Greetings all. I would like to introduce myself....

St. Petersburg, FL(Zone 10b)

First my handle is the DoW-Oldman. What this stands for is Dogs Of War, and my name being Oldman. This comes from my on-line gaming. Currenty gaming Mechwarrior4 Mercs. I enjoy graphical work. I own 3 web-sites. My gaming, business, and my wife's school site. We own a commercial only carpet cleaning business, and my wife is a school teacher of 31 years currently in one school.

I live in St. Petersburg Florida. I'm a container gardener who make his own "Growth Containers." Same idea as an Earthbox but mine are much larger. In fact, I have two that are 8 feet long, 30 inches wide and 24 inches deep. The are auto filling as well as self-watering.

I'm a life-long smoker who is totally an organic gardener...now that is contrast LOL! My past gardens have been mostly vegtables. Today I'm moving into more fruits. I currently have 30 pineapple plants with 3 fruiting at the moment. A nice rosemary bush. I also have black berries, 3 types of bananas, Key lime, Mango and other fruits. I will be adding soon figs. All of these are grown in my containers. I also have a 50 year old Duncan (white) grapefruit tree in the ground along with a base orange tree (larger very sour.)

I compost and I mixed my own soiless mixture. To date I have containers that have earth worms in them. Not the red worms you purchase but just a common ground worm. Which is a statment that with the correct organic foods, and composting a soiless mixture can become alive!

I've spent the past couple of days ghosting here and I must say I'm pleased with finding this place. From what I've read it looks like we all have one thing in common....we are just people looking to have some fun growing what others kill!

Well I've said enough. Before I close should anyone here need any help in creating a growth container just yell at me. (minor@tampabay.rr.com)

In closing I leave this thread with my sig-pic! From it you will learn more about me than these words have said.
Looking forward to your postings, and Good Growing!
Olds

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Camilla, GA(Zone 8a)

Welcom to DG..A nice place to be.. Love the dog..
Larkie

Mercer, PA(Zone 5a)

Well, howdy there DoW_Oldman and a big welcome to DAVE'S GARDEN!!

I still consider myself a neophyte around here too as I've only been a member since May of this year. But I'm learnin all the great "stuff" available here pretty quick as I'm shore you will too.

I noticed you said yer from Flowreeda in yer intro, but the state under yer name (in the left pane there) says Joe-ga (GA). I reckon ya either mis-typed that on yer preferences page or it's an administrative typo, go figger.
Edited to say that the Florida vs Georgia discrepancy has been resolved.

I'll give ya little wornin 'bout my "typin accent"; sometimes it may be just a tad hard to unnerstand but I type in a Kentucky accent. Don't let this confuse ya.
That's where I call home really, I consider myself displaced up here among all these Yankees (no offense meant to my fellow Yankee gardeners).

Mighty fine lookin animal ya got there with ya in the foto? Izzat a Boxer breed?

Again, Welcome aboard Olds! (Don't happen to drive around in one of them there fancy Olds' 98's do ya?)

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Jonesboro, GA(Zone 7b)

LOL - TC, you are too much!! "Growth Containers", tell us more Oldman - are they Hypertufa?? We need pics!!

Allen Park, MI(Zone 6a)

Welcome to DG, glad to meet you.

Paul

Franklin, LA(Zone 9a)

Welcome to DG, DoW-Oldman, from South Louisiana.

Shall we call you 'Oldman' or 'Dog' or what? And do tell us about these Growth Containers ... sounds mighty interesting.

Cheri'

Welcome to DG from southwestern Colorado!

Welcome to DG! And yes please tell us more about these Growth Containers, please.

Crossville, TN

Welcome from a Displaced Floridian...was in Homosassa Springs...now in Southern Arizona!! I know St.Pete very well...lovely area. Perhaps I'll get to meet ya'll when I come to Florida in the spring. Jo

Seymour, IN(Zone 5b)

Welcome from a Hoosier! Great Pic. I know you will enjoy this site. It's the best and shows the best of gardeners everywhere. Lou

Frederick, MD(Zone 6a)

Welcome! Love your staffie - a beaut! I know nothing about 'gaming' but will always be happy to answer something I do know about - now what is that topic? LOL Again, welcome!

