Comments regarding Reimer Seeds

The worst rate of germination from any seed bank I ordered from. Sometimes, you will get some other seed than what you ordered. I ordered some pepper seeds that were supposed to be from the Republic of Georgia. My friend from Tbilisi said the name was made up and not even remotely Georgian. Not one of 30 or more seeds germinated. I no not have this problem from Burpee or seeds i save myself. I sent an e-mail to complain and ask to evoke the guarantee. They sent an e-mail back saying that it was probably my fault. I gave them all the information they asked for then I never heard from them again. DO NOT BUY FROM THIS COMPANY.

So far not so good.
I placed an order for $65 worth of seeds at 1 am on the 7th. of February.
by the 13th of February, I had not heard anything from them, so I logged into the web site to check the status of my Order, and it said that the order has been paid for and not shipped (they received the payment on the 7th of February), so I sent an email asking for a Status Update. (I Including all the information from my Paypal Invoice/receipt, to help them find my order).

I received a reply very quickly telling me to Log into my account and to check the status of my order that way.

So I replied that I had checked that, and that it said that they had received my Money, but not yet shipped my order. and that I was wondering when my order might get shipped. I also mentioned that two other seed orders that I had placed with other seed merchants on the same day, had all ready been delivered.

I again received a very prompt response stating this

"Please read the Terms & Conditions of Sale and HELP page!
You did not add Expedited Service to the order.
The answers of your questions can be found in the Terms & Conditions of Sale and HELP page."

This was all they wrote in the email.

So I replied that I was not trying to be Nasty, and I had read the Terms and Conditions of Sale, and was just wondering when my Order was going to ship,
That I understood that according to their web site "It could take 7 to 10 business to receive the order during the busiest time of year.” (and yes the word was missing on their web site) (and Yes I let them know that the word was missing on their web site.

I then went on to say that if they had just told me that my order was still being processed and should be shipped by the end of the week, I would have been perfectly happy.

I have not received a replay to this email, however the entire "Terms & Conditions of Sale" page on their web site has been updated and corrected, but the status of my Order has not changed.

They have time to promptly reply to my emails and fix errors on the web site, but they do not have time to process my Order.

Now their web site says "Non-Expedited Orders take an average of 2-7 business days to leave our warehouse, and 3 to 7 business days for delivery time for First Class Parcel."

SO I will continue to wait untill the 19th of this month before I say anything else because with the worst case scenario of counting business days, the 19th would be the 7th Business day after I placed my order on the 7th of February.

I would actually be less concerned IF I was not treated so impolitely when I corresponded with them.

I am also concerned because recently other people have placed orders with Reimer, and have received their orders in Less than a Week from them.

My order shipped fast, I got everything I ordered, I even started some of the seeds (just a few) and every single one sprouted.
I guess I will order from them again next season (they do have a good selection of seeds...)

I ordered 5 packets of seed earlier this month, and received the entire order in less than a week. I haven't started the seeds yet, but I've ordered from Reimer in the past and have had no problem with delivery or seed quality.

I again should have found "Dave's Garden" prior to ordering from Reimer Seeds, or done what I normally do and check the BBB. After 8 days my account showed a paid/unshipped status. I, as any other person who makes and order wanted to know the status of my order. I sent them an inquiry as to the status of my order. Here is the contents of that email chain. The rudest and most unprofessional people I have done business with (I wouldn't call what they do business). I am bordering on they are a fraudelent company making alot of money from people who fail to take action for a $4-5 order as it's not the trouble. I am reporting this company to the Better Business Bureau. I do hope that you all do the same. Below is the email chain on a simple question of what is the status of my order questions.

Sir:

We answered your question below.
Don't you understand English?

We sent you numerous emails, including the last email below, and you keep
asking the same question over and over again, even though we provided the
answer to your question several times.

We cancelled the order and refunded your money.

HELP DESK

Reimer Seeds
http://www.reimerseeds.com


-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 3:18 PM
To: orderdesk@reimerseeds.com
Subject: Re: Order
Importance: High

I understand, but my question was, it has not shipped yet. What is
the status of my order? On my status is says paid/unshipped. When
can I expect it to ship?



