getting water on leaves?tomato plants

Madera Acres, CA

I just learned I should not be wetting my leaves on my tomato plants to limit risk of diseases..some say it is ok if you water in morning which is mostly preferred.ANYWAY I SOAKED THE HECK OUT OF MY LEAVES THE FIRST FEW TIMES I WATERED THEM I'M WONDERING WILL THEY BE OK IF I STOP WETTING FROM THIS POINT ON?ALSO IT DOESN'T GET COLD AT ALL AT NIGHT.I'M IN CALIFORNIA IN THE VALLEY.RARELY A COOL BREEZE AT THIS TIME

Contra Costa County, CA(Zone 9b)

Sure, stop wetting the leaves. If you can lay the hose next to the plant and let it run slowly to deep soak this is best.

central, NJ(Zone 6b)

Always water at the bottom
If there is no sign of disease yet should be fine

Madera Acres, CA

Only one plant (leaves turned yellow)not all leaves & I have some wilting.i also recently learned you can tell if its just a yellow leaf or a disease by the texture or the leaf may have rings.ANY OPINIONS
ALSO I'm thinking about spraying the correct amount of baking soda & water on them.again I need opinions or facts Lol.thanks alot

Ayrshire Scotland, United Kingdom

I really dont think you need to treat your plants quite like a kitchen.
You really only need to spray the likes of Baking Soda onto any plants IF/ WHEN required and not because someone has given you some idea that's what Tomato's need (if in fact that's where you got the idea from,

Wilting could indicate there is not enough water reaching the roots so I would stick fingers into the soil around the root area and if the soil feels dry, then give SOIL a good soak, if wet/damp, then dont water and look for other reasons for wilting.
things to look for are fungus on stems or leaf, mould on leaf / stem but my own ideas are it's lack of water reaching the roots.
When the weather gets really hot, a crust can be formed on the top and this prevents the watering's you do from reaching way down to where it's needed most, to help keep the soil porous, either use a small hand fork to gently break up the crust, (be gentle as Tomato's are shallow rooted) or a hoe will do this BUT make sure you know how to use the Hoe as a lot of people with heavy handed actions damage the stems of their plants and this allows disease to enter the plants, after you break up this crust you will water the plants and after that, do the soil test with fingers as you will be surprised at just how dry the soil still is, once soil dries out, it takes a lot of moisture to re-wet it again, you will have to learn to check your soil more often as in-proper watering it, will prevent the crop of fruits from forming properly and may also cause fruits to split, allowing insects to get their feed first before you realise there's a problem with wrong watering regime.
Hope this helps you out a bit and good luck. WeeNel.

Madera Acres, CA

It's these damn topsy turvy containers,when I water it drips down & onto the plant.so I stopped watering in the evening.this is why I was tempted to use the baking soda method.again I soaked my leaves for a few days & was worried that within those few days I they may have formed a disease/fungis.because there was a few browning/dieing leaves.I wudnt just consider using baking soda for the hell of it..but plants seem to be doing fine today.I just picked off the leaves that looked damaged.

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Algonquin, IL(Zone 5a)

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Ayrshire Scotland, United Kingdom

I rest my case thumbofgreen and ask you to return to the other forum where you already had a descusion / info offered re growing upside down plants mainly your tomato's, the problems you are having is mostly the ones I pointed out you would / could face but you insisted you had loads of friends who gave you better / more info re this method so I assumed you had it all sorted and perhaps I was missing a screw somewhere along the way, but hey, as I've said on many, many occasions, we all find our own ways to adapt.our growing methods but the basics are the same with regards light, soil, watering, feeding, pruning, propagating etc, etc, etc, there is a new small Cherry Tomato on the market that has been specially bred for this method of growing, it's like a trailing plant thet can also be grown in a hanging basket so perhaps that is the ones you noticed in a picture mentioned also on the other forum.

I'm sorry you never mentioned the upside down growing method in use at the start of the thread with your question as it would have been self evident why the leaves were being soaked, it's unavoidable if the plants are hanging upside down and your watering into soil ABOVE the foliage, as for the black dead looking markings on the foliage, I would stop spraying with Baking Soda as too much could be burning the leaves and I honestly cant understand why you would want to use this on your plants IF they dont show any signs of needing such treatment, I am again assuming these plants are still quite new and tender, therefore they need nothing except water, good light, once the first flowers are set, only then give a prepared TOMATO feed half strength once a week, when more flowers show, increase the full dose BUT, dont go beyond the dosage given on the bottle, over feeding, over spraying and over interfering with the natural growing HABIT of plants is really best left to the breeders as they know there what they are able to get away with because they have been doing it for many years.
Hope this helps give you some new insite into some of your problems and things improve soon.
Best regards. WeeNel.

