Not sure what flower his is?

Can anyone help me identify this flower?

Thank you in advance.

Plant ID requests should be posted on the Plant Identification forum - I wish the admins would post this is in big letters!

But... it's Centaurea dealbata.

I would imaging and hope, the Admin had more important things to sort out, I think most of the people asking these questions re plant ID are either new to the site or don't know there is an ID forum.

altagardener, you don't have to answer any questions, especially as it appears to upset you that someone has broken a rule or something, were all on the site because were amateur gardeners, NOT professional Horticulturalists. From what I can gather, these are new gardeners and just need a little help and encouragement.

Maybe you would be best getting in touch with Admin IF this is in any way upsetting you, I have NOT read any other complaints re ID plant questions on the forums OR maybe Admin are just happy new people are coming onto the Dave's Garden Site.
Kindest Regards.
WeeNel.

Whether one is new to the site, or has actually been a member for some years, the instructions are there for all to see, WeeNel. They are equally available to beginner and experienced amateur gardeners, and even to professional horticulturalists (though why this is implied to be a pertinent point, I don't know).

From the headers to both the Beginner Flowers Discussion Forum and the Beginner Gardening Questions Discussion Forum:
"Do you have an unknown flower in your garden? We have a Plant ID forum to help!"

And in the Ask-a-Dave's-Gardener Discussion Forum:
"Identification questions should be posted in the ID forum - just click on this link to reach it."

People are usually informed of it when they post to the wrong forums - it helps to tell them, firstly, so that they know where to repost so that they get correct information in a timely way, and secondly, so that they find out how the site works and, with hope, get their query to the correct forum next time.


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I don't have any issues with asking for plant IDs in the "wrong" place. BUT the header could be much larger and the instructions could be reversed where the ID instructions should be put first. People see no reason to read further when they think they are at the right place. It's just printed too small....IMHO.

I have no problems with people posting in the wrong place either. Too many "rules" can make a site unwelcoming.

The site already in beginning to sound rather unwelcoming at times, I have been a member for yonks and honestly, this is the first time this point has been made into such a silly, petty, childish issue,
Ofcource there are rules, our lives are dictated by rules and regulations, some never to be ignored, some helpful while others are just daft.
Please lets keep this site as it was set up to be, as a friendly, caring and non political or religious but above all, helpful.
I'm sorry altagardener but your way off the mark here of what Dave's is all about, Someone comes on the site asking the name of a plant she was left from her newly deceased mother, ofcource Im going to offer my heart felt sympathy and try help that person out, OR are you trying to say we should NOT be doing that because of some petty rule you place more importance on by your standards.
Sorry, Please forgive me BUT IF a question come up, just don't give replies IF it's on the wrong thread, it's as simple as that. Were Not obliged to give answers IF it's not to our liking or offends or is selling something, so it's the same with ID questions, dont answer,
This site is meant to offer helpful answers NOT dictate rules

Hope everyone has a wonderful summer in their garden and all those requiring help of ANY kind of help, be assured some folks are delighted to help or steer you to where help is available, that's what the Dave's community spirit is there for.
Kind Regards.
WeeNel.

Amen from me too, from WeeNel.

Okay, let's see if I've got this straight...

When a posting is made in the wrong forum, the opinion of the group here is that it is best to not answer at all, as follows:
"Sorry, Please forgive me BUT IF a question come up, just don't give replies IF it's on the wrong thread, it's as simple as that. Were (sic) Not obliged to give answers IF it's not to our liking or offends or is selling something, so it's the same with ID questions, dont (sic) answer, This site is meant to offer helpful answers NOT dictate rules..."

Cville_Gardener, your response to the following query which came up after our discussion, then, is apparently the WRONG thing to do, according to what was decided in the previous discussion and apparently endorsed by you:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1395985/

For this posting, which came up a few days ago, post our discussion, it seems that the "don't answer at all" policy was enacted, as recommended:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1395830/

I fail to see how not responding, as advised by this group, has helped this person, and I also fail to see why directing a poster to the correct forum to help them get an answer is not only the wrong thing to do ("way off the mark").... unless one of you wants to do it, I guess... but also worthy of insult.