On Jan 26, 2008, at 3:15 PM, Order Desk wrote:

Sir:

You did not read the HELP page as we in instructed you to do.

If you did read the HELP page you would have found the information
and would
not have had to send us one email.

Below is the HELP page concerning ESTIMATED DELIVERY TIME

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What is the Estimated Delivery Time and When Can I Expect the Order
to be
Shipped?


The estimated delivery time is:
3 - 7 days USA Orders - First Class Parcels

7 - 21 days International Orders - First Class Parcels


Non-Expedited Orders take an average of 2-7 business days to leave our
warehouse, and 3 to 7 business days for delivery time for First Class
Parcel.

We ship all orders via the United States Postal Service.

Add Expedited Service to future orders if you need the order filled
quickly.
Expedited Orders are filled before non-Expedited Orders and select
Priority
Mail or Express Mail for quicker delivery.

Expedited Orders take at average of 1-2 business days to leave our
warehouse, and 1 to 7 business days for delivery depending on the
shipping
method you selected during checkout. Expedited Orders placed on a
Friday
will be processed the following Monday.


The busiest time of the year is between December and June, so consider
selecting Priority Mail or Express Mail during checkout if you want
your
order to arrive more quickly. Add Expedited Service to your order if
you
want your order filled immediately. Remember, orders are filled in
the order
they are received, except for Expedited Orders which are filled
first. The
delivery time is based on when the order is shipped and what method of
shipment you selected during checkout. International Orders can take
longer
than 21 days, if the Customs Office in that country decides to
inspect the
package.

To check the status of your order, Login into your account and click
Order
History to check on when your order was shipped. In the upper left
hand
corner, the date the order was shipped is found after the words
COMPLETED.
The time of delivery starts from the time the order was COMPLETED.

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And, you did not add Expedited Service to your order, so the order
is filled
in the order they are received. If you did add Expedited Service,
your order
would have been filled the following work day.

Please read the HELP page concerning EXPEDITED SERVICE

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What is Expedited Service and Should I Add it to My Order?


Add Expedited Service to your order if you want your order filled
immediately. Orders are filled in the order they are received,
except for
Expedited Orders which are filled first. The delivery time is based
on when
the order is shipped and what method of shipment you selected during
checkout.

----------.

If you want us to cancel the order and refund the money, we would
gladly do
so.

Your order is scheduled to be shipped early next week.

And for the BBB complaints, people who report complaints are usually
those
who don't read the Terms & Conditions of Sale before completing the
order.
If you read the Terms & Conditions of Sale, which you were required
to read
before completing the order, you would have found all the questions
you had
about estimated shipping time and Expedited Service. We haven't had a
customer send so many emails about estimated delivery time as you
have.

We hope we answered all your questions and your order is on hold now
until
we hear back from you to see if you want us to cancel or ship the
order.


HELP DESK

Reimer Seeds
http://www.reimerseeds.com


-----Original Message-----
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To: orderdesk@reimerseeds.com
Subject: Order

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Reimerseeds,
this is the 3rd time I have tried to contact you concerning my
order. Please respond with something other than the auto reply. My
order hasn't shipped 6 days after ordering. I have checked your
status on the BBB website and see that you have had numerous
complaints. I would very much like to resolve this issue of you
communicating with me. Please let me know the status of my order and
when it will ship.

I placed an order with this company on Jan 9th for 5 packs of seed. I was not notified that 1 pack was not available and was put on "back order". Upon receiving the order today Jan 17th, I emailed their customer service asking to exchange the tomato seed for a packet of cantaloupe seed which cost exactly the same. I was told that they do not substitute under any circumstances even if it is their fault and that I could only be issued a credit. I was very rudely referred to their "terms and conditions" page on their site.

I would like to suggest that their website ordering system be made more customer friendly. It seems that their ordering system does not reflect good customer service i. e. the fact that an out of stock item cannot be substituted for another item of equal dollar value.

