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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Here is Brugmansia Ecuador Pink:

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Here's is Brugmansia Frosty Pink:

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

I have lots more pictures, but I won't post any more here since this is really a Passiflora thread. Come on over to the Brug Forum and say hello to everyone. Everyone is sure to greet you with open arms. You can get lots of advice over there too on how to grow them and care for them. They are heavy feeders so they need lots of fertilizer in the spring and summer to produce lots of flowers.

Here is a double white:

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Garner, NC(Zone 7a)

oh my word this is the BEST thread!!!....I enjoyed every single post and its so informative...
I have tried several times to raise these vines to no avail but I've gotten lots of ideas from here.....thanks
hugz
Lexy

Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Glad to have you Jeff and Lexy,Clare has been a angel on this thread.
Clare I wished I'd taken a pic of the vine I sent you today,it was the cutting in the jar in the laundry tub,would it be possible to take a pic of it when it arrives and post it for me.
I wished I'd had a bigger box to send it in!LOL!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hi there, Lexy! I'm glad you like this thread. I like it too:-)

Hi there, Tropicman. Ah, shucks, you're so sweet to me. I love it. Yes, of course, I will take a picture of it when it arrives. I am so excited to receive it. That is wonderful that you were able to root it. You really do have a green thumb. I hope you are able to root the cuttings that I'm sending you, but if not, I also have some that I'm trying to root, and I'm rooting them your way -- a jar of water in a tub of water, and I have a plastic bag over the top. So far, they all look great! I guess we shall see. The weather is warming up considerably, which I think will help the rooting process, I hope! JD is sending me some Oasis cubes so I'll try with those this spring:-) Thanks, JD!

Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

Hey all!
I just got off the phone w/ rootdoctor! I just keep getting more and more incredible suprises from you all. I've never seen such kindness anywhere else on the web.
Tropicman Look out buddy, Bob says we're gonna visit you this fall!LOL I get down your way quite a bit on my way to Oklahoma City and Lake Texhoma. Maybe I can drop by sooner if we hit it off that well;)

Clare, I tried to track that # you gave me but the site said they only update the list until evening. It did mention you had sent it, just not when it was due here. I've been hanging out this am hoping to run into you. I'm going to the store for Oasis cubes, Clonex and maybe some more Superthrive(thats another wonderful aid when cuts aren't taking well.). Its a hormone that tells the plant that its time to root NOW and not to waste our time by trying to grow foliage etc..LOL Programming cuttings w/ hormones, how cool.
I'll catch up w/ you later.
Adios, JD

Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Thanks Clare your a doll!
JD,your welcome anytime,you have to pass my house on your way to oak city,I'm about a mile from the turnpike,so won't be out of your way any.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

JD,
That is so cool. Rootdoctor is a great person and kind and generous. Ditto for Tropicman. That would be great if all three of you can get together. You all have a lot in common.

JD, I just sent you an email. The U.S.P.S. tracking system is worthless because it doesn't track the package! All it says is when the postage was purchased and then when the package was delivered. Hopefully, you will get it by tomorrow. I'm sorry I missed you earlier. I do use Superthrive and love it, especially for easing transplant shock, but I've never used it to root cuttings. I guess I should start! I thought it was mostly vitamins; I didn't realize that it had hormones too! I can't wait for my Oasis cubes:-)

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Don, thank you so, so, so much for sending me your long-fingered Passiflora. I am so happy to receive this one. I always have room in my garden for new Passifloras! And also, thank you very much for the P. ligularis.

Here's what Don sent me:

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Here's a close-up of the long-fingered one:

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Here's a picture that I found on the web of the P. ligularis:

http://www.hear.org/pier/imagepages/singles/paligp39.htm

Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Clare ,
I guess it made it ok for being in a box for a couple days,wasn't sure how it would look,being the vine is over 6ft,and I didn't have a big enough box to ship it in.
Did the little seedling of ligularis make it as well as the long fingered vine?
Great pictures too!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Don, yes, both Passifloras look wonderful and did just fine in the box. You packed them really well. I put them the P. ligularis in a small container. It is in front of the large one in the first picture. It's hard to see.

Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Clare thanks for opening up my eyeballs,see it now!!!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

JD, I just sent you an email. Hopefully, you've got your package in your hands, and you are busy unpacking!

Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

YAWN!
Hiya Clare and all. I'm feeling over whelmed in the middle of getting all the passiflora cuts into trays and under a humidity dome. We have soo little room in this house, I'm gonna be sleeping w/ these plants! LOL Doing this reminded me of something that anyone who's dealing w. wilty cuttings.
ALL:
Clare.
I'm taking a break now. I'm about to break out the lights and heat mats. Since its still so cold here and we have the heater running, its trying to suck all the life out of these babies so domes are a must. I'll be misting them a bunch too.
Well I wanted to tell you alls well here and to tell you all about how awesome that Maxicrop can be. My cubes are all presoaked and ready to be stuffed.
I'll talk w/ you all later;)
Jeff

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

That's great, Jeff! Post pictures when you can so we can all see what they look like! This should be a fun experiment. Tropicman is rooting some, and I am too so it will be fun to compare notes. Ready, set, go!

Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Clare,here's the cuttings you sent me yesterday.

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Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Close up of cuttings in water,in bucket full of water with plastic bag cover,also put drops of superthrive in with cuttings
to see if it makes any differene.

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Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Here is cuttings in soil,with an inch of water in bucket with cover for extra humidity.

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Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Heres cuttings in soil with cups acting as dome lids for the greenhouse affect.

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Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Tomato vines looking good just need some sun and heat.

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Fabulous pictures, Don. I can hardly wait to hear about your results.

By the way, I think your HG and your Golfito will be fine without any humidity, but I suppose that it can't hurt them as long as you give them some air circulation. They were both in separate one-gallon containers outside in the open air in part shade. They do like warmth, but they will not dry out easily, but they are susceptible to rot in soil so keep the soil on the dry side. They have been doing well even when it is in the 40's at night. You know best.

Your tomatoes look fantastic!

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Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Thanks Clare,
I just wanted them to get some extra humidity from the shipment time,they were just a little limp, but perked up fine,I can probably take the cover off now!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

See, I told you that you know best:-) That little Golfito is so small. If you lose her, I'll send you another one this summer.

Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

Man half of my previous post was deleted, are we not supposed to recomend products or brand names?
Clare, I have everyone where they're supposed to be and things are looking pretty good. Have you had much luck rooting passiflora's w/ just 1 leaf on a stem? Most of these are like that but they have really perked up. This will be a great experiment, I've never rooted any Passiflora's this way(w/ Oasis cubes and rooting gel). I also took 1 of the Brug Suaveolens and did it this way too. So now we will know which method of rooting Brugs is the fastest or best. I had never even heard of a brug until talking to you and rootdoc. Now after looking around, the wife and I are hooked and look forward to growing and trying to hybridize them. From what I've seen, it looks like a lot of people do it w/o too much hassle. I can't wait to cross pollinate some of the Passiflora's. I had to hand pollinate my first 1 and it took well.
BTW Clonex gel has been off the shelf for 9 months!!! The gal told me Clonex violated some law about not putting the ingredients on the labels or the like. They had another brand of gel and I was told she's had nothing but positive remarks on it. It's just under 20$ per bottle and its called "Rootech".
I'm posting a few pics of my techniques, we should move all of these pics to "Propigation". That's an option anyhow. These pics were taken w/ my 8mm camcorder and edited to still photo's w/ movie maker. I'll take better pics later w/ a digicam. This pic shows the humidity level inside the domes I use.

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Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

Close up of cubes and Brug cutting

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Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

I know this looks like hell but up close they look so much better than when I opened the box.

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Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

Pink Bower vine looking great

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Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

Charles Grimaldi

Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

OOPS.
Charles

Olathe, KS(Zone 6a)

I dont know why this didn't take the 1st. time.
Tropicman, I love the way your doing the larger cuts. Do you ever have problems w/ low humidity? If so, I've seen that same technique but they put an air pump/airstone bubbling in there. It creates a superfine mist that borders on a vapor. Just a thought, things are looking great.