Gee - When I made this original post to get help in identifing this perennial cornflower (thank you), my only intention was to find out what the flower was. I had no intention of creating a ruckus and I'm sad that it has.

I appreciate altagardener responding within two hours and a minute to identify the flower. I have wondered for over a year what the flower was and had just located where I had put the picture of it. I am not a beginning flower person, but I was sure this site would get me the quickest response. That was a Beginner Flower for me. Thank you again altagardner........... I am a very busy gardener an avid gardener and this time of year, the biggest part of my time is spent outside or making plans for being outside grubbing in the dirt. Guess I could have done without the minuet lecture of not posting my question in the right place. I have been a part of Dave's Garden for some time now and I enjoy Dave's Garden site and all the knowledgeable people within. I don't have time to surf the site to figure out what goes where. I paid my subscription, so it's fine. Not a problem..................

Time to garden. Let me share some of mine - woops my shared garden are sure to be in the wrong place.

HOLY COW, Brenda!

Those are an awful LOT of GORGEOUS blooms! I love the ROWS upon ROWS of flowers near the pond (as well as all the other ones, of course!)

At the risk of sounding like a fool, but those flowers that have the bright yellow petals with dark centers, those are sun flowers right? I'm sorry for the dumb question, but those are truly awesome looking and I'd love to try and grow a whole bunch of those myself.

OK altagardener, here is my last response to this subject, My take on this is,

1. The subject of someone posting a questions re PLANT ID on the wrong forum is NOT a rule breaker.
It's a mistake that has been turned into a silly, petty discussion that truly belongs in the 5 years old play area.

2. I always try to treat others with kindness and hate to hurt people BUT, I really do think you need to get out more, maybe try to be UN-PERFECT, and go out a bit more to prevent you quoting rules and regulations to other who have actually mentioned " they don't mind answering a question " IF it's been posted on the wrong forum.

3. I don't know what group your talking about, I am NOT part of any group, Nor do I take umbrage at anyone who disagrees with my opinion, That's what forums are for, giving opinions that are different to your / others. or in-fact, agreeing with someone. I think you have to agree, some people have voiced their opinions and do disagree with you.
I think it was so childish to mention "the group" wanted to ID the plants, sorry, I did NOT reply to that question as I had no idea what the plants name was, OOOOP'S is that another broken Rule.

4. NO one has said there is not a SUGGESTION that IF you need a plant ID, There IS an ID forum, like myself, they just don't want the forums turned into strict rules and on this matter, like myself, they are trying to be encouraging, friendly, helpful and I'm sure, had you NOT been able to ID the plant in question, and no one else replied,someone would have mentioned the PLANT ID Forum. IN A NICE MANNER.

4. I said "you don't have to answer ANY questions" especially if it upsets you to have to answer a question that is on the wrong forum, you said you wished the Admin would sort the size of the writing at the header. WHY I ask? no one on the site other than yourself apparently finds this a problem. No one is blind or requesting the Admin to become involved, personally I think Admin have loads of other kinds of monitoring to keep them busy, but I did suggest you get in touch with them and report this disastrous misdemeanour with plant ID on the wrong forum, it is obviously something that has upset you so much.

5. Lastly altagrdener, I'm sorry this topic has gone this way and I still don't get what the problem is, but it's turning into one of those comedy farces you see on TV and you have a good laugh about it, except I understand it's not funny to you as, some RULE has been broken, and myself and as it turns out, others don't place the same importance on that BROKEN RULE !!!! Maybe because I have more important things going on in my life to be worried about that RULE. maybe I like helping others who want to get started down the path to learning about gardening or other subjects regarding that subject, EVEN IF they ask in the wrong forum.

I don't wish to keep this conversation going and to keep replying to the subject gives the topic an importance it really does NOT merit in my opinion.
I will close by wishing you well, pleasure from your garden and no doubt see you around the site However, as far as I'm concerned I have nothing further to add re this matter.
Kindest Regards.
WeeNel.

