Side Yard Help! Zone 7

Alpharetta, GA

Good morning!

I am so excited to have joined your gardening community! My husband and I purchased our first home last summer and have finally completely enough hardscaping to get around to planting. We have a very sunny side yard along the house that gets dappled shade in the afternoon from a young dogwood tree. I am a huge fan of the cottage garden look, but my husband prefers more 'defined' spaces.

The bed is probably 5 feet deep and 15 feet long. Right now we just have an endless summer hydrangea in a back corner and that is the only plant we care to keep. The daylilies didn't bloom this year (even with proper fertilization) and the other bush was planted way to close to the lawn. We plan on planting a substantial part of it with alternating Black Eyed Susans and Shasta Daisies. I would like to save some of the sunnier portions for zinnias in the spring. Any other ideas for border plants than can tolerate part shade?

From what I've read, right now is a great time to sow seeds in Georgia for daisies. BUT, because we are trying to do defined areas I can't just seed bomb. Should I start the seeds now in containers and then plant them in their final resting place once they are 6" tall? Everything I've read about late summer plantings just tells you to direct sow.

Thank you thank you for any and all of your advice! I am excited to learn more about gardening! I just finished reading an edible gardening book by Walter Reeves when I started my raised fall vegetable beds. Next is all about flowers

-Laura

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Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

For border plants…Meaning a natural"edging'? you might look into Mondo grasses, or Loriopes. Several varieties to pick from there, and they 'spread' by clumping to fill in and give a nice solid edge in time.
Looks like you're starting from a fairly blank slate! Love that!
If wanting to start your new plants from seed, then I agree with you. I think getting them started off in containers is the way I'd go.
Echinaceas work really well with Rudbeckia as well.

I see a lot of fun ahead of you! Good luck, and post your progress…Love to see it.

And Welcome to Dave's!
~Tara :-)

Contra Costa County, CA(Zone 9b)

Are there windows in that wall?
I would plant something a bit larger against the house, about as high as the bottom of the windows.
Then a winding row of mixed perennials.
Leave a couple of arcs for seasonal color.

Lets say...

5 shrubs against the house.
Then a serpentine row that dips in a little bit between the shrubs, not much. Just enough so you do not have a straight line. It might also dip pretty close to the lawn. Choose 3 species to make up the bulk of this band. The arcs made by this band will leave 2-3 bare areas next to the lawn. Perhaps a foot to 2' wide, 3-5' long.

I would use a structural material to edge the lawn. This will be dug into the soil at the edge where you want to stop the lawn to control the underground parts.

I would not do a formal border plant next to the lawn, but if you want to I sure would not choose a grass-like plant such as Mondo Grass or Liriope. Use a broadleaf plant with some good contrast.

This message was edited Aug 17, 2013 6:18 PM

Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

An example?

Ayrshire Scotland, United Kingdom

For the type of cottage garden your trying to plan then where to start is on a piece of paper and draw a rough plan, true cottage gardens have a mixture of Perennials, shrubs, annuals and some edible's like lettuce or herbs or even cabbage / onions but it's up to you.

These beds are made up of different areas, called rooms as the borders are split up into a size for each room to allow for different colours , textures, and hight's to compliment each plant or group of plants of the same type growing next to it, in front of and behind.

Shrubs give the beds structure and colour as well as texture and are there ALL year round, Perennials pop up spring, give colour and hight as well as perfume or texture at the leaf, they die down in late summer and gone by winter so you need the likes of shrubs to give you colour and shape in winter unless you want to look at bare soil for about 5 months over winter.

Annuals are staples in borders as they help fill in all the spaces that you see between some of the other shrubs or perennials.

You can get hight from making structures to grow climbing plants either like Roses, Clematis ect, you can select these as there are many other climbing plants but, it all depends what type of structure you can have within the borders, my favourites of climbing frames are stout strong metal or wood TPEE shaped as they take up little room bur look nice when the plants are leafless in winters IF that's what you have in your area.

Next you look at the house, do you want to secure fixtures to the wall for climbing plants as back drop, but remember you need to get close to these plants to care and prune them when required.
IF you go for structures attached to walls, you have to allow air flo to get behind the structures, I use old cotton thread reels as a block between the wall and the wooden frame but you may find other things for that purpose.

You might need to amend your soil so go buy a cheap soil kit from garden store, they cost a couple of dollars, dont buy a big expensive thing as the cheap ones tell you the same info. it will tell you the soil PH so you know what to add to amend the soil IF required.
I would recommend getting as much horse manure as you can lay your hands on, it must be well rotted and it will allow air, humus to lighten the soil and help hold onto moisture at summer times when most needed, and it feeds the plants.
Most places that keep or use horses are happy to let you take any amount of there manure pile as you want free of cost, they have a daily supply of this stuff and we gardeners call it gardeners gold.

to test the horse manure it should have lost the smell of fresh droppings, when you hold it in your hand it should crumble like good soil and it should be brown like a wonderful garden compost.

If you cant get that then shop bought compost can help with added chicken pellets but go with the directions on the package for how much a dose to use as too much is as bad as none at all.

Look at edging the bed, use bricks on there side, wood or metal whatever you choose as you need to define the line between bed and path or lawn, whatever you have.