Madera Acres, CA

WeeNel..thanks.& let me explain what's really happening..first you stated that "i had loads of friends to help me out" who gave me better/more info.well this isn't the case.I haven't took any advice from anyone with the exception of (you) & others here on this website.ALSO I don't have loads of friends.only a tight knit bunch.I don't know where you got this info.wasn't me.I DID SAY I'VE HEARD SUCCESS STORIES OF THE TOPSY TURVY..thats all I said.i mostly take advise from WeeNel.(you).which I trust in the info you have provided no doubt.I jus don't understand why you make comments such as (you were missing a screw along the way).seems as if you offer tips & advice with a side of (harsh remarks).lol.but thanks again for your advice.
& I have not put any bakingsoda AT ALL (not once).I DID not treat it like akitchen.I DID SAY I was considering that method but never did it

Ayrshire Scotland, United Kingdom

Please allow me to apologise to you for any upset I may have caused you personally, believe me, that was not nor ever was my intention in any shape or form.

I have looked over the previous post you sent in on 2nd July and I did take from that you had many friends who gave you what I would call advice re upside down planting Tomato'e and the results from picture.

I also never noticed the full stop July 9th, till re-reading this post where you said you were thinking about using the baking soda method as (again) you had soaked your leaves last few days, I took this as all one paragraph to mean you soaked the leaves with the B Soda, so yes I do apologise for that comment re the use of baking soda as here in UK we use it as a kitchen cleaner, preventing any smells in fridges /freezers and many other kitchen /bathroom cleaning uses.

I have always tried to encourage new gardeners to stick with it, to keep coming back to the site regardless of any harsh replies they get and are in fact put off the site. well please be sure I do not wish to have been party to that type of treatment to yourself or anyone else for that matter. I'm sad that either by replying the way I have or by yourself reading the reply has implied I was trying to be negative, rude, hurtful or in any way upsetting is the last thing I would ever wish to either witness or imply from myself.

When I said " I was beginning to think I had a screw loose" I was implying how confused I was becoming, as right at the beginning I did say I had never grown anything using this method, but like you, have heard from folks who have tried it and as they are long term gardening friends I take it as a given what they say is their OWN true personal views, learned from first hand experiences.

I think there is another member who has came onto the other thread you have re the same subject would be more helpful, being as they are already growing Tomato's by this method, and will be able to throw suggestions back and forwards while you keep at the Tomato season.

I hope that this will allow you to believe I did not at any time intend to hurt of upset you and through any actions or unintended remarks I made was never my intention. I am not on this site to upset anyone, I dont like others doing that and in fact have on several occasions made that feeling known directly to others who have been rude, sarcastic or deliberately undermining someone's questions especially for new gardeners.

I trust you will forgive any upset you feel I have caused as this has never, ever, been my intentions.

I look forward to you having many more years on the site and as always, learning from each other as we go along. This I hope will at least allow you to feel you have done nothing to upset myself to merit any hurtful reply, I save those up for people who really, really, really, cause upset ha, ha, ha.


Madera Acres, CA

I've worked construction many yearsof my life. I'm used to hearing many types of pple speak their mind (strait forward)..& I'm not upset at all.simple misunderstanding.No worries WeeNel

Ayrshire Scotland, United Kingdom

Thank you thumbofgreen, I really appreciate your remarks re not being upset, lets just call it a day and take it as misunderstanding's on both parts.

Do please keep going with further questions should you need to and if possible, keep to the one thread IF it's about the same plant or problem otherwise more confusion will arise.
There are some threads here on the site that go on for weeks and weeks so when people give a reply to you, they would normally get back to the same thread to see if they can help further or find if problem has been solved by someone else come into the thread.
Also keep in mind that there could be others who read the thread and wanted answers to the same question you have asked, so it's best to try keep some continuity going when dealing with one subject and start a fresh thread for another question on a different subject.
It also makes it easier to go back and and find the thread again maybe a few weeks later should you want to get further help or maybe even let everyone involved know everything worked out OK.
Hope this helps a little and good luck. WeeNel.

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