We were given a small potted miniture rose bush in January, and it has been doing well up to now (July), I have given it rose bush food with the watering, I moved up 1 size of a container and there have been lots of roses on it. It is outside in full sunlight. It has been very hot (30+ C) and dry and humid so I have been watering it every other day.
However this past few days, with lots of roses in bloom and buds, the leaves have been turning brown and some of the new buds seem to be drying up... what is happening?
I have attached a picture...
Should I transplant it outdoors? Will it withstand our harsh cold winters here in Canada, in Kitchener ONtario?
Miniture rose bush, leaves started to turn brown
It's extremely hard to keep roses well in small pots like that - they have very vigorous root systems. Also, in a very small pot like that, you'd need to be watering it at the very least once a day in hot weather, and probably 2 or 3 times a day, due to the small soil volume. (Our tender roses in enormous pots in the greenhouse needed twice daily watering at a minimum, and even more in hot weather.)
In the ground, your plant would have the benefit of the roots being able to access water on their own, however, I have no idea if the variety would be hardy there or not. The leaves don't look particularly "miniature" - I would wonder if it is not a standard rose variety ('Sunsprite'?) sold in a small pot. It may need winter protection to come through the winter, no idea.
Thanks... so would a larger pot help?
Or should I transplant it in the ground? In a sunny spot? Full day sun? Partial sun?
I have been watering it once/day and it has been thriving, up to a couple of days ago when the leaves starting turning brown!
Yes, a larger pot would probably help, and more water in hot weather, but still in the sun. Or in the ground... that part is entirely up to you. If you want to treat it as an annual, that's fine, but if you expect it to winter over, it may need to be protected (i.e. a covering of mulch), as mentioned.
Oh, and the pot needs to have drainage too (I will add, just in case...) Having the pot with drainage holes sitting in a saucer of water, so that the roots can uptake water as needed, helps a lot.
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I want to keep it and treat as a perennial, either winter over inside or outside.
Is direct HOT sun good for it ALL day long?
OR less sun?
What would be the care if I put it in a larger pot and over wintered it INside?
The care outside would to overwinter outside in very cold temperatures is mulch (I also use a burlap covering for some of my other larger roses that I have had for years).
A plant in a container can over heat faster than a plant in the ground. The roots cook in the container. Similarly, they get too cold in the winter. The ground, with mulch is reasonable insulation for a plant that just needs a little help to make it through. This does not work as well for a container.
Here is how I would handle this:
Now: Put the plant where the pot will be shaded from the sun from noon to 4, perhaps longer. OK if you need to prop up a tent around the pot. Grouping it with other plants in pots is another good option. Cooler roots is the goal.
Partial shade for the leaves during this hot spell is good, too, but I would find good bright light- perhaps partially under the shade of a tree. Full sun in the morning, bright dappled light in the hottest part of the day, then some more full sun late afternoon.
Every time you prune off old flowers use it as an excuse to shape the plant just a bit. Don't let it get too large.
Fall: Thorough clean up, trim it back a bit, bring it indoors to as bright a location as you can. Some roses can live as house plants, and do not need to go dormant. Most do need a dormant period.
Cold is OK, the plant should go dormant, just not as cold as your freezing wind could make it. Do you have an enclosed porch?
Winter: It should be dormant. Dark is not a problem. Late winter: you can un-pot it, root prune if needed, add fresh soil and a slow release fertilizer. Prune most severely now.
When you think there is only a few weeks until the last frost move it into a bit warmer a spot and begin watering it, 1 thorough soak, then see if there is a growth response and begin watering it as needed.
You can also begin moving it into the garden to a protected location in the warmest part of the day, bringing it in at night. Leave it out longer and longer as the nights get milder.
After the last frost date: If you have been moving it in and out it should be OK outside all the time. Until the weather starts getting into the upper 20s (C) or upper 70s (F), I would leave it in full sun.
Thanks Diana! That is what to do to keep it in the pot... what about transplanting it OUTside. Is now a good time to Transplant - if not, when is the best time to transplant to OUTside?
In such a cold winter area spring is best- mild weather to get established before the heat of summer and plenty of time to store energy to make it through the winter. This late in the year, I would keep it in the pot over this winter, transplant it in the spring. You could get a head start on it by prepping the hole now. Plenty of compost will be better broken down and blended with the soil by spring.
Thanks for the advise!!
Just something to keep in mind... winters up north are 6 months long, give or take. This is a very long time to try keep a full-sun plant happy indoors, which makes it quite prone to failure. It is much easier to keep roses in a dormant state (well, most tender rose cultivars don't actually have a dormant period but you can force them) in an unheated space that is, nonetheless, kept above freezing... e.g. an unheated garage, coldroom, etc..
That doesn't look like a miniature rose to me. Also, quick question. Are you seeing any webbing on it?
Yeah, I didn't think the leaves looked miniature either, though that doesn't really change anything.
Found the tag, it is a Rosier miniature rose. They are miniature roses.
Pardon me for saying, but Rosier is likely just the French translation for "Rose", on our (sometimes) bilingual labelling. There doesn't seem to be a named cultivar called 'Rosier'.
Tags get mixed up too. It might be a miniature rose but it doesn't look like any I've grown.
Do you happen to see any webbing on the plant?
What size are the leaves? Measure several- smaller, mid-sized, largest.
And remember that roses have compound leaves, with usually 5 sometimes 3-7 leaflets.
A true miniature rose will have small leaves, and small leaflets. A full sized bush rose generally has much larger leaves. Even the mid-sized leaves are larger than any miniature rose leaf.
What size are the flowers when they are fully open? Miniatures are only an inch or two, full sized bushes have flowers over 2", and often 4-5" diameter.
Yes, it will be difficult to keep it going for 6 months, but forcing dormancy is a good idea.
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