After all that, go to book store library and look out for books on cottage garden beds or how to plan beds and borders because for sure, English cottage plants might not be suitable for your area but there will be some types that look the same or alike the affect your trying to create, make lists of the plants you want with hight, colour and proper name so you can search them out.
go to garden store and pull out the plants/ shrubs you want and place them in groups together to give you ideas of how it will look, for perennials, always plant in groups of 3-5-7, if you plant single plants or 2 off, they look lost and don't give the oomph you are looking for in either colour or texture.

Hope this gives you enough info to be going on with as it is silly to try plant out now, best time is end of summer when soil is cooling down or early spring when the soil is warming up but the real summer heat has not hit yet.
The drain pipe you have the blue chute thing at could be a great place for a water but, you but the large water but, a fitting to add to the down pipe and this sends the rain water into the but, you just come along with water can and hey presto, free water for your garden plants, make sure you keep the but covered or you get Mosquito laying eggs or green alge forming inside the but.place the but on bricks for ease of turning on /off tap.
Have fun and take your time, plants and building structures are not cheap so plan well and do a bit at a time though it's always wise to do the hard landscape first then planting out. after you dig the bed and prepare the soil, try NOT to keep stamping or walking on the soil as it causes the soil to become compacted again after you just dug it and allowed air into it, use planks of wood to stand on and this will spread the weight of your feet.
Best regards. WeeNel.

Contra Costa County, CA(Zone 9b)

Here is a concept drawing:
green = shrubs against the wall- see they are not a perfect line, but a sort of W that is flared out.
blue = perennials. This is the waving line that works its way in and out of the shrubs, sometimes coming closer to the lawn.
pink = voids left in the perennial band for seasonal color.

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Alpharetta, GA

Oh my gosh! Y'all are incredible! I will definitely have to pick up a cottage gardening book or two. I have never considered a structure attached to the house, but I am falling in love with the idea if next year goes well! I will probably take advantage of big teepees this next summer.

The entire front of the house is lined with azaleas, so I might get a few more of those for the side to make it cohesive (although I like the idea of winter color). Thanks for the tip of mixing the perennials and adding annuals to fill in the gaps. The window is on the other side of the fence and has a teacup rose bush hedge under it.

We have been getting at least an inch of rain each week this summer, our rain barrel in the back is FULL! We are going to have to bury a drain going out to the street from that spout to make sure the foundation stays dry I think. My poor summer vegetables ended up real leggy since we've had almost no sun all summer. Hopefully my fall veggies will do better. I LOVE the idea of mixing edibles in the front as well!

We live among a lot of horse farms- I had a truckload of manure delivered for $40 this spring along side or mulch. Our soil is generally acidic, but we definitely didn't lime that part of the yard since its been a wasteland!

I'll try to come up with some designs and share them here for y'all's opinion! Right know I am leaning towards some azaleas/rhododendrons, phlox, forget me nots, coleus, daisies, and others. We'll see how many times that changes!

Alpharetta, GA

We are also doing this edging once our patio once the weather turns nice!

http://www.familyhandyman.com/landscaping/the-best-garden-bed-edging-tips/step-by-step

Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

You've got some great plan ideas going there…Really love that edging.
I'm not usually a big fan of Azaleas, but one that I really do like, and unfortunately won't do very well here, is the 'Little John'. It has a really beautiful burgundy color, and stays fairly small, maybe 2-4 feet, with nearly a fuchsia pink bloom. It might be something to look at for near the front 'edging' of the border.

Lots of fun ahead of you! :-)

Ayrshire Scotland, United Kingdom

Hi Laura, I can almost feel your excitement, it really is a very special time when your making a garden together, so different from when I did my first garden LOL, my husband was a way a lot and I was left with the 3 kids, I had a good old laugh when he arrived home Friday's and the first words he said was, "HI, so what you been up to" he had walked past the pathway I had made, the borders I had bug and the veg patch planted out, Jeeeeez, was he ever dicing with death, were no retired and boy what a change, when I say I need to plant a shrub ect, his first words are How deep do you want the hole dug. LOL,got him trained for all the hard work now Ha, ha, ha.
Make sure you keep taking pictures for your diary as you will be amazed at how fast the time passes and you forget lot's of the progress was made over a period of time after work is all done.

I absolutely love the edging you have shown us, IF you can manage cost wise, I would go for the red / orange coloured paver's, very versatile, practical and in line with what a cottage garden would have used (well old bricks were free then) that type of edging allows you to work on the border without ruining the grass, it helps take a barrow closer to where your working and that's great when your taking bags or barrow loads of compost / humus when adding annually to your borders.
When you get your edging laid whichever you select, ask for a few large paving slabs to be laid IN the border close to the back so that IF you need to work say, pruning a climbing rose attached to a frame on the house wall, you can just step over and onto a firm slab and your not tramping all over flowers or under the soil bulbs..

I hope you soon get all the hard landscape work done so you can prepare the soil for planting out next spring, you still have some time left this year to plant but my advice would be to wait till early spring and use the winter to place orders for your bulbs, shrubs, Roses (cant have a cottage garden without Roses) Perennial plants, I never understand a gardener who say they have nothing to do in winter, after sending off for all the plant companies catalogues and nurseries pamphlets bulb growers booklets jeeeees how can you say there is nothing to do, hot drink in front of a fire and all those books to drool over, your dreams have just gone mad LOL.
Take your time and you will enjoy it even more, do too many half stared jobs and you get lost and the plans you had made go astray.

Best of luck and take good care. WeeNel.

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