Zeus Pink makes bulbils too.
Who has bulbils?
That's good to know. I hope my Zeus will make bulbils. It's its first year here, and so far hasn't.
Nutcracker!
I think Zeus is different than Zeus Pink?
Yes, they're different which is why I've added it to this thread. Buggy makes reference to it being similar to Zeus, but not necessarily related.
oooooh I need a Nutcracker; it has been on my 4n want list. Thanks for posting the photo, Mainiac. It really does look super.
Yes it IS lovely.
Neal mentioned bulbils on Zeus too. It had slipped my aging mind for a minute.
Mainiac, waiting with baited breath for the rest of your list!
Bait breath? hee hee ;)
I won't have time today...
It's an old expression, y'know Moby. Anyway, I'm not going to hold my breath.
I was sure to collect them off the broken lily........but I think I lost them. Silly me :)
Hope you find them, SW.
As Moby correctly pointed out, I don't have worms in my anticipatory breath, at least to my knowledge.
Sorry to take so long. I took a good look yesterday and I really didn't find as many as I thought I had seen. I think the only other one is Zeus. Sorry if I disappointed you. If I find any others, I will let you know.
I have bulbils on 13 different varieties. Some bulbils are rather large, some very small, some at the top of the stalk, some all the way up the stem, varying quantities. Seven of them didn't bloom this year, some bloomed very well. Some were new to me this year, three are third year bulbs from The Lily Garden and have never bloomed. They've come from various vendors...Our summer has been unusually hot and dry, with everything blooming earlier than usual.
Seems Asiatic is the common denominator for the most part in this list.
Firetruck, Marilla, Starburst, Blood Tiger, Taco Sauce, Zeus, Zeus Pink, Champagne, Cathedral Windows, Bali Hai, Loreto, Yellow Star and First Crown.
Chocolatemoose, sounds like you're the jackpot winner this year!
Hot and dry in AK? Are you really in Zone 1?
I found another one today but it hasn't bloomed yet so i will need to wait until then before I will have a clue on what it is.
We'll go down to the minus 50's several times during the winter for a couple days to a couple weeks and will stay in the minus 40's for weeks at a time. North Pole (south of Fairbanks) is located between two mountain ranges so very little wind. An arctic desert all year. We've had more 80 degree days (and a couple 90's) in the last 3 weeks than we've had in the last few years during an entire summer ...Last year we had the cold, wet a lot of other parts of the country have this year.
I'm originally from CT, 1/2 south of the MA border. Where is Jamaica Plain?
Chocolatemoose, I live in Agawam, MA. Did you live in Suffield? I have enough trouble with the weather here. How can you bear it in AK.
Jamaica Plain is part of Boston. I can't even imagine what minus 40 or 50 would feel like (to humans or plant life). And we have barely started our hot weather this year. I don't think we've hit 90 yet. How strange the weather has been!
I have a tiger lily when you all talk about bulbils are you talking about the seeds that are all over the stem from top to bottom. I know that I started out with just one and now have about 7 out there blooming. I just figured the seeds dropped and that is how I got the new ones. Am I correct if not please let me know what bulbils are. My tiger lily is orange I am wanting to get the other colors they are so pretty. I have lilies all over my gardens but these are the only ones that I have ever seen seeds on.
Breeze1947
Hi Breeze. Yes, we're talking about those little bulbs that grow along the stem. Your new lilies could either be from dropped bulbils or from the bulbs forming under the ground.
Thanks perenniallyme for the information now that I know what you are talking about when is a good time to pick them off I would love to get them growing in other area of my gardens. Also if I wanted to do some seed trading over in that forum would this be something I could use to trade?
Breeze1947
If what you're seeing is like this http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=6824687 then they're not seeds, they're little bulbs, hence the name bulbils. They can't be stored like seeds as any type of lily bulbs is never truly dormant.
They can be traded as long as both parties understand how to handle them and that they need to be planted promptly.
Bulblets are another way that lilies clone themselves and these grow along the stem, underground.
Breeze, if they come loose when you touch them, you can pick them. Otherwise, I'd wait til they're loose and ready to drop. They're also not hard to find on the ground after they drop.
Thanks for the information I thought I could store them so I need to just take them were I want them to come up and get them in the ground. As far as trading them not a good idea because I don't know what I am doing. Help me here please I am very interested in getting them growning in other area of my gardens.