It is not the customers' fault that they do not have an item in stock when they have all control of their inventory and of updating their website to reflect current inventory status.

It seems odd on many levels that they would rather issue a credit or make the customer wait until they replenish stock than to substitute for another in stock product at the customer's request.

As a first time customer I would especially expect them to be more accommodating in effort to earn future business and I will definitely take this into consideration before doing business with their company again.

I placed a complex order for 57 packages of seeds with Reimer Seeds on January 5, 2008 , paid by credit card, and receive my order -- beautifully packed in a small Priority Box, complete except for one item back-ordered -- on January 10, 2008 via Priority Mail. I opened several packages and spot-checked for seed quality. Contents of every package that I checked looked fine.

Germination attempts are still over a month ahead of me, but I have had seeds not germinate now and then from EVERY supplier I have used over my 40 years of gardening. I don't always know what I did wrong, but it would be VERY UNFAIR for me to blame any seed seller for my occasional failures.

I can assure all new gardeners... and many experienced ones... that this website is worth a serious visit, if only for its extensive listing and pictures and descriptions.

Most sincerely,
An Ozark pepper grower

I have not started the seeds yet but I ordered them online on 1-2-08 and received them 1-8-08. They did back order my "Veggie Tales" sunflower seeds for my son but I was surprised my order came so quickly. Their web site was fun and I ordered pepper seeds originally from Korea and India.

Hi. As a commercial market gardener specializing in rare, unusual and exotic fruits and vegetables, I am always looking for something new. I was quite excited when I came across Reimers' website with what looked like some tremendous varieties that I had not seen elsewhere. I placed my order but a couple days later received an e-mail stating that my address was not in some database and unless I rectified the situation they would cancel my order. I responded to their e-mail assuring them my address was correct despite what their computer said. I have lived here for years and should know my address. Also, I deal with well over fifty companies from around the world every year and have NEVER had a delivery problem. Reimers and I went back and forth a couple of times until they agreed to mail my order if I would accept responsibility should there be delivery problems. I said "ok". Two days later I received an e-mail stating that since I had failed to fix my address problem my order was cancelled. A query to their company indicated that it was their way or no way. To this I pointed out that they had lost my business and that I, as a garden column writer, was going to share with my readers the dissatisfaction that I felt with their company. I then received a littany of nasty responses incuding calling me "too lazy" to fix the problem as well as calling me an "obnoxious Canadian". They even went so far as to point out that I was obviously not a good Christian (paraphrased) since I was "harrassing" them at Christmas. This is without doubt the most offensive "service" that I have ever received from a seed/plant company. Generally people in this line of work are fairly similar and willing to go that extra mile to help out another gardener. Not Reimers. It is conceivable that I just got someone on a bad day, but even so, such responses are unproffessional and inexcusable. Also, I have saved the entire chain of e-mails as proof should there ever be any dispute from Reimers as to the veracity of my statements.
There is obviously a reason that I had never (in forty years of gardening) heard of these people before.

They lure you in with all the varieties then screw you with crappy seeds or mystery seeds. Horrible customer service too. The only thing good about them is their website.

Here’s my Reimer’s Seeds story.

In March 2006 I ordered seeds from Reimer’s: Gypsy Peppers and Dona Tomatoes. I planted the pepper seeds and not a single one germinated. At this point I discovered Dave's website of complaints against Reimer’s.

In March 2007, as an experiment, I planted two Dona Tomato seeds from my remaining supply from the Totally Tomatoes catalog, and two Donas from Reimer’s. To my surprise, all four seeds sprouted. But it soon became obvious that one of the Reimer’s seedlings was NOT a Dona Tomato. The leaves were bigger and rounder, darker green, with heavy crinkling. I called it the Reimer’s Mutant.

In due time, I transplanted the seedlings outdoors. I put the Reimer’s plants in a separate part of the garden so I could keep an eye on them. In early July some kind of wilt attacked all my non-Reimer’s tomatoes (the two Donas from Totally Tomatoes, and two Early Girls from a local nursery). They sickened and shriveled. The Reimer’s Dona (in a different patch of earth) wilted a bit, but kept plugging along.