Wow Brenda, absolutely stunning, you have a real artistic touch for growing neighbouring plants where they will set off the colouring and textures of the plants set out beside it.
Your planting skills remind me of the British gardens of old where their were huge swathes of colourful perennials growing side by side and you had to walk along the garden to reach the next surprise, I don't know IF you have help BUT whatever, you deserve every accolade there is for amateur gardening.
Thanks for sharing, it's abviously a work of love for you.
Kindest Regards.
WeeNel.

Yes, she definitely does.

WeeNel - Such kind words - that will make me work a little harder to achieve more.

Thank you Cville_Gardener.

Brenda, dlefik asked what kind of flowers the yellow ones are? Can you answer them? Your place is beyond beautiful.

Brenda would know, but I can guess:
There are several daisy relatives with flowers like that.
Echinacea (see the purple ones in the last picture) is available in purple, pink and white. I do not know if they have bred yellow ones, yet. Common name is Cone Flower, for the tall mound the center of the flower makes.
Rudbeckia hirta and other Rudbeckias have yellow, orange, brown and multi-tone flowers, usually with dark centers. One common name for some of them is Black Eyed Susan.
Gailardia is another genus with daisies in the warm shades. Often multicolored. Common name is Blanket Flower.
Tithonia is another yellow-orange-red daisy flower. Common name is Mexican Sunflower.
Gazanias are also available in the warm shades with many multicolors. Generally smaller plants (roughly a foot to 18" high and wide)
Zinnia is a more commonly known daisy relative with flowers in a very wide range of colors.

I suspect Brenda's flowers are Rudbeckia, but I don't know for sure.

Yes - Rudbeckia. I bought a package of seed "Gloriosa Daisy" (Rudbeckia) years ago and luckily they I still have lots of them. That picture was taken last year, but it is just about time for them to bloom this year. THEY ARE SURE SHOWY WHEN THEY BLOOM.

They really are. I love them!

Thank you so much Diana_K for the informative answer. Seems I was way off lol. I suppose that shows how NOT educated I am with flowers. I'll definitely have to research those kinds a bit more and see if I can start some myself.

dlefik, please dont think for one moment you are un-educated re gardening / plants, landscaping or any other stuff to do with Gardening.
I've been gardening for more years than I care to remember YET, I am still learning, still get corrected at time re any advice as gardening, like lots of other things in life has actually change a lot since my childhood days spent helping my dear late father.
From starting out my own gardening hobby when I got married until now, I have learned so much and gained so much knowledge though-out the years I've been here on Dave's Gardening Site,.not only that, I find most people so friendly, helpful and kind.
IF you have the same care and helpful info here, you will have many happy years and let's face it, it's not learning like when we were at schooll, gardening is fun, or it should be. Just be patient and atke your time, NEVER be afraid to ask any gardening questions as others may also want to gat answers to the same questions.

Have fun with your gardening Hobby it's supposed to be a relaxing hobby, make sure you keep it as that and you will achieve far more.
Happy gardening and good luck.
Kindest Regards.
WeeNel.

Everyone has a GREEN THUMB of sorts. It amazes me how people plant differently and yet they somehow obtain the ultimate goal. Yet one persons goal may be different than another. I may not be able to grow say, Ostrich Fern - yet my neighbor down the road has them practically coming out her ears. She is always dividing them. I find that fascinating........

I don't do well with Walflowers - yet I have a friend that excels in them. I've yet to get starts off of my Annabelle Hydrangea, but I'll keep trying and I'll probably get the hang of it one of these days.

I have lots of other flowers - lots of trial and error flowers over the years. Working in the flowers seems to feed my soul. Don't give in dlefik - just keep on trying and you'll have some real quality hands on experience of sorts. Then you'll really be hooked!

brenda 654, I think soil type, temp, sun/ shade etc plays a large prt in growing some plants, I also dot get the same show of wall flowers that my Dad did each year all through my childhood, he grew them in swathes inter-planted with Tulips, Forget-me-Nots and it was a sight to behold, I think my problem re Wallflowers are, I don't have enough Garden Lime added to my soil as my soil is very acidic, therefore I grow mostly shrubs, tree's and plant that suit that. The exception that over the years I've dumps truck loads of horse manure over Borders and the soil is really very rich now.