Panhandle, FL(Zone 8a)

Hey doW, welcome from the Florida Panhandle, you know, LA, Lower Alabama, Redneck Riviera. I would love to hear about your containers.

Ewing, KY(Zone 6a)

Welcome to DG.What a great dog.I would love to hear about your containers too!

Efland, NC(Zone 7a)

Welcome DOW...ST Pete, eh? I've stomped around there a bit. (Born in Bradenton.)

Will be watching for your posts! sit back and enjoy!

Panhandle, FL(Zone 8a)

Horseshoe, born in Bradenton? They wear shoes there.

Woodburn, OR(Zone 8a)

Welcome from Oregon, Olds! I'm waiting for some pics of your containers, what a beautiful dog!!! I have an Amstaff named Emma, she's camera shy, her ears always go straight back when I'm trying to get her to pose.

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Panhandle, FL(Zone 8a)

Carena, now that is a pretty face!

cape may court house, NJ(Zone 6a)

Welcome to DG:
It's a great place as you will soon find out.
Love your dog, looks like you do also.
Anxious to read your posts, I can only imagine!
Sandy

Plymouth, MI(Zone 6a)

Hello from Mi.......Would love to see some of your containers! Your gonna like it here!
Meems

Efland, NC(Zone 7a)

Weeds, no shoes needed in B-ton. I was on the island most of the time!

Panhandle, FL(Zone 8a)

Watched those crabs in the water....will get your toes.

Efland, NC(Zone 7a)

I know they will. (When I left FLA yrs ago I transferred that knowledge to "don't skinny-dip in the turtle pond". Could be painful also.

Panhandle, FL(Zone 8a)

Hmmm, that is a higher level thinking skill....

(Zone 5a)

Welcome and that's a mighty handsom baby you have there in your photo.

Fayette, MO(Zone 6a)

Olds, welcome and looks like a great dog!

Grove City, OH(Zone 6a)

Olds, welcome from an OH person. I am also a (almost completely) organic gardener who treasures earthworms in my pots. Now if I could just find a way to keep out the slugs...

St. Petersburg, FL(Zone 10b)

Much thanks all to the welcome to this place!

Next my dog is a Red Nose American Pit Bull. We have a boxer. She is a little different as she is a long nose boxer. Her name is Bonnie, and his is Skyway. See pix below.

Now as to all of the request for information concerning the in's and out's of growth containers go to "Hybertext" listed below. It contains 11 pictures total. The first six address how I made my 8 foot growth containers. The next one will show you a side view of another type of growth container.

If you are dial up it will take a minute or so for all of these images to download to you. However, if you're interested in this type of growing I assure you it will be worth the wait. I would have posted them here--this board--but due to the limitation of one pix per posting it would not get-er-done.

http://www.dow-mgc.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/turret/dow/iB3/ikonboard.cgi?s=c3df642ec18dab4c66fb24fca1ac4776;act=ST;f=1;t=1156

Oh ya the question about what to call me... just call me Olds!

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Cochrane, ON(Zone 2b)

Olds, a hearty welcome from Northern Ontario, Canada. Checked out your link & that is mighty impressive. Sounds like your containers are very productive. Love the dogs. You are going to have a great time here at DG. Great people.

(Zone 5a)

Hey Old thanks for the info. Bonnie and Skyway are beautiful, you'll find a lot of pet lovers here. Why don't you sneak over to the pet forum and check out all the folk that just would love to meet your babies.