The Reimer’s Mutant, however, is SPECTACULAR. It resisted the wilt. It is seven feet tall and still growing (now in August 2007). Dark green and healthy even through this summer’s heat and drought. Its tomatoes are delicious.

I don’t know what it is, but I’m saving the seeds.

I placed an order (tepin and red savina) with reimerseeds a couple weeks ago from their site and I paid with my card. But until today (August 8, 2007), the order does not arrive yet. I emailed them and keep emailing them and ask, but unfortunately they threaten me by banning me from their site and they do not refund my money until today (August 8, 2007). This company is totally unprofessional and thief.

I ordered from this company because they had the seeds I wanted and could not get anywhere else (actually, the other company I tried to order from had an issue with their website and I could not get an order thru). Anyway, I ordered several types of hard-to-find tomato seeds last February.

I recieved the seeds in prompt fashion and placed them in the fridge until the appropriate time for me to start them. I did not follow the directions given to me for seed starting, because I have a method that works for me and I did not feel that deviating from it would be of any great benefit to me.

I had a great germination rate from everything I started (80-90%). Any day now I should be reaping what I sowed - have plenty of green tomatoes just waiting for the sun to return so they ripen up.

A huge selection. Starting seeds indoors following general instructions I had great success, over 95% germination.

Well worth considering. Remember, people are far more likely to post a negative review than a positive review, so take the negatives here with a grain of salt.

I had placed a order with Riemer seeds last week and i recieved the order in a very timely manor and i had absolutly no problems on the website as i had seen stated by another person in another comment but my major problem is the fact that out of 25 seeds i had planted which were Tepin Hot Pepper seeds Only one sprouted that is from what I believe less then 5% of a germination Rating

Avoid seller im not sure what is wrong with there seeds but out of 25 seeds at least and this is the least 15 of them should have sprouted i wish i only new about daves website before hand

In two words they are the rudest and the most unprofessional merchant I have dealt with on the internet.

I try to pass them an order which did not go through because of a 9 digit zip code matter.

When I asked them to explain me what it was they told me that I was "too lazy" to look at their help menu.

They have a section for comments on their site. When I passed them the exchange I had with their CS and explained the way I was treated the reply I received was that such reply was normal because "I was wasting their rime"

When I told them how rude they were they banned me from their site.

After having read all the negative comments on them in Davesgarden I am glad that my order did not go through.

FREINDLY ADVICE : DON'T BUY ANY SEEDS FROM THEM WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY SEEDS PROVIDER

I had a problem logging in to order my seeds from Reimer Seeds' website, so I sent them an e-mail to request assistance, and to ask questions about the seeds I wanted. A few days later I still hadn't recieved a reply, so for the next week I sent 3 more e-mails and have yet to get a response.
I also tried to post a review on their website, but of course all they have posted is "five star" comments from customers. What a crock!
After searching for someone else who carried the varieties I need I found this site and looked over the reviews. All I can say is I'm very happy I *couldn't* get my order in. I may have continued to try to contact them until I did get through, only to waste my money. Thanks Dave's!

I have ordered chili seeds from them twice, and will never do it again. As said in the previous comments, the germination rates are unbelievably bad! I mean if I calculate it, it isn`t even 10%. It would probably be better if you just left the seeds in their pods and threw them to the ground to wait for the next season! I really would be curious to know what they do to their seeds, to make them this lousy?

Only good thing is that their shipping is fast. But with seeds as bad as these it doesn`t make a difference.

I have ordered first time from this supplier.
After the order, I have received 2 emails for confirming the shippind and bill address.
I have answered with the correct addresses and they just ignore my 3 emails, and have sent the order to my bill address that is at Portugal and I am living at Brazil.
When I have complaint they just said that is my fault and that I have to find another supplier since I have been banned from them!!!?????
Who they think they are to ban one client??
Very bad;;; the worst I have found around.

