The Roundup Party is over Part 2

Whoa, whoa whoa, can't read all that in one sitting. Back to watching "House Hunters International."

But yes, cold turkey after 6 years. Of course, not my doctor's recommendation. It was a rough week but I knew what to expect going in & I toughed it out. It's good to be able to cry at movies again.

Oh, so love the story on him/her to cool.

Will not comment on the rest, life is what you make it , make it work for you is all I can say, take the whatever it takes to make you feel better, as long as its real suppliants and not drugs (the bad kind) LOL

And No I have not, I have been trying to get intouch with RC have not heard from her.

For the record, I am not 100% comfortable talking about my depression & the pills. But I am a success story so perhaps I might say something that helps someone else.

In a nutshell:
1) I still remember the feeling of (at the time) Effexor kicking in & saving me from the kitchen floor covered in dirty dishes & allowing me to eat again. I could have cried from relief.
2) I'm better now. I want to be me without medication, make the changes in my life that only I can make. Moving on!!!!

You go for it, summerkid! And now, to bed!!

I think I missed something Sorry.
Had a bad life too. But what are you doing to to make it better for you???
6 years is great, I give you a real big Hug ^_^ Keep it going what ever it takes, do it clean.
My son is now 10 years clean, and going thu the worst trauma of his life he is 47. and it all comes to my door step every time things get bad. I tell Him you have got to deal with it, I will not be here for ever. He has taken that and has delt with it. So proud of him. We all have to stand up.
I think I need to say night.

Pix, once I sat down long enuf to read that, your soapbox was wonderful to absorb.

Thank you!

Tilly, I have had a very GOOD life. And it's only getting better. Thanks for the hugs, that helps too.

Just being the logical male. But it looks very much like a moth out of focus. Here is a calypso moth that I think fits the bill. Millions of others. Why get my friends in trouble getting caught in a photo. Hey a fairy needs to get her reputaion right with here forest friends.

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"I want to be me without medication, make the changes in my life that only I can make. Moving on!!!!"
Yay, way to go!!!

A very interesting book I just read about depression (a subject I know more about-the hard way- than I wish I did...and I don't enjoy talking about this much, either.) is "The Mindful Way through Depression-Freeing yourself from Chronic Unhappiness". It sounds like a typical crank self-help book, but it has legitimate research and well-credentialed psychologists involved. There's some informative discussions on some newer scientific research on brain pattern changes that are associated with depression. They correlate the brain pattern change with recurring depressive episodes-self-fulfilling cycle, really. The book's take on dealing with it is mindfulness meditation-Jon Kabat-Zinn is one of the co-writers. The idea is to learn to catch and modify the destructive thinking patterns and associations. Mindfulness meditation is supposed to be great for learning to watch and see, and eventually modify, those patterns.

Sofer, that would be an amazingly LARGE moth....Are they around here?

Maybe it's a rebellious teenaged fairy (That would fit with the miniskirt and kneehigh boots as seen in Pony's enhanced image, lol) or one that's still mastering dimensional transitions while in active flight? Do you think it hurts them to be photographed?

Thanks for your 'soapbox' Pixy. I appreciated it and all the other comments, too.

Sorry Summer when I went to skip to new I didn't see your posts. I too have had depression and I have been blessed with my antidepressants and a change of thinking that I was given to me by my Creator. It seems to try to take me down and somehow I learned to "give thanks in all I have to face". When I was pulled over yesterday by a cop I looked, without finding, a positive effect. Normally I would have obsessed on it and thought about it all the way home. Anyway I just thanked God for slowing me down going home and had a blessed trip that took me past 2 bears, at different locations that let me get out of my car and talk to them. One just sat in the road scratching his butt. I then thanked Him for me not having ticks on my a.. LOL Hope you get on a stable and fruitfull existance.
It was almost dark and this is the only picture I got. Thanks for slowing me down Lord.
I am unaware of where these moths are but there are many in the Pac NW with the tails that look like legs. I have seen them in the many times out in the wild.

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Sopher and the rest, No matter how overwhelming life may seem, there is always something to be thankfull for....even if it is something as simple as no ticks on your a..!

Good for those of you who have faced adversity and been able to overcome....life is to short to focus on the down side! Kudos!

Still looking through the photos and comments, but just had to chime in about the depression/anxiety thing. During the times when I was feeling stressed and full of anxiety (divorce, work) I found that the best solution for me was, and still is, lots of exercise. Run, walk fast, hike, snowshoe, ski hard - whatever you like. And that was my child-raising secret. Keep them moving. Good for them, good for you.

I was having anxiety during my relocation from San Francisco to Portland, retiring, selling one house and buying another, etc. My doctor advised 1000 IU vitamin D in addition to the 1200 mg calcium with 800 IU vit D I had been taking for a year. Calcium needs to be taken in divided doses, morning and night, since your body cannot process the whole dose at one time. And I ride my bike and do the stuff I used to do with the kids but now I take my dog! She's easier to feed, gives me lots of love, and doesn't require tuition money.