Tonasket, WA(Zone 5a)

Welcome Olds from WA. You will i am sure enjoy and alsom make a lot of friends with DG. Nice looking dog friends you have. I have a Llahso Apso, very smart, very stubborn. Donna aka rutholive

St. Petersburg, FL(Zone 10b)

Carena!
Sorry I ment to say how nice your baby looks. I've never heard of an "Amstaff" before...sorry. She looks to me like a pretty hazeled eyed Pit! :) Not to meantion the look of a woman who could have an attidude! LOL!
Olds

Woodburn, OR(Zone 8a)

She is ALL attitude!! Amstaff is short for American Staffordshire Terrier. Most people refer to her as a Pit. She's maybe a little lighter boned, but otherwise I don't think there's much difference. The terrier in her is very noticeable, she's always in full alert mode, but I love her madly!

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Shalimar, FL(Zone 8a)

Welcome, Olds-from another NW FL/Lower AL gardener! I love the pix of your doggies! And the boxes are amazing! How do you make a soiless mix?

St. Petersburg, FL(Zone 10b)

Carena... your baby looks well defined. I'm guessing she is large for a female. About 60 pounds.

JenniferG I will address your question when I get back in tonight or tomarrow. First tell me if you are an organic garderner or use chemical fertilizers. I can give you a receipe for either. Both have common items. However, organic mixture has items in it that the other does not.

Olds

BTW I'm not sure this is the correct place to post this information. Is there a posting board I should be using instead? Or is this one ok? If there is a different board I should be using I will Hyperlink that thread here.

Spring Hill, FL(Zone 9a)

Hi and welcome DoW-Oldman. You should really quit smoking..lol.. but as long as you do it outdoors I guess it's alright. You're gonna like it here!

So.App.Mtns., United States(Zone 5b)

Olds, First, Welcome to DG... Second, there IS a Forum called 'Welcome Mat' where regulars lurk to welcome new members. However, this one is also fine, as you can tell by the responses.

When you have time, you should peruse ALL the Forums to see what they are all about, and 'subscribe' to all that interest you. I subscribe to many, reply to a few, and change my interests (forum choices) several times a year, depending on the season and my moods.

Crossville, TN

I have all the forums checked...I might miss something. That doesn't mean I look at them all, but If I WANT to they are there. I may want to know how to save seeds one of these days...and there it is!! LOL Jo

Baker City, OR(Zone 5b)

Welcome Olds! The guidelines here are kind of loose compared to other places, sometimes the management will move a thread to another forum where it will get more responses. Some of the threads do get off topic now and then. We have a great variety of forums so most every topic will probably fit somewhere. If you don't know where to put something park it in General Discussion. I'll be looking forward to the information you have to share.

Shalimar, FL(Zone 8a)

Hey Olds! Gosh! I guess I've been a chemical user - but would love to move closer to the organic world. Seems like Florida gardening presents one battle with something after another!

St. Petersburg, FL(Zone 10b)

JenniferG,
First, I looked up where in Florida you live. I see you live in an area where it freezes from time to time. IMO that is good and bad. Good in the area that it helps to control certain types of insects etc. Bad in the repect for me in that having to heat 30 plus pineapple plants to keep them from freezing would be a problem. Plus my best gardens are in my winter to late spring, as summer heat here puts a hurting on a lot things I enjoy growing.

I take it from your question that you are a container gardener or you are interested in container gardening. Also you expressed some interest into organics. As such my reply will be of some lenght. Before I get into my soilless mixture I going to cover a few basic items I hold as truths. (If you are aware of the following please skip this section and go to the soilless mixture at the bottom.)

Container gardening is a Micro-Society that you have much control over. However, beyond the obvious need for the "Four food groups" ( fertilizer, water, sunlight, and air) we need to understand the following.

1.) Problems often occur within a container of soilless media due to their high soluble salts from the use of chemical fertilizers. This is why many container garndeners change out there mixture. This is not a big problem if you are growing a tomatoe plant in a 5 gallon bucket. Once the plant is dead you can take the mixture in the bucket and add it to your in-ground garden. However, it is a big problem should you be growing a perennial and you don't want to change out that mixture. Yes I have heard folks say..."Well all you have to do is flush out the salts with massive water." The problem with that is you are then messing with the Micor-Society-hopefully-you have worked at creating in your containers. i.e. the beneficial bateria, worms etc.

