Clematis are Starting...

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Thanks, Kim. It will stay where it is planted!

Here's a 'Ramona' (see the tag) from a nursery:

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(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Raymond Evison's page on clematises beginning with R:
http://www.guernsey-clematis.co.uk/cultivar.asp?letter=R#

Part of his description: pale blue and well formed, with contrasting dark red anthers

(Zone 7a)

I have to jump in and share mine. This is Henryi this morning. This will be the 3rd year for him, so, we'll see how he performs.

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Athens, PA

Betsy - yours' is Ramona http://www.clematis.hull.ac.uk/new-clemdetail.cfm?dbkey=214

Arlene - I can't place yours....

Pieve di Compito, Italy

Folks....a quick question...finally found the tag on the clematis I'm trying to keep alive...it's "Yukiokoshi"...darn thing died to the ground
this winter..was glorious when I bought it last April...double white, large flowers...not very vigorous, however....languished around all summer, after blooming, then collapsed at the first frost....this is the first Spring for it, and I see two shoots coming up...not "I'm going to strangle the rose bush near me" shoots...just 2 not very lively ones....am keeping watered in hopes of ??? Does anybody have experience with this one? Am I doing something wrong...or better, what can I do right for it? Hate to lose a 20€ beauty...thanks Honi

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

I know how you feel Honi
I lost some new ones from last year.
Unfortunatly I dont have that one.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

I know how you feel Honi
I lost some new ones from last year.
Unfortunatly I dont have that one.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

I know how you feel Honi
I lost some new ones from last year.
Unfortunatly I dont have that one.

Jersey Shore, NJ(Zone 7a)

Honi, clems enjoy a dormant period (sometimes called winter :). When the first shoots appear in spring, it is the perfect time to fertilize. A rose/tomato fertilizer is great for clems. It is also a great time to amend the soil with a good compost. After it's best blooming period, try giving it a haircut by cutting away half to a third of the vine and give it some more fertilizer. This will often invigorate it to give you a second bloom period. I have many clems that are showing little shoots from the soil now, but in a couple of months they will be ready to strangle the rose. Good luck with your clem and don't forget to show us a pic!

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

I'm not sure if mine is Nelly Moser? Arlene, yours kind of reminding me of 'The President' clem.?

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Athens, PA

Lily -

another gorgeous picture. I'd love to be sitting there and taking it all in....

I was looking at The President for Arlene's clem, but I didn't see the red in her anthers - I am leaning towards Rhapsody, but just not positive.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Honi - Here's the page on Yukiokoshi from Joy Creek:
http://www.joycreek.com/Clematis-patens-Yukiokoshi-150-111.htm

In addition to what Louise said I'd give it a drink of Epsom Salts - 1 tablespoon (14 grams) to a gallon of tepid water.

Kim - could we have a close up photo of yours?

Sorry, Carolyn, I have The President and have had it for many years. It's much darker than the one in question. Here's a photo of it:

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Central, AL(Zone 7b)

I do love 'The President', Arlene that was I who made the wrong guess on 'him'. Your pix of 'him' is beautiful. Here is a close up on the questionable Nelly;

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Athens, PA

Arlene - what do you think about Rhapsody - could it be Rhapsody?

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Thanks, Kim. Nelly or not, it's lovely. Colors do seem different compared to up here.

I'll check on Rhapsody, Carolyn, but from what I've read there are two strains of Ramona - the original and another - both old timers. Maybe that accounts for the huge differences in these photos: http://www.google.com/images?rlz=1T4GZAZ_enUS418US418&q=clematis+ramona&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&sa=X&ei=bpeUTYj3McTm0gHwgpX6Cw&ved=0CDEQsAQ&biw=995&bih=471

Central, AL(Zone 7b)

Arlene, wow! Just look at that 1st pic. of Rhapsody on your link, the one contrast with the lilies! Stunning! I remembered planted Nelly in the past. But over the years I'm really more confuse of her appearance with other such as 'Firework' and 'Dr. Rupel'. So I'm pretty contented with a NOID (No I.D.). pretty clem. lol.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Purple and orange make quite an eye catching display!

