Giant Pumpkins Atlantic Giant

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

Amigatec, I see your edit shows me all the details now. I don't blame you for measuring. I get impatient too. It looks real good.

I got a late start because of all the rain. We have above average rain fall.


This---one of the 936 Clones. I don't think one of them will make it.
I had cut all the large leaves off so there isn't much to see. It has 4 feet of vine buried.
Has 4 small secondaries starting to grow----hard to see in this sunlight. I think the rain is gone for a long while.

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Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

My little pumpkin finally started laying down. And the storm we had washed the blossom petals off. That was a really strong wind storm. No vines broke,---just leaves. And Leaves are important.

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Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

I am using sand to slowly move the pumpkin perpendicular to the vine.

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Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

The tent.
has fitted sheets------I need flat sheets----some big ones. I'm still working on it.
I made it extra big so It will be easier to check on the pumpkin, measure the pumpkin, without damaging it by working in small space.

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Cricket this is a great thread !
i love it
wow on the growth of that pumpkin
I m only growing a the cinderella pumpkin . I only have 4 plants that lived :( but i m hopeful .
i just never have any good luck with squash and stuff. Bugs just get to them first :( but i still try every year.
I m getting the big monster pumpkin itch oh oh . Another fallen victim to big pumpkin growing

Haskell, OK

Growing a monster isn't for the faint at heart, these are a lot of work. I have most of the plant work done, now it's time to work with the fruit. I have spent clsoe to $500 for just 3 plants and I'm not done yet.

Los Alamos, NM(Zone 5a)

Wow! That is an expensive hobby. But sounds like fun. Where do you get the seed from these pumpkins? I doubt if they would get very large here in the cool dry mountains, but I have a neighbor has grown some very attractive ones in his yard. But they must way maybe 20 or 30 pounds -- nothing like what you guys are going for. I will be checking this thread to see how you are doing.

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

Thats about right on the money when you start adding everything up.
I even bought 2 50 ft heat cables to start mine early but it was so rainy that I never could til the ground to get it ready. This year I will have the ground pretty much ready this fall.
I am receiving a seed in the mail by Monday or Tuesday. It is the 275 Van Hook.
I wish I could grow it this year. I been adding days up to see if it is possible. I don't want to grow it for any fairs. I don't need a Fair to register state record. All you need to do for state record is have your pumpkin weighed at certified scales, photos, state extentions office as witness, certificate of weight. All that said, figuring I need 7 weeks to grow plant , 8 to 10 weeks at the least to grow pumpkin, Puts it at Oct 13 for good growth time(70 days) , but also have to pollinate 1st week of August.
Our first frost is between Oct 15--30th. Should I chance it or save it????????

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

YOu can get the seeds from many places. The best time to seek seeds is during the winter. http://www.bigpumpkins.com
You could read some diary notes at bigpumpkins to see how you should grow in your area. Get ideas that way.
http://www.PandPSeed.com
http://www.hollandgiants.com
Sometimes you can get seed free from giant pumpkin growing friends if you send a padded addressed stamped envelope.

Los Alamos, NM(Zone 5a)

Thanks for the information! That sounds like so much fun, but perhaps something that it is easy to become obsessed over.
I read somewhere about a guy who fed his giant pumpkin beer. Have you all heard of that?

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

I have heard that.... I have heard they feed them home-brew, but most of the home-brew they talk about is a processed manure tea brew. Or maybe I misunderstood. I have fed my garden beer before. It was a mixture of 1 can beer, 1 can coke, 1/2 cup of mouth wash, 1/2 cup of instant tea, 1/2 cup fish emulsion put into a dial-and spray and set at 4 tsp per gallon. You have to use all that right away because of the fish emulsion.
Not sure what the beer and coke provides. I know the mouth wash acts as a fungicide remedy. All together it boost the garden.

The little pumpkin is still shiny------thats a good thing. When they loose their shine , means it will abort.
I was getting impatient on my OTHER 820*Lovelace seed. (green squash) I sowed it a week ago. Sunday June 7th. I did not think it was goin to germinate. This is not a good thing to do-------but i gently pulled the top soil away from the top of the seed to see if it was doing anything --or was i watching dirt for nothing. : ) the seed has opened and a leaf is present. So i fed it some fish emulsion, seaweed, and liquid fertilizer. Hope I did not disturb it too much. I want a Green Squash Pumpkin for Halloween. Something different.

