Continued from here......... http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1034955/
October blooms
THANK YOU "flowejen"....
NOT that I have a problem--but I have been wondering when this Post would "move on"......:o)
Gita
Looking good, Jen! That's a great color on that Dahlia
Great pictures. Stormy, did you grow the montauk daisies from seed. Do they spread?
Just saw them in someones garden and fell in love. I have all the ox eyed types, but the montauks look so tidy compared to the others.
Jen, does the cardinal vine get overpowered with leaves the way that morning glories do?
Yours looks wonderful.
My garden has some things going on that couldn't get started all summer because of the wind, rain and lack of sunshine.
Blushing Susie looking happy at last.
Roses, Each one of your photos is prettier than the next. Your Blushing Susy vine and that Dahlia are just beautiful.
I really like the Cleome in that bed. I tried growing it here, but couldn't get it to reseed. Maybe my mulch was too thick.
Roses, Montauk Daisies aren't like any other kind of daisies. The plants themselves are like large succulents. They will eventually get quite large and bushy. They are very easy to propogate. Just break off a piece and plant it somewhere else. No, I bought them very inexpensively, like $!.50 a plant.
SO many pretty flowers even in OCT.
Cleome didn't self sow for me very well either, with bare soil in my messy veg garden. (oops typo, I almost wrote "self cow" !! ha ha)
Woo hoo-over here Roses LOL -the cardinal climber pic was mine. stormyla, I think Gita and I are talking about the same thing. In the morning glory family ( I think) wiht very divided leaves. It has been mostly foliage until lately.These flowers are small but intensely colored to the point that its hard to get a really true picture-or I am not that good!
Montauk daisies are in the chysanthemum family--the leaf texture is almost fleshy/ leathery. Cuttings/ divisions are the way to go. Then do NOT cut back late in spring like I did, boo hoo- very few blooms! Most say cut back in early spring, but one lady tol d me she doesn't cut back at all and now has sort of bushes. stormyla, what do you do?
Roses--
Nice pictures!
My Clematis always dries up after the first blooming and dies back. I read recently they can get a fungus and it suggested to cut hen back completely.
I did--what do I have to lose? I have a "Proteus" and the "Multi Blue". Does anyone else have this problem?
I need at least ONE new Clematis.....have an empty trellis in my side bed....
Re Crepe Myrtles--I gave been collecting seeds for the red one form plants at my HD. Ahem--just "deadheading" them....that is a GOOD thing to do! Right?
Has anyone ever tried growing these from seed? Wonder how long it would take?????
G.
Sally, I don't do anything to the Montauk Daisies. They don't even get watered. They are planted in my driest windiest spot. None of my hoses or sprinklers will reach out there. The only thing that will grow out there are the Montauks, Iris, daffs and now I have 2 newly planted Lavender Grasso that survived the summert there. Hopefully, they'll also make it through the winter. If they don't I might try some Perovskia.
The Montauks will get large about 3' x 3' after a number of years and the stems will get thicker and stronger. They are a great plant for a problem spot.
Gita, yes you may! That's a better shot of the color. Mine seems pinker on 'film' than in real life
stormyla -aha, a flash of inspiration. I've been wondering what to put in a dry, semi shaded spot behind some Autumn Joy sedum--Has to compete with maple roots, which made my previous try of Iris, not work well. Montauks! And I have enough to fill it up right away.- actually, next spring, I don't think I should move them now. do you?
Sally, I wouldn't hesitate to plant some that I bought now. Matter of fact, I think that I planted those last October. Your fall in certainly a bit warmer than mine. Either now or in the spring should be OK. Mine are semi shaded under Maples and Alianthus.
Do 4 O'clocks need much water? If anyone thinks they would with stand the wind and not flop, I might try some of them out there next year.
Thanks! it is awfully tempting with the nice weather...
as to 4 o clocks--they have those juicy stems, but do have tubers- it could go either way.
I had perovskia, but my feel is--you have to have a big clump of it or it just wisps away from view. It was an award winner one year.
That is a beautiful bouquet from orchidfancy-- go see it on the September blooms thread
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I know what you mean Sally. I have some of the russ sage in my driveway circular bed and the clump was too big for there. I split it up and moved it around to a few places and now it doesn't look like much of anything. Oh well, I'll keep searching the forums for other ideas.
That bouquet is indeed wonderful. I asked Orchidfancy to post it over here too.
nice photos all... Stormy my 4 o'clocks were hit and miss... some stood up fine and some I had to stake ... every year it seems to go that way... some just got bigger than the others... and mine were always planted on a slope
stormyla- my other thought for a tough spot was one of the hybrid goldenrods. I suppose they'd be good. I've seen some nice ones lately.
Sally, if they would withstand the wind and not flop, that we be a good end of summer choice. I still need two other selections to fill in post iris and pre-goldenrod season.
Maybe some Echies would do. I've noticed some varieties take the wind better than others. I've also noticed that the longer they take to bloom after the initial planting, the stronger the stems. I had some that took 2 full years to bloom and those stems are incredibly strong and straight.
Kathy Shihtzumom posted a beautiful grouping in the perennial forum. I've been meaning to write and ask her how much wind they take. Maybe I'll do that now. Here's that thread:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1035397/
I find that some 4's grow much larger than others.....almost like a small bush.
The way I deal with it is to put one of those lower (14" or so) folding, wire fencing around it. if you get the green ones--you won't even know it is there. It does hold all the stems together.....
IF you grow then=m from seed--they will not be so huge.
IF you dig up the roots--save them--and plant them next year--the 4's bush will be pretty large. I am sure many of you remember my big one I have already posted? This was grown from a dug up root.
Believe it or not--this is ONE plant!
Question: Are the Montauk daisies available this time of year--or are they a Spring thing???
snort--they are available any time via the DG network. Seriously, I bought mine in fall two years ago, Lowe's, probably because they were supposed to bloom in the store then. But I got them real cheap probably because they DIDN'T bloom in the store LOL. I will give you some.
Gita, Do the Japanese Beetles eat your 4 o'clocks? Lowes had tables full of the Montauks last week. Chuckle, chuckle.
I never saved the roots Gita... keep them like a dahlia?
very pretty