Unfortunately, at least some of my Reimer seeds germinated. The Sweet Mama squash (semi-vining, 2-3 pound buttercup type fruit) turned out to be super-vining, and the biggest squash is now about ten inches in diameter. The vines are taking over my garden. I just hope the squash is good to eat.

I ordered a wide variety of seeds from them. First I never read anything till I received the seeds that said I would have to go buy exactly what they said to use or the guarantee wouldn't be any good. So I was out the extra money to do this and followed their instructions and the tomatoes had very poor germination. Then I went back and used the commercial mix I've used before and did it my way and germination improved a lot. Makes me wonder if they get a fee from the company they insist you use. For this reason I will try to find all my seeds elsewhere in the future. I'm not sure yet but one tomato appears to be different than listed. Will have to wait for fruit to tell for sure. After I read this site today I saw I wasn't the only one that experienced troubles with their seeds. Also had a few packets that was short the number of seeds supposed to be in there.

Well, I found this site today and read through all the posts on Reimer Seeds. I thought I would post my comments.

First, I thought their turn around for getting my order out was really good.

This was my first time ordering any kind of seed from anyone. My wife and I went to Peru where we had some of their Aji Amarillo peppers (long and bright orange when ripe). Reimer was the only place I could find that sold the seeds here in the US. Being my first seed order ever I ordered small. I ordered two packs of Aji seeds and as a bonus got one pack of Thai Dragon seeds for free. Of the Aji seeds, I followed the instructions and went to Home Depot and bought the the potting soil they recommended and used the seed started things. (Little round disks you add water to). It appeared that from all the plants that came up every seed but maybe one or two germinated, which I eventaully transplanted outside. We got a lot of peppers before they succumbed to Hurricane Katrina. (Beleive it or not all of the pepper plants in the yard came back but 1 this spring !!) OK, now I planted the Thai seeds doing it the same way. Its been over three weeks and not a single seed has sprouted. I never examined the seeds for spots or holes etc as other users described here since I am totally new to this and didnt know to look for that. So I dont know. One good experience and one bad so far.

As far as shipping rates. Yeah mine was the same. The USPS package listed the price as one thing and I paid more for "shipping". Then there was also the handling fee.

Here are my questions. I want to keep growing peppers etc. Wanted to grow the Thai's in pots. Do any of you have another company that you "recommend" that I can order more seeds from???? One that all of you have had good luck with. Also I will explore this site more, but like a good forum that I can post questions to regarding growing, tending to, etc etc pepper plants once they start. Any recommendations on that??

Thanks a lot.
New Pepper Man
Dwayne, Gulfport MS

reimer seed rip offs:
i like the rest of the gardening comunity ordered from the scroundrels and got really gouged!! i needed more than a bandaid: i ordered trhe rat turds and other assorted hot pepper seeds and the germination rate i got was ZILCH!! NADA!! BUPKISS!! SQUAT!!! out of 20 varties i got not even a weed!!
do if you order from reimers plant the package and throw away the seed you may have better luck

I ordered Big Zac tomato seeds from Reimers in January. They arrived in a few days. I started them a couple of weeks ago and almost all germinated within 7-10 days. From experience, I've learned that Big Zac doesn't come up as quickly as some other seeds.
So far...so good.

They say the customer is always right, which explains why my review is 'neutral' instead of positive. The members of this site are the customer, and you know best.

Of the cultivars I ordered from Reimers, I had a 100% germination rate. In no way, shape or form did I follow ANY of the instructions from Reimers on how to properly germ seeds. My family have been farmers for seven consecutive generations...how long has Reimer been in business?

Seeds were placed in moist (not soaking wet) paper towels. Placed in darkness (@70 deg. F) for 1 week. Seeds were removed from paper towels and placed into pre-soaked rockwool cubes. Cubes were placed in the bottom of a 5 gal bucket (from hardware store), covered with plastic wrap (my attempt to keep moisture in) and covered with thick bath towel, and placed in my closet. The bucked was heated with a heat lamp, for 12-15 hours a day (light was turned off while I was @ work). During "daytime" temp was @ 80 deg. F. During "nightime" temp was @ 65 deg. F.