I water and mist my cuts daily w/ a solution of Maxicrop and Superthrive. This combination is like magic practically. I also use it on plants that I forgot to water. The plants can be totally limp from dehydration and a good spray of that mix has the standing at attn. in less than 1 hour!! I bet Tropicman can tell some good stories about Superthrive too.

I forgot to mention I'm using heat mats under all of those pics. In a few days, I'll put a different dome on those cuts. The new domes are exactly the same except I cut a little square about 2"x2". This starts weaning the plants off the massive humidity and lets air start circulating. By the end of 1 week or sooner(depending on how things look) I should be seeing roots shooting from the bottoms of the cubes. I'll have the domes off completely aswell. I forgot to add a thin layer of vermiculite along the bottom of the tray darnit. That helps even out the heat and humidity and gives the roots an place to aim/reach for. By day 10 at the latest, roots will have grown through the cubes and into the vermiculite.
Come transplanting time, I'll have a lot of roots in the cubes and dangling from the cubes. Now I have cubes to hold onto for transplanting, I don't have to touch the roots and they don't get any transplant shock. The cubes will eventually disolve.
Well it's a pretty nice day here and the wife is giving me that "look" I get from too much time on the computer.
I'll post more pictures soon and all through the week till we transplant these babies;)
Adios, JD

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Jeff, Wow, great pictures! Thanks for sharing those. I am really impressed with all the work you have been doing.

By the way, you are allowed to mention most anything that you want here, except expletives and vulgar language, so your post wasn't deleted by the webmaster. Perhaps it was some sort of technical malfunction. Feel free to type it again if you are able to. Recommend all you want to!

Yes, I usually find that, if I remove all the lower leaves, only one leaf is left at the top. Sometimes, if there are two small ones, I will leave them as they are. Sometimes, if the leaves at the top are big, I cut them in half or tear them. I'm sure I cut some of your leaves to reduce them in size. Ultimately, they fall off, but if the cutting is rooting, new ones will come in. I think Tropicman prefers to leave two leaves at the top.

I think your cuttings look great. I'm sorry they didn't look great when you got them out of the box. I enclosed some of them in that plastic zippered bag so they would stay moist and fresh. I don't know why it took three days to get to you when it took only two days to Kansas. Perhaps three days was just too long for unrooted cuttings.

Well, I hope they root for you! This gives you a challenge any way.


Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

JD, your Charles Grimaldi looks great! You can pull off any wilted or damaged leaves; you should grow fresh leaves in no time. How about Frosty Pink?

I think you are going to beat Don and me and root them faster than we will. Will you really get roots in a week? I don't expect to see roots for another month or so, but perhaps your way is faster because of the bottom heat and the way you are rooting them. I think that, the faster they will root, the more success you are bound to have.

I really look forward to seeing your success!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

JD, I can see from your pictures that I did crop some of your leaves. Here is what the leaves of P. Morifolia really look like. They are the ones that look like Oak leaves.

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

P. Amethystina leaves are big and fat:

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

P. Lady Margaret, P. Incense, and P. Belottii leaves are medium-sized. P. Belottii and P. Incense should root fairly easily, but P. Lady Margaret is a challenge. This is P. Incense. P. Incense has five-fingered leaves, whereas the others have three.

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Bushland, TX(Zone 6a)

Yep Clare that jeffs has a system down huh?
Well the heating mat will make 50% of rooting time faster than us!!!
Jeff,I tried the air pump method on some passiflora cuttings,after a month the stems were all muchy although theleaves were in good shape,I read somewhere on cuttings with thick stems sometimes they get hollow at the ends and you need to stuff wax on the cutting ends,so they won't
rot.I keep the humidity level about 70% in my greenhouse and sunroom.
Started hardening off plants today,as long as nite temps stay around the 40* range,I can leave some of the hardier plants
outside.
Jeff were are you getting your domes and other supplies?
And you never answered my return e-mail about what other plants you are interested in.
Clare has the increased sun and heat done any damage to your plants?

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hi Don, I haven't noticed any damage to them. Most of the "sensitive tropicals" get filtered sun anyway on my back patio.

It will be fun to compare our rooting progress:-) Now that the days are getting warmer and longer, I'm going to try some outside in water in the open air to see how they do.

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