The Hydrangeas are quite easy to take cuttings from.
The climbing type need cuttings taken June - July from good Side shoots 3-4 inches long, stick them into the outer edge of a pot filled with a mixture , equal parts of peat and sand, this allows good drainage and place them indoors or greenhouse etc till roots are showing around the pot bottom. water as you would from the bottom when dry.

The shrub type are just as easy, choose strong (NON flowering stems and about 4-6 inches long, remove lower few sets of leaves and do this August - September.use the same mix for these as for the climbing type, they will root faster with a little bottom heat BUT on a window sill with FILTERED light would be OK, water from the bottom and the rooted cuttings should be ready to place outside in individual pots around April, mid summer you can maybe plant out IF enough roots are developed, BUT my way would be to bring them back inside for winter and set them outside where you want them to grow on come early summer.

Hope this helps you out. Good luck.
Kind Regards .
WeeNel.

I'm trying to visualize swathes of wall flowers, interplanted with Tulips and Forget-Me-Nots. OH HOW LOVELY!~!~!~!~!~!!! Thanks for sharing that of all things! Makes me want to paint the picture and I'm not a painter. Dare I ask what color the Tulips were that your father planted in this lovely mix?

Thanks for hydrangea info as well WeeNel.

Actually brenda, they were changes each year, the Wallflowers here are treated like an Annual, and planted out late summer to flower the following year OR planted out late summer again after germination and gown then treated like an annual, (they are actually Perennials ) as you probably know, BUT were grown as Bi-Annuals, for those who don't know, Bi Annuals grow from seed 1 year, flower the following year, then die off) So my Dad started his flowering schemes plans the year before. After the flowering period is over, they die down set there seeds BUT the following year they are very woody with fewer flowers.
Colour-wise Brenda was always a big debate in the family, MY Mum liked flowers in the garden "Not in a jar" she would say, Dad loved a vase of flowers and gave loads away for that purpose.
I remember one year the Wall flowers were Dark Rusty red / brown and the Tulips were taller than the Wallflower and these were deep Yellow with Orange / Red markings, then bursting alongside was the lovely Forget-me-Nots. As a Little girl I thought it was magic, I also remember aspringtime when we had Pink Tulips, with dark Yellow Wallflowers, Not as good as the display from the Burnt orange, these looked like Velvet.
I need you to understand Brenda, I was born during WW11, and here in UK we had to learn to grow our own food, flowers etc and wasted little, a bit of wood could be turned into something useful or string and paper was never thrown away like we do now, the string was always reused and the paper was reused for covering our school books to keep them clean for passing onto the pupils who followed you. SO after the wall flower display was done, it was dug up, Tulip bulbs saved, the ground was limed and several weeks later we were planting Cabbages, Brussel Sprouts etc. This has brought back so many memories Brenda, My Dad was an avid gardener and even when he was elderly, he would sit in our garden telling me how to do this or that, I think most kids miss out on that type of relationship with parents as the Parents are so busy, both working, usually out of neccessity rather than greed. Summer was spent outside in the garden, Soon as my dad arrived home, he had dinner and went outside to garden till dark. I was usually with him unless I had friends around and the dollies required our attention LOL. OH yeh, forgot, we went to a store called the Iron Mongers, they sold everything from brooms to Parafine for heaters lights etc. BUT they also sold seeds when in season and we bought them by weight, either 1 ounce, half ounce or IF the seeds were so tiny, a pinch, they were put in little paper envelopes and the man wrote the name and plant colour on the envelop or the named cabbage etc. I loved the smell of that place, it was a mixture of earth and dirt, maybe that's why I took up gardening, ALL changed now.
I've taken you way down MY own Memory Lane Brenda but, I'm sure you guys over the pond will have had just as many special times as kids. We were so lucky, we lived kind of countryside, in the towns until 1945, the towns or cities were being bombed by the Germans, by that time USA had joined in and helped us out, supposed to be the war to end all wars right, pity no one told the rest of the people in charge LOL.
Take good care have a lovely summer in the garden.
Kindest Regards.
WeeNel.

Such WONDERFUL memories you have, WeeNel. Thanks for sharing.
Obviously lots of your father's gardening traits were handed down to you. How very special.....any time you want to share more from your Memory Lane feel free to D-Mail me.