2.) Next containers can become anaerobic--This is to say that what will now grow in your pot will not requiring air or oxygen for life. These types of items are the wrong things have in a container. i.e. pathogens, molds, not to mention root rot. Now most clay type containers will breath to some degree. However, plastic containers do not. Many container have a "water foot" they sit on. (Like a dish under a pot.) When using a plastic container sitting on a water-foot with no aeration holes you are already starting out on the wrong foot.

3.) While pH is important to all types of growing, in a container it is more critical. If the pH drops below 5.0 and the aeration is inadequate, beneficial bacteria and fungi diminish, and many pathogens begin to proliferate.

Now in truth, container gardening is easy and simple once we understand these basic 3 rules I have listed above. Plus you can eliminate so many problems with a container. I'm not trying to say that my methodology of container gardening is the only way. However, it works, and it works very well. .

Once I set up a container the hard part is over with. In my mixture I start out with enough organic fertilizers that I don't really have to worried for the season other than some light side dressing. In fact I add nothing to my pineapples in the way of hard fertilizers.

I do add Fish extract to my water.(one half ounce per gallon of water--all plants) Once per month I will add 2 tablespoons of old-fashioned blackstrap molasses into a gallon of water for my tomatoes. (One gallon per container.) I will foliage spray all plants once per week with Seaweed extract. (One ounce per gallon of water.)

Under any plant where black spot or fungus is prone to be a problem I scatter straight corn meal. (But not under tomatoe plants. Corn meal = more nitrogen.) For most fungi ( powery mildew etc) I give my plants a Bicarb---plain old baking soda! I mix it 2 to 3 teaspoons with 2 to 3 tablespoons of SunSpary Ultrafine Oil per gallon of water.

I compost using a composter that sits on a foot that collects the compost tea during the process of composting. I also use this compost tea as a foliage spray and will add it to the water if I feel a plant is in trouble. I delute my tea to the color of light drinking tea. Never apply it non-deluted as it will damage your plant.

My base soilless mixture

3 parts Ground pine bark (I run it through a chipper)
2 parts sphagnum moss
1 part Perlite /Vermiculite
1/2 part builders sand.
1 pint dolomite lime per bushel of soil mix
I do not use any wetting agents. This means you will have to really work at getting this mixture wet. Once it is wet don't let it dry out. Next I add, a good inch of mature compost to the top of my filled containers.

My base Fertilizer:

2 parts blood meal
1 part fish meal
2 parts bonemeal
4 parts rock phosphate
6 parts greensand.
1/2 part kelp meal

Now how much of this base fertilizer you are going to use is based on the size of your container. I mix in a lot. For example in a container that is 42" X 30" X 22" I add 6 quarts. I mix this fertilizer though out the whole container. Top to bottom--side to side.

Remember unlike synthetic fertilizers most organic fertilizers are nonburning. This mixture will not burn your plants. One time I turn around wrong (LOL) and added a second 6 quarts. The plants did just fine in that double mixture.

The real trick is to compost. I make sure my containers always have at least one inch of mature compost at all times. By doing so your soilless mixture one day will be come a health Micro-Society. When that happens just add a few regular earth worms. Do you know that worms are what I call reverse eaters? Unlike us, when they eat they put back more into the Society than they took out! You just give them mature compost and you will have the best living fertilizer factory in town! (When you get to adding a few worms make sure to add a few more ounces of builder sand. They need it to digest.)

A full Micro-Society will give your plants such a boost that folks with say to you...Wow you must have one hecka a green thumb. When someone says that to me I just reply...naw it's my the Micro-Society at work! You see I'm really a very lazy gardener. I even use a battery powered sprayer....I'm too lazy to use a pump up one!

Good luck and as you can see from my reply...don't ask me a question and expect a short answer! LOL!
Olds

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