I know there are those who need treatment and medication for depression, and it's wonderful that so much is available. But it seems so common for women to suffer these things as we age and I am wondering if we are looking at it the wrong way. Instead of looking at it as something going wrong, can it be possible that there is a purpose to this?

Sofer - I don't know if men are as prone to depression and anxiety as women as we age. I didn't mean to leave you out!

Now, the roundup photos. I am amazed at the gardens! They all have their own personalities and are all wonderful. Lynn, it seems you and your husband are the perfect hosts! Photographers, thank you again for all your hard work. I almost feel like I was there! Now I have an urge to jump in the car and tour around Washington!

Summer, how did you get off Effexor without going insane? I have been taking it for about 3 years now, and if I am late taking a dose, I feel icky. If I miss a day, I cannot move my head without wanting to die. You are a strong woman!

Portland, come on over! The door is open. That goes for you, too, Summer.

I think I saw the fairy today. At the hummingbird feeder was a bee, wasp, hornet thing. Hovering in the same stance as the fairy, same color, exact same shape with the dangling legs. I thought 'Oh darn" that's it. Must have been very close to the camera not to the dog, and so was out of focus

Wow. Ow. I dunno. Certainly, I was uncomfortable for a few days. The Lexapro was worse, though.

It is absolutely, 100% true what Judi said about exercise. If you're on an uphill trail, breathing hard, you're probably not obsessing about your elderly father's choice in women. I think that's a major reason why women suffer this more often than men. Culturally, we sit around on our butts & stew over things, feel powerless. I wish women were into pickup basketball games, or at least racquetball. Refreshingly, women seem much more active here than in the Midwest.

Didn't mean to hijack the RU thread with my advice to Jan, but ... it sure does seem to be a topic of extreme interest, though. It's very encouraging to me to hear from people like Sofer who, once over the hump, found ways to take control & find meaning, rather than sitting around waiting to feel better.

One of my mantras is "stack the deck in your favor." Whether it's finances, emotions, health, jobs, everything we have no control over, make sure you are controlling the things you can. For me, that means such simple things as drinking water, eating more than an orange a day, and tackling the tiny, aggravating chores as they crop up so that they don't snowball & overwhelm me with their tiny monstrosity.

I know this thread is getting way too long for those on dialup. I have started a new thread so we can continue health discussions:

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1037351/

If you still have unpublished roundup pics or info,please keep this thread going, too.

I have 3 that I had missed, Sorry LOL

This is the discussion on Montbretia and crocosmia

Sum how I missed them

Last one, Then I am done

great! thanks again Mary for all of the wonderful pics you shared.

I'm posting here hoping everyone who was at my house during the roundup will see it. I am missing my special garden fork and wonder if anyone who was there remembers my using it? I know I used it to dig up some branches and plants, and that's the last time I've seen it. I've likely put it somewhere, but I've spent a few hours now looking everywhere for it, so I'm asking people to think back, waaaayyyy back, and let me know if you remember me using it. It's a pale green, sturdy fork with a wooden handle and is special because it was handed down to me by a man loved gardening and taught me a lot. If anyone has any ideas where I should look , post them, please.

I don't remember that tool specifically, but I do remember you using some tool and working pretty hard to dig up a chunk of the lacecap hydrangea by the walkway-way harder than I'd expected-sorry about that. :( You also dug up some other hydrangeas for me more over by your pond. ( I guess by southern rules I'm not supposed to thank you for them, but I really am looking forward to watching them grow.)

Melissa, I don't remember the tool specifically either, but when I left you were digging in the middle of the garden to the left of the house heading towards your pond area (middle of the garden is a very good place for tools to hide!) Was that the area of the tall rudibeka that you gave me a piece of? It is the garden that you said that the rhodies were moving from. Hope you find it!

Melissa, I used a fork to dig up the berginia you volunteered, can't remember what it looked like, but I am nearly positive that I brought it back to the other side of the house and propped it in the area of your plant offerings that were there. Hope you have been successful in finding it already!

Thanks, I will recheck a couple of areas today based on these comments. maybe over by the pond.

I saw it by the broom and kettle when you were stirring eye of knute, and wisker of kitten mumbling somthing like a mantra. LOL

Funny

hardy har har!! You weren't even here, so THERE! (sticking tongue out really, really far!)

Eye of KNUTE?

Someone here have a football jones?

gee, I just thought he couldn't spell.

ROFLMAO.

I always thought Rockne had sold his soul to the devil. Vinnie Testaverde too, for that matter.

I don't know who those people are. Are they important?

sports.

They aren't important anymore if they ever were. OLD sports figures. They all wore leather helmets.

Sofer you are an interesting and funny person.

You need to meet him, gets better LOL

Hi Tils, Hugs to you.

How do you spell knute? I thought I did it right. I just thought that Notre Dame had a special vision in brews. You have to know I don't use spell check on MY computer. Or have you noticed. The more mistakes I make the more I learn. That is my mantra. I shall humbly retreat to my mountain today with my motorcycle.

Have fun on your ride today, Sofer.
Julie, Don, Joey and I rode over the pass on our mountain last Sunday. It was a beautiful day for a ride.