin great. lol
Thanks

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

Yes, He has. :-)

Taylor Creek, FL(Zone 10a)

aw shucks I,m blushing now!;>)

Hixson, TN(Zone 7a)

Can I join I have no grass just displaced wild flowers AKA WEEDS ANd MUDD.LOL

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

You bet. That qualifies!

Taylor Creek, FL(Zone 10a)

Absolutely, I want to become famous as the lady who just had so many flowers she didn't know what to do, so she fed em and pnched them and put em in beds til one day she snipped their little dead heads. No grass around here. Sidney

Moab, UT(Zone 6b)

Sidey love the lyric to the 'no lawn song'
cceamore, sounds like you have the perfect reciept
displaced wild flowers is a wonderful sound to the ears also.

Modi'in, Israel

Hey all. If you want to get rid of your grass, just invite a bunch of House Sparrows at nesting time. Today I saw the funniest thing (probably those of you who are wiser to teh ways of birds will think this is commonplace ;-). Some House Sparrows were picking grass in big bunches with their beaks like tiny little hay gatherers. It was just amazing to watch. Within a five minute period of me having nothing better to do, I watched about 20 of them clear out a 1 meter patch of weed grass that was growing in the shopping center I was at. They'd come, rip out a centimeter strip, fly away to somewhere I couldn't see, come back and rip out more....and they just kept at it with such an intensity it was spellbinding. At least for me and my 3 year old it was ;-).

Sooo to keep this on topic, just hire a bunch of House Sparrows to clear your lawn of grass. ;-) Or better yet, advertise "Free Lawn Grass......Take as much as you can pick!"

-Julie

Moab, UT(Zone 6b)

:-))

Taylor Creek, FL(Zone 10a)

;>) Be back shortly with pictures.

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

We wait!

Taylor Creek, FL(Zone 10a)

Well, found a can of latex "oops" from HD that I often purchase for $3. for creative craft projects.
I tried mixing 6oz RU concentrate, 1/2 gal paint and 1/2 gal water.
One friend drove by twice to see if she could believe her own eyes from the first time.
LOL

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Taylor Creek, FL(Zone 10a)

It does't seem to even affected the bugle weed or any thing else. I will be painting it on today without the latex paint.
When I get the weeds out, I'm planting with Brugs, Hostas, Impomea, and all sort's of other non grass plants.
There are 3 "Live Oak" trees.
My friend Betty said "But what kind of oaks are they?"
lol, lol

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Moab, UT(Zone 6b)

wonder why it didn't do in the bugle weed?? kills morning glory weeds. hmmph. Good on ya Sugar. it will be gorgeous planted with hostas and Brugs. ~Blooms

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

Probably needs more time, Blooms.

Santa Fe, TX(Zone 9b)

We sure would like to be rid of most of our grass. There are about a dozen types here, the worst is the "needle" grass that is too tough for just about any mower. Have to go over it 2 or 3 times to knock it back, then in 2 days it comes back to 6 inches tall. We have tried deep gravel, even making rocks and the stuff grows on anything. We are in the process of planting the Evergreen Wisteria everywhere, hoping the dense shade will get the stuff.

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

Don't get me wrong. I like grass as a plant! Just don't like having a lawn to have to mow. Like to make hay though and, manage pasture and rangeland. I am a confused person.

Moab, UT(Zone 6b)

Hey, I love a patch of soft green lawn. Just can't handle the water it takes in the desert. Rather have flowers. More and More yards here are switching to less needful plantings. It's really becoming quite colorful.

Gordonville, TX(Zone 7b)

A 'patch' is good. Doesn't even take much water.

Cape Cod, MA(Zone 7a)

I'm keeping some lawn for the grandkids to crawl around on, but I'd rather have more room for plants. I don't water it, and it is weedy but it doesn't bother me.

Taylor Creek, FL(Zone 10a)

Dadgum, I hope the kids are tough. at least weed-eat it. LOL

Moab, UT(Zone 6b)

She lives in Cape Cod, God does the watering there, Sugar.

Taylor Creek, FL(Zone 10a)

It's the weeds Blooms, and I was just kidding. I love her gardens and post.

Moab, UT(Zone 6b)

ROFL

Cape Cod, MA(Zone 7a)

:)

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Don't know how I missed this thread, but I've been lawn free for over 10 years. No mowers or lawn trimmers needed at my house. I just keep widing beds until they all joined up. Now the whole yard is my playground. Much more fun!

Susan

Hmmm, expanding/widening beds until they all meet??? Sounds vunderva to me! I'm on a 10 year phase out program these days. Little strokes fell great oaks and all. I did get rid of more lawn this year but not as much as I would have liked to eliminate. I like that phrase "Lawn Free". I'll have to remember that one. Very good Susan!

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