I grew jalapenos (germed in 7-12 days)
habanero (germed in 11-14 days!)
*my first attempt at growing C.chinense and from what I understand, seeds popping in 2 weeks is quite good.*
cherry toms (germed in 13-20 days)
brandywine toms (germed in 8-19 days)

I grew several cultivars of each above mentioned species. The times listed are for all seeds to germinate...some cultivars took way long than others. some were quite speedy.

Anyway, I got my seeds quickly. I never had to talk to their customer service dept. I don't remember what I paid for S&H....but Im sure it was cheaper than buying a seasons worth of peppers and toms at the farmers market.

I had a good experience with Reimers. I was shocked (eariler today) to learn of others experiences with them. I guess I got lucky. To anyone considering using Reimer as a vendor, I wish you the very best of luck.

SL

I live in Australia. I bought several varieties of chilli pepper seeds from Reimer Seeds. These were Aji Brown, Atarodo, Peter Pepper and White Bullett Habanero. Online purchase was easy and the seeds arrived quickly for the distance. Reimer included a packet of Numex Mirasol as a free sample.
I planted the seeds the same way I have always planted my seeds (I grow 40 varieties of chilli pepper). One seed only from each of 4 varieties germinated.
I queried this with Reimer. Their customer service responded quickly requesting detailed information which I supplied. They replied that is was my fault because I did not use their recommended brand of potting mix (hello, I live on the other side of the world), I over watered and the temperature was not high enough. The other 15 varieties from other sources planted at the same time and using the same technique had 90+% germination. They did however refund the money for 2 varieties.
Their seeds that germinated are struggling to survive. It's very disappointing that they blame me and not their seeds.

I hold no claim to years of experience, but I'm good at following directions, and persistent. Initially, I excitedly ordered tens of varieties of seeds. Germination rate was about, say 6 plants total. Un-educated and, undeterred I ordered again. I dont care about the cost, I'm worth it. This time I controlled the conditions closely, monitored germiation rates visually and daily across hundreds of seeds; and yes, my experience was nearly the same as others here. Germination was predominantly "variety specific", except for the packages of 'rats turd", "goat weed" and "white bullet" seeds, which produced between them, 3 plants. One of which I am looking at now, and it aint no hot pepper. In fact I was trying to figure out what I grew when I stumbled into this melee!. Gosh I hope Riemer seeds doesnt get mad at me, but I aint skeered,. P.S. wife (ex-farmer) says I told you so.

I recieved several varieties of seeds from Reimer this season. The Red savinas, Tepin, and Rancho poblanos were good, however...
Chinese Multicolor - totally different pepper - long skinny, and not multicolor. Purple leaves only similarity.
Thai Dragon-Thai bird peppers instead - 1/2-3/4" long.
Firenza jalapeno-different jalapenos included with it 50/50
Ata Ijosi - totally different from last year - only 3/4" long, not 2-2 1/2"
White Bullet - very low germination rate
Hanoi Market - no gemination
Goat weed - no germination

My cousin had an even worse experience with her order.
Looks like I will be looking for another seed supplier as well.

I have ordered a whole bunch of seeds from Reimer and the shipping was quick and orderly. I have only started one variety as I bought them for next spring primarily. Of the one I started (Tiny Tim Tomato) I have 100% germination. Each and every last one of those seeds are popping up green parts. One must remember that temp or moisture variations in shipping can damage a seed. In fact I am thinking of not buying any more seed for a couple months because the temps here are really high and that could damage a seed sitting in a metal mail truck.

If I have germination problems with the other varieties I'll be sure to come back here and let everyone know.