Here are Nelly Moser, Fireworks and Dr. Ruppel but colors may differ for you.

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Duluth, GA(Zone 7b)

My Josephine is out of control. I had to tame her today. LOL;O)

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Duluth, GA(Zone 7b)

Fireworks is growing well, and I see new stems coming out of the ground where it was topped of with compost and mulch.

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Pieve di Compito, Italy

pirl...Thanks for the reference...she's a lovely girl...site says she blooms on last year's growth...what growth? All dried up..no possibility of
re-growing....but new shoots are coming up slowly....don't know if epsom salts are available here...will ask the pharmacy...I fell in love
with the showy flowers....I'm determined to save the plant....it's growing against a fence, in good soil...but the neighborhood pooches may be "watering" it....maybe that's the trouble...I have 12-12-17 fertilizer I use on everything not edible...will that work?....roots are composted, top in full sun....just like the book says....will send photo as soon as she is in better shape....here's hoping......Honi

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Cem - you're getting us northerners crazy with trying to tame a clematis! We're lucky to have tiny buds, for branches, showing! Keep up the great work and the great photos. Compost, manure and mulch are so good for clem's.

Honi - keep the faith! You may not get flowers since you don't have the old growth but do give Epsom Salts a try. They're good for tomatoes and peppers, too. Try using either rose or tomato food for the clem or a balanced fertilizer (even numbers like 10-10-10) instead of what you have. Keep us posted.

Beaumont, TX(Zone 9a)

Pirl, my photo of 'Ramona' is of the plant in several stages of blooming...this is the third year!

Betsy

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

I love your photo and seeing Ramona through all those stages at once!

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

I am still waiting for Killan Donehue and Alpina Plena to start something.
Other clems Henrii and Dan Deronda and Kiri te Kanawa are showing big buds. If the Donehues are dead I want to ad to my Brushwood order.

Charleston, SC(Zone 9a)

dthor,

The clematis you posted reminds me quite a bit of my Elsa Spathe (sp? I usually misspell this one).

A few of the other photos on this thread also suggest Elsa to me. It's similar to The President but not as dark in color.

Charleston, SC(Zone 9a)

pirl,

Your 3 photo montage with explanation makes a dramatic statement regarding the difficulty involved in trying to identify a clematis. I would like to have that pale pink one (top left in photo) but it might be a totally different color once I get it home (especially given the sun/heat here). Very interesting.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

Good news from my Clems. I thought my Multiblue was a gonner but there is a small nose comming.
Henrii is sending up shoots and Daniel Deronda is well leaffy.

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(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Dream - that's Nelly Moser and the color she blooms up here in the northeast.

That's great news ge/Jo Ann. Isn't it thrilling to know the clem's are alive?

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

Now to check the infamous Donehues Florida alpina plena and Kingfisher.

(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Kingfisher may just be a late one to show anything of value. It's late for a friend of mine.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

Nothing from any of that order. Both Bijus are looking questionable and the Killan Donehue is a gonner for shure. I will toss in mid may when I know for sure.

Charleston, SC(Zone 9a)

pirl,

Wow. Huge color range for that one. I would have expected it to be lighter down here in brighter sun, but here is my Nellie Moser.

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(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Nelly Moser, 2010, close-up. This is about as dark as it ever is here, Dream.

Jo Ann - I'll post a photo with the next message to encourage you not to yank what you think may be a goner.

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(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

Looks dead, right?

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(Arlene) Southold, NY(Zone 7a)

I gave it a quick rinse and looked again to see tiny new roots!

Patience really is a virtue.

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Athens, PA

JoAnn

I have had clematis take up to a year to show up. I had that happen with my Sunset. I thought it was a goner too, but watered it anyway. The following year, Sunset showed up and has shown up ever since.

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

OK No yanking til late May.

Naugatuck, CT(Zone 5a)

LOL, was out in the garden and finding clematis that I thought were gonners! In just a few short weeks, crazy growth!

Pittsford, NY(Zone 6a)

me too,yippeeee.
No signs of the Donehues tho.

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