I also need advice on lilies, My white casablancas 4 yrs old looking elegant until a stargazer got mixed up, now all showing pink. What happened and will my white ones return?
Who has bulbils?
Lefty, yes, I'm quite sure-was quite surprised myself last year. I figured it had something to do with one being a species lily? Vds#4 looks closely related to speciosum as well. Anyway, as a result, I've got a load of baby lilies this year. It'll be another year or two before I know who I've got for sure, though.
Not sure if this counts, but this lily known as DC #1 had bulbils last year and this year. It had bulbils present even before its first blossom. Of the DC's that have bloomed thus far, it is the only bulbil maker that I have seen.
That's one gorgeous lily, Mags. Definitely needs a new name and to get out into the world.
Thanks P-me for the nice comments. I really like it a lot, we shall see how she does over time, but she's still blooming as of tonight, so she's lasting quite a while out there. She gets points for producing bulbils, don't you think ^_^?
Absoluetly! Free babies? Can't beat that.
I just noticed that my Yellow Electric (first year here and a bit short and scrawny) has teeny weeny bulbils. Had to take a 2nd look to be sure they were there, but they were. None on my Electric though.
Some years ago I moved provinces in early june so nipped off all buds as soon as I saw them. You'd be surprised at the numbers of asiatics that produced bulbils.
Mainiac, thanks for the picture of Alex 2. Now I have another one ID'd. BTW, did you know that Alex 8 has finally been registered as Burnett's Beauty. Most of mine are labelled Alex who knows #.
Do you have Alex 3 & 4 as well? If so what colours are they.
inanda
Inanda, that's really interesting that bulbil formation can be induced that way.
Buggy Crazy's Dryrot formed a few bilbuls in it's 1st year.
Why would anyone name a lily "Dryrot" (dry rot)? Are you sure that's right?
I've seen it on buggy's website.
LOL Yes, that's the name. Lisa has a sense of humor.
I think she named it after her roof or house or something like that.
I see she has a new Asiatic coming out this fall named Starven. Somehow I think there is a bit of hidden meaning to that one...
http://buggycrazy.vstore.ca/index.php/cName/lily-bulbs-asiatic
Okeedoke . . . added to the list.
If Dryrot has bulbils and a flower this year, I'll change it to "always".
It did have a single flower this year.
'Tis the season for bulbils. Zeus Pink has a lot this year.
That's great, Moby. Who else?
It seems like there are far fewer bulbils here this year than last. Lancifolium, of course, Blood Tiger, and Robinson's Comet have them, but less than last year. I haven't noticed any others.
Remember everyone, I am still updating the
"Official DG List of Bulbil Bearing Lilies."
It can be found in this thread here:
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=6857452
Additions and corrections wanted!
Rick
Thanks, Rick!
Rick, Lilium lancifolium 'Florepleno' (Double Flower Tiger Lily) always has bulbils.
Thanks, tggfisk. I added it since it is a "common" one that might be confusing.
Everyone, please assume from my list, that if it is a species lily, all types, varieties and cultivars of that particular species will have said characteristic (unless otherwise specified).
For example:
- Lilium martagon
- Lilium martagon var. album
- Lilium martagon 'Claude Shride'
are all different, but are the same species.
Hi everybody.
I can report that L. leichtlinii and L. leichtlinii maximowiczii both produce bulbils. The former in my experience only when it is a blind stalk. Last year I had the biggest bulbils I have ever seen on a blind stalk, (see photo). The L. leichtlinii maximowiczii produces a lot more, so much so that I wonder if it has some L. lancifolium in it. (I got them in trade simply as "red tiger"). Also, of course, L. lancifolium flaviflorum has them too.
David
What makes you think it is L. leichtlinii var. maximowiczii and not lancifolium?
And where did you get the supposed L. leichtlinii?
I've never heard of L. leichtilnii producing bulbils, nor do mine from the SLPG(Species Lily Preservation Goup).
http://www.the-genus-lilium.com/leichtlinii.htm
http://www.deflorum.com/species/leichtlinii.html
P.S. If that is supposed to be L. leichtlinii in the immediate background of you pic too, then you definitely have an imposter. L. leichtlinii pedicels (the flower stems that originate at the vertical stalk) are at practically right angles with the stalk.
This message was edited Jul 26, 2010 6:44 AM
Well, I just went out and looked at my L. leichtlinii this morning, and it seems the pedicels after flowering do ascend a bit more, enough to make that pic of yours within a species variance. But, this is only an FYI. I still question it's species designation.
Cool your jets "Lefty". All my plants look exactly like the ones in Darm's photos at Species Lilium. I got the bulbs from BD.
Also, what makes me think it is not L. lancifolium is that I am not an idiot and I have both the possible L. leichtlinii maximowiczii and L. lancifolium and the difference is obvious. Here is L. lancifolium:
...And here is the other one
OK?
Gosh, really I only wanted to get to the bottom of your assertions, as experts far more learned than us disagree with you. I can't tell if the variance in you maximowiczii pic is within the parameters of the species or not.
I am not going to argue. My jets are "cooled," and I truly didn't mean any malice, but my plane hasn't turned around. I don't recall ever referring to you as an idiot, but I will say I have called myself that sometimes. LOL
I'll put your experiences on the list. Regarding maximowiczii, perhaps you can find some supporting evidence from another source that I couldn't find. With such dissension between you and what seems to be all the other experts, herbarium specimens, etc., I feel it only fair to include a caveat.
Rick
This message was edited Jul 27, 2010 3:28 PM
Nicely said, Rick- you're always a gentleman :-)
Actually I got the "red tiger" from the same person twice. The plants received the first time do not have bulbils, but the second batch has had them. I have become less sure of the "max" ID as time goes on. I will try to locate some correspondence I had on the subject of bulbils on L. leichtlinii with at least of the Lilium group people.
This is an Latvian hybrid named 'Ove'. It have a lot of bubils.
This message was edited Jul 29, 2010 9:41 AM
This one are also from Latvia. Don`t know it`s name. It has some bubils.
Here is a bether picture of 'Ove'
Very nice. I especially like your second lily.
Just wondering, Lefty. Do lilies sometimes have bulbils and sometimes not. Last year my Nutcracker had bulbils but this year none...
That's where the "sometimes" comes in in my list. Most often I'd say the bulbil inducement is the non-flowering stem. But it could be anything, even weird weather.
BTW, if anyone can help out, the "unknown" on my list means I couldn't tell by the poster which it is (always or sometimes).
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=6857452
(I did change Nutcracker, Mainiac. Thanks)