Can you tell me how to handle them for trade this is very interesting to me. I am talking to experts I love this any information would be helpful. Lilies are one of my favorite plants I have them all over my gardens and I go every year about this time when I find them marked down and buy them up I think I have bought about 25 this year already. I am looking for more interesting ones that can grow in zone 5. I seen one posted in here called dots and dashes been on different web sites looking for them with no luck.
Breeze1947
Breeze, if you're going to trade them, you should do it right away.
I'm no expert on planting them, but since they drop to the ground and root themselves in nature, I wouldn't plant them very deep. Maybe someone else has better advice.
I would plant them a half inch deep. You can store them for trade in a ziplock bag with barely moist peat moss or vermiculite, just as you might store larger bulbs, or similar to the ones you would buy mail order. I would keep them in the frig, or they might sprout, and you need to pass on this info to the one you trade with too.
P.S. I have a non-blooming Pink Panther making bulbils, too.
This message was edited Jul 23, 2009 8:43 PM
We need a comprehensive list of bulbil makers. And from this thread, here it is. Please correct any mistakes. I will keep the list updated.
Always = the type produces bulbils ever year.
Sometimes = plants must be induced (somehow) to produce bulbils.
Unknown = I couldn't tell by the post which it is of the above.
Alex 2 - unknown
America - sometimes
Bali Hai - unknown
Blood Tiger - always
Cathedral Windows - sometimes
Champagne - unknown
cheryl Ann - sometimes
Commander in Chief - sometimes
Dryrot - always
Firetruck - sometimes
First Crown - unknown
Indian Brave - always
Lilium bulbiferum - always
Lilium lancifolium - always
Lilium lancifolium var. flaviflorum - always
Lilium lancifolium 'Flore Pleno' - always
Lilium leichtlinii - sometimes
Lilium leichtlinii var. maximowiczii - always?(please see discussion below, beginning July 25)
Lilium sargentiae - always
Lilium speciosum var. album - sometimes
Lilium sulphureum - always
Loretto - sometimes
Marilla - unknown
Momentous - always
Nutcracker - sometmes
Ove - always
Pink Panther - unknown
Prawn Tiger - always
Queen of Spades - sometimes
Red Dutch - sometimes
Robinson's Comet - always
Rochelle - always
Starburst - unknown
Taco Sauce - always
Tiger Babies - sometimes
Tropical Dream - sometimes
Yellow Electric - unknown
Yellow Star - unknown
Zeus - sometimes
Zeus Pink - sometimes
This message was edited Feb 2, 2012 10:32 PM
Wow -Thanks, Lefty! So by unknown, you're saying at least sometimes, but possibly all the time?
I just checked my Pink Panther and it has bulbils along the upper half of the stem. This is my first year for it so I don't know if that is the norm.
That's right perenniallyme,
Unknown = the person who posted regarding said lily was unclear (at least to me) in his/her writing, whether the bulbil production is "sometimes" or "always". But it is at least one of them.
If known, I would appreciate a clarification.
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Actually, I have two first year Pink Panthers from bublets, one blooming, one not. They both are growing bulbils.
Mainiac or anyone else, what say you? Is PP sometimes or always?
I never really paid attention before (regarding bulbils). Except I know Robinson's Comet always seems to have them.
This one has bulbils -- first year for me. Cheryl Ann
Alex 2 has some bulbils coming on the lower part
Great - love those bulbils. I'm finding that while my lancifolium bulbils grow fast and quickly detach themselves from the stem, the bulbils on blood tiger (very large now) and robinson's comet are still stubbornly stuck to the stem. Especially peculiar as these have already bloomed, while my lancifolium hasn't bloomed yet.
I'm a bulbil fan, too! I'd put Taco Sauce in the "always" column for me. Last year both Buggy's vds#4 and l.speciosum album had tons of bulbils, so far none this year.They were new for me last year, though. I haven't seen any on Zeus or Firetruck either, but I'm having a hot and dry summer this year-could that be contributing???
Taco Sauce, duly noted. Susybell, are you sure about Lilium speciosum var. album last year having bulbils? Seems very unlikely (but not impossible) that any oriental would priduce them.
Anyone else have bulbils on orientals?
Yes, my 'Cheryl Ann' has a ton of bulbils too.
Every year for Cheryl Ann, Mags?
1st year lily here, so I can't say.