The back of our home faces this view (see photo), so when sitting on our patio we are staring at this boring fence! We need some color and life! My husband does not want to lose too much grass since our yard is small so I promised him that we'd only take away a foot or two of grass from the fence! So I'm thinking of perennials that are more vertical? The back of our home faces east and that fence faces west so this area gets morning shade but lots of afternoon sun. We live in the midwest so short hot summers and very cold, long winters, unfortunately. I'm thinking something large and full in left corner but then something less dramatic for along the back fence. Clematis? Lilies? Also, do I need to wait till next spring to do this or can I do now? Thanks so much for your advice!
Need advice on what to plant in this area of my yard please!
Hi justinekarl, coneflower, delphinium, foxgloves, monarda and Phlox are perennials for afternoon sun, you can also try gladiolus and Hibiscus I know lilies are usually planted in fall and most Clematis began to bloom in spring . I hope this can give you an idea of some plants you can try and they do well in afternoon sun. Here are some pictures of the way they grow ,hope it helps. Good luck with your gardening
A vine that you can train on the fence would fill the whole fence, and you would not have to plant very many- say... about 8' apart.
Then, in between, you can plant all sorts of annuals and perennials. Kind of a 'one of each' selection. Whichever grow the best for you get more of those.
Does your view from the house mean you might want something year-round? A conifer in the corner with an upright and narrow pattern , say Picea omorika 'Pendula Bruns' would't have to take much space. A tall hydrangea ( maybe a P.G ) would fit the character of the spot very well if it's very shady. Although either of these may come out a little more than 2 feet, they give the eye some variety, and an excuse to make the border a bit curvy. If you're willing to lift the bulbs, then hollyhocks, and dahlias in the sunnier area. Orienpet (hybrid) lilies can be very tall. Conca d'oro (sp?) seems to resist the red lily beetle very well. Don't be surprised if once you have a tall bed planted, you want to broaden it for room to grow some shorter plants in front.
I think a border of soil 2 feet wide from back to front is way too narrow, the plants would look like a row of little or large soldiers awaiting the firing squad against a fence.
the narrowest and best looking borders are anything from 3-4 feet wide, this allows for the roots to have no completion from the grass, also, take into account the plants you choose will grow UP and OUT, so don't think your husband would be happy when trying to cut the lawn and your beautiful plants have began to spread outwards making it harder to cut the edges.
Anything you fancy growing against the fence to cloth it is great BUT, make sure you put any framework onto the fence before you plant as you can easily tie the new plants to the suppost rather than try to do it AFTER the plants have put on even more growth.
Look for Clematis Montana Rubens, it has beautiful pink flowers early Spring, after a few years it grows Rampant, BUT you just cut it back to get the length of fence cover you want,
There is a white one also but I love the pastel pink.
Jasmine, look for wall growing types, some have a beautiful perfume, again they can be pruned to keep under control of required.
Lonicera, again they can be kept pruned to size, some perfumed ones are stunning in evening with their perfume hanging in the still summer air.
Roses, look out for roses that you like the colour of, you like the flower shape, you obviously need to know how it spreads IF tied against fence and how to prune it, there are so many climbing Roses you wont be stuck, look for the older type that can grow to maybe 10 feet BUT, you have to tie these to supports along the fence as they grow, not difficult but needed.
there again are some perfumed types.
Wisteria is fab and has the drooping bunches (like grapes) flowers most people love, they do need a really stout frame to grow along BUT, most people forget to prune them and they can go too heavy and rampant. Yellow, cream, white, pink, all shades of blue / purple, Love it.
Pyracantha, these are grown for winter / spring colour of berries (the birds love it and feed on the berries), fruit colour is red, yellow, pink, orange. they have sharp thorns so wear gloves if working / pruning, to grow against the fence you need to prune the forward sprouting branches when young, tie the side shoots to the fence support.
there are hundreds of wall fence climbers and I've only mentioned a few, but these ones will do fine in your zone IF places against the fence, a foot from the is normal as when planted, you slope the cane they have for support towards the fence, this foot out from the fence allows for air, water and spread to take place, too close to the fence and the soil will be very dry due to shelter from the elements.
You need to prepare the soil well before you even buy the plants (plants sitting in pots for long periods are difficult to care for) once you take the plants home, IF possible, stick them in a large container of water for a good few hours or over night, this allows the plants to take a good drink before you place them into their planting hole.