After all the negative comments on seed germination from Reimer seeds, I waited until all had germinated to comment. The turn around and accuracy of the order was excellent. Hot peppers especially the rare ones are finicky so I waited until they all all germinated. No problems. Others(non-pepper) cultivars also did well

well i ordered some seeds, red savina, tepin, and they also gave me a free packet of NuMex Conquistador, they shipped pretty fast. and i planted my seeds in a home made micro green house, shined 2 lamps on it. and had a pharmaceutical heat pad under it, id say about 50% of the red savinas sprouted, of the 20 some seeds they gave me, and about 6 tepins sprouted and a few numex, i only really care about the red savinas, which had a good sprouting rate. its nothing like the less than 5% i heard about, but not as good as some scotch bonnetts seeds i bought at the store. all in all not that bad, go ahead and order from then just plant the seeds properly. keep them warm, about 80 degrees, and dont use soil thats mostly peat moss.

Only ordered a few seeds from them, good thing, only one variety germinated. That was one I could have bought anywhere, I only ordered it to spread the high shipping cost.
The varieties I wanted, no one else offered, we got the standard 2% germination. (Their Standard!)
They were on my favorites list, no longer. Will never order from them again.
This was a very small order, so didn't waste my valuable time contacting them. (Sure didn't want more of their seeds.)
Lesson #1, should have looked here before ordering!

I have purchased from Reimer Seeds for 3 consecutive years and enjoyed the varieties. They always gave free packs of seeds with each order.

I always had great germination rates and would highly recommend purchasing from them.

They are always adding new and exciting varieties.

I give a A+++++ rating.

Some questions for Reimer seed company:

What are your seed storage conditions?

What is your source for pepper seed?

What kind of guarantee does your source place on the seed?

How old is the seed?

Is the genetic purity of this seed guaranteed?

Do you grow your own peppers?

If so, how are you isolating the plants, sexually?

And if you aren’t growing these peppers yourself, how can you be assured of the viability?

What are your seed testing conditions?

Stats?

Did you use a control group?

What precautions do you take to ensure that no seed born pathogens make it to the end user?

What kind of quality control do you use to ensure that the seed you offer, for 1265 hot peppers alone, is viable?

(Not that I've got a dawg in this fight yet but planting season is here)

I would like to state I haven't ordered from this company, nor would I. I'm writing on behalf of the many threads & posts I've read from fellow Chile-Heads over the years. I spent two days tracking down this thread from The Garden Web. It's in their archive & all the other URL's I listed are dead end's or need more days of tracking them down. I did recieve the Arrivivi Gusano from PaulB & they were junk, period. As I remember, of the 10-12 seeds he sent in bubblewrap, only 2 were whole & neither germinated. While chasing down this thread, I found another, then another, here's the three threads:
//web.archive.org/web/20030814052723/forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pepper/msg0400210929710.html
//web.archive.org/web/20030803181106/forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pepper/msg0308311325704.html
//web.archive.org/web/20030425200509/forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/pepper/msg0411021421637.html

I hope Reimer's responds to this post that I never bought seeds from them, therefore this post should not have been allowed on Dave's Forum. Then I hope they track down all those on the Garden Web were groundless & complain to Spike Hernendez that those posts should not have been allowed. Then maybe they'll find another forum with complaints & complain to the webmaster that those were due to buyers that don't know how to start seeds.

Quoting "Honest Abe":
"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
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NorthEast_ChileMan
I was going to add a comment like, "Reimer's, your reputation is already tarnished, stop damage control & fix it!", but I figured that was addressed in the responce about exorberent charges for shipping & handling, and more charges for handling...... If you want to pay $2.50 more you can download the free online catalog to your computer so you look at all those seeds that won't germinate.....(//www.reimerseeds.com/category.aspx?categoryID=445)

Course they'll give you your 2 fifty back after you pay for seeds that won't germinate, S&H, handling fees, state taxes, smoke & mirror expenses............

Forgot.... One last thing..... Reimer's..... You can add me to your list of barred people from ordering from you. If you ever get an order with an 01844-5135 ZIP Code, PLEASE refuse it!!!!!!!

I ordered seeds from Reimers and germination of what were very expensive seeds approached 0%...in fact it was less than 5%.

I called reimers and they tried to blame the failure on me. I have been germinating seeds for a very long time and am quite successful. Other seeds from other suppliers germinated just fine.