Set the plants out in the border, step back and look see IF you want to move, change around or are happy, then set them into their planting hole where you should have already dug the beds, removed ALL grass, weeds. add as much humus as you can lay your hands on, Horse manure is best, or home made compost, shop bought compost, aqll great, this added humus allows the soil to be broken up into better condition adding nutrients, helps air into the soil, it helps the soil retain some moisture too, so don't skimp on humus. horse manure is usually given away free, you want it to be well rotted and no odour, should crumble in hand when rubbed, looks like a rich composted soil. the better you prepare the soil the better your plants will grow and reward you, as I plant, I like to add a handful of blood / fish / bone meal as this is a natural fertiliser and chemical free.
For front of border, the choice is well, look in any garden book for Perennials that suit your zone, go to library, book store and look at the pages, don't buy large expensive books that are all pictures, IF needed, but ones for beds and border, or beginners.
Delphiniums. all colours,
Pinks (carnations)
Alliums, from lilies to ornamental onions.
Phlox,
Iris,
Dicentra (bleeding hearts)
Digitalis (Fox Gloves)
Primula, all different kinds.
Nepeta (Cat mint)
all or most spring bulbs to give early colour when you look out windows.
Papaver, Poppies, there are too many to mention from the smallest to the large flowering ones
Aquilegia, (grannies Bonnets)
Lupins, all colours.
Anemone, spring /summer types.
Hostas, beautiful leaf with edges coloured white, cream, yellow Slugs love them so protect)
Astilbe, Red, Cream, pink,
Stachys, Lambs ears. soft grey foliage looks like fluffy ears.
Then there's ground cover
Ajuga,
Geranium, (NOT summer bedding)
Vinca.
Veronica. bergenia.too many to mention.
Look for smaller shrubs for in front to give structure, especially in winter
Hydrangea.
Magnolia. Camellia,
Ilex (holly, check for sex, as mails have female names like yellow queen and the females are called after males like king you need both sexes for berries to come.
Choisya,
Philadelphus.
many, many More. I'm sure others will give more ideas BUT just go look at what grows in your neighbourhood and if possible, take pictures, there are many nice small trees too like flowering cherry, plumb, apple etc, but as before, you need a pollinator for fruit so maybe check out that for your choice to work.
Hope this helps you our.
Best regards.
WeeNel.
For the first year, I would start with the corner and focus on that. Then every year, maintain the corner and see if you feel like branching out from there.
Definitely something tall in the corner. A very tall and decorative fan trellis to soften the sharp angle. If you go with the vine idea, start the vine in this corner and let it trail out on both sides. Then maybe a bench or a seating area of some sort in front of the trellis (angled in the corner). Walk to the corner and look back at the house (and take a picture if you don't mind 't showing us), what does it look like?
If it was my yard, I would want that corner to become a destination. A seating area would be inviting for people to walk over there. It would also give you something to look at from the patio. Then once you reach the destination, there can be more and more things to discover close up.
If not a seating area, maybe a tall statue or something equally dramatic to create a focus point. It doesn't matter what time of year, summer or winter, you should have something interesting to see.
You can start with a trellis in the corner and large potted plants to start, as time goes on, you can move things around and keep adding things. Then you can decide whether or not you want plants along the fence. I would hang a single metal butterfly or a dragonfly centered on the fence in the middle. That's all.
Wow! Thanks so much everyone for your awesome advice! I appreciate everyone taking the time to post your ideas and thoughts. I especially like the thought of starting out with just the corner and taking my time to do the rest, Mila1. A seating area was something I never thought of but I'm considering it. WeeNel, you have so many details and ideas I haven't thought of! Thank you! I can't wait to get started and I'll post some pics when I do!
Your very welcome, I agree with Mila1, take your time, IF your new to gardening, there is nothing worse than cultivating a huge area, running out of steam / time / funds etc and being put off once the weeds begin to take over before you've realised your dreeam beds / borders.
gardens are never built in a day or even a week, you take time to mark out the area, be bold, dont skimp on space allowed for planting into, you can fill it up over a whole season, or start off seeds to be planted out the following season, just do enough you feel comfortable enough to manage caring for, IF you only have a few hours a week to work the garden, then long planted beds are no use to you as you will spend a good couple of hours weeding and neglect other areas, so work all that out before you go off to buy tree's / plants.
Also it will take you a good week or so to prepare an area for planting tree's, add as much humus as you can get your hands on, once tree's start to spread there roots, the chance of adding to the root area with more humus is more difficult, just try relax and enjoy your new projaect, and remember, IF it goes wrong, look for the cause and just start again. you always learn from gardening from day one, I've gardened for over 50 years and I'm still learning new things,
Best of luck,
Kind Regards
WeeNel.
Ha ha, I'm happy you liked my idea! You can find benches and all kinds of concrete seats on clearance right about now. It's not difficult to keep the grass under the bench and weed eat around it. Or if you prefer, you can mulch the ground instead and make it really maintenance free.
Then go from there with plants. Can't wait to see your photos!
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