Bad seed, bad public relations, high prices from Reimers.

I can confirm what has been posted here.

We are commercial producers of exotic seeds and grow a large number of peppers and other plants every year.

Bought seeds in 2003 and had no or very poor germination with all of the pepper seeds ordered. Control our own seeds 1-2 years old

Most of the seeds had red stains and were brown resulting from processing from dried pods or overripe pods

After my complaint they answered with the well known prewritten

a) Did you follow our instructions ?
b) We are not responsible for international shipments, as the seeds may be radiated !

We are growing peppers for more then 30 years and may have more experience then any of the Reimers gardeners (if they have one ?).

Then they sent me a gift certificate of the value of the pepper varieties not exhibiting any germination.

I then ordered from this certificate 10 other (easy) varieties in 2004 of which 4 didn´t exhibited any germination (tried twice). One poor germination and five ok. Control seeds from tomatogrowers which had all perfect germination.

This is all in all twice and more the price to get a variety - I payed at least 4 to 6 Dollars for one viable variety - the exceptional shipment costs of the less then 1 Oz. shipment not included.

Reimer claims in there respond to jasonnickels voting there good standing of the eBay account.

We are eBay sellers as well with 99.9 % standing and more then 30.000 sold items.
If you have a look at the votes of eBay clients of Reimer, they are voting all for speedy shipment on receipt of the seeds and not for speedy germination.

If Reimer wants I can ask the eBay customers about their germination rates.

Last but not least - Today before this posting here - I placed an order at the Reimers site to give them a third chance.

Everything went right - 7 packages of hot pepper seeds 20 Dollars --- shipment costs !! 7.50 Dollars --- handling costs 2.50 Dollars -- ok Dollar is low against Euro at the moment and my bussiness is running perfect - I payed via Paypal.

But what a surprice -- within a few minutes I had a cancellation of my order and full refund of the payment.

I couldn´t beleave it and asked the Reimer customer service to explain this.

Short and very precise answer : You have been banned from ordering from our website.

I still don´t know what I´ve done wrong and expect an explanation of the Reimer customer service.

As they read all these posts here, they can do it right here.

Happy gardening

semillas

We are a commercial chilli grower in the UK, some seed we buy in bulk but we grow many experimental varietes and source this seed from all over. We have learned to buy from different sources to guarantee results. The Reimer website, ordering & delivery process worked fine. But most of their seed was completely sterile. All the seed we bought was not only grown in perfect conditions, but also alongside seed of the same varieties from other sources. Most of the Reimer seed did not germinate at all. & that which did was at a very low percentage. We will never buy seed from them again & suggest others go somewhere else too. It looks from these comments that they use the "you didnt follow our instructions" excuse on everybody, but we have done controlled testing on what they sell & it proves they are ripping people off. Go to tomatogrowers.com instead!

I should have checked this forum before ordering. I ordered 8 packages of seed from Reimer's. I cannot complain about the time of delivery, it was good. The prices for the seed were fair, even though there is a smaller amount of seed in the packs than I expected it is fair. The problem I had was with their "Shipping" and "Handling Fee". These are two seperate entries on the Sales Receipt. The "Shipping" is further defined under "Description" as "USPS First Class". I did receive the package in First Class mail. The postage that Reimer's actually paid was $.60 and yet they charged me $3.50. They also added "Handling Charges" under "Handling Fee" of $2.50. I contacted them complaining. They emailed back that the "Shipping", "USPS First Class" included packaging and selection of the items. I disagreed with them and explained that their listing of "Shipping", "USPS First Class" clearly defined the postage cost and nothing else.
They emailed me back with the following:
We are not overcharging. We explained the shipping charge.

Please order from another company in the future.

Customer Service

Reimer Seeds

http://www.reimerseeds.com

This indicates to me that they are not interested in serving their customers or responding with a solution to complaints.

I feel that this company is using the double charges "Shipping" and "Handling Fee" for extra profit which should really be derived directly from the price of the seeds themselves, not these underhanded charges.

Gordon Hale
Grand Prairie, Texas