Happy Gardening

Los Alamos, NM(Zone 5a)

I have also hear beer is good for the compost pile. Makes it heat up. I have a bunch of bottles of old beer -- it doesn't keep well, I understand. It will soon go into the compost. DH and I don't drink beer but we buy it when our beer drinking friends come over.

Haskell, OK

That 275 Van Hook is a sought after seed. I don't know it only went 275 lbs, but the parents it came from were huge.

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

I don't drink beer. I think it's nasty and people who drink it stink. But thats me.
(child hood horrors)

I took another photo today and I personally compared it to the first pumpkin I ever grew. This plant is bigger, and the pumpkin is bigger at 4 DAP. I hope that means something good.

Amigatec---- My brain tells me to wait and grow the 275 next year. My heart says grow it now. Slap me! (wonder how many seeds I will receive? ) If its only one seed---will definitely wait til next year...


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Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

Amigatec, could you tell me what
S-S ( side to side)
F-B ( ?) assuming end to end
stands for?

our state record is 401.5. But my goal is 500 lbs.
I was so close to state before----and had plenty time to get there if it had not stopped growing.
I know I can do it!!!!!!!!! Hoping my stupidity stays out of my way.

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Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

I been looking back at Yesteryear. The thread on my 2007 pumpkin and I remember how exciting it was to watch that pumpkin grow. Then to compare then, to now.
Its even more exciting.
I would be so very sad if something happens to my plant right now.
I am worried about it-----with all the heat. They say the more sun the leaves get the bigger the pumpkins will grow. But my struggle is this, if the heat is too bad the leaves will burn and if the leaves burn, the pumpkin won't grow well.
I have to decide if I want to put up 30% shade cloth again like I did with the first pumpkin plant ----which helped a lot-------or chance burning ....... but I am also using a misting cooling system this time which means I have to spray more often with fungicide............
To Do, To Do,

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

INDY changed (his/her ?) name. I like Dividedsky.

Indianapolis, IN(Zone 5b)

Thanks. It suits me better. Didn't know I was going to stick around when I first signed up.

I don't know about growing giant pumpkins, but I know fabric, especially sheets unless they're finely woven, lets a good amount of sunlight in.

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

the pumpkins need a little shade to prevent them from scorching in the sun. They dont have to have 100% shade.
I bought cheap sheets today. 200 count fabric---.....
The top of the tent actually has double sheet on it. It took two sheets to cover the tent frame. So the top had double overlay.
We got a storm tonight and the storm blew the sheets off. The sheets did not damage anything that we could see in the dark---flash light. Don't know what the plant looks like yet. 100 miles away the storm blew a mobile home off its foundation. Folks were trapped inside. So sad to loose your home.

a second female should be opening in the morning. The female looks fine but her blossom petals look retarded. Can't wait to see the lobes/ segments.

Some more experienced pumpkin growers have told me that they start measuring the females at 5 DAP, and compare that 5dap to other females at 5dap to see which one is growing faster.

Happy Gardening

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

I went out to pollinate #2 on the 936. The blossom was only half open.= Not ready.
The blossom was open enough to see the segments. There is only 4 segments and they are deformed along with the blossom petals and I don't want it. It will be a deformed pumpkin in the future. The next female #3 looks to have the same problem as this one. I am cutting them both off the vine today. X X
It is early in the game but I have already made my decision.

Keeping the 1st
almost perfect 5 segments
Today 5 DAP , 12 inch CC. (measurement from stem end to blossom end and did not include the outtie belly button)



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Haskell, OK

1081 Leonzi

S-S: 20 (Side to Side)
F-B: 21 (Front to Back)
C: 28 (Circumference)
OTT: 69 (Total of 3 measurements)
Total est weight = 10.5 Lbs
Weight gain = 2.2 lbs (Jun 15th)
Weight gain = 4.4 lbs (Jun 16th)
Target Weight: 700 Lbs
Weight to go: 689.5 Lbs


1112 Holland

S-S: 15
F-B: 17
C: 21
OTT: 53
Total est weight = 4.8 Lbs
Weight gain = 3.0 (June 15th)
Weight gain = 4.8 (June 16th)
Target Weight: 700 Lbs
Weight to go: 695.2 Lbs


I also have a fruit set on the 1024 Biss as well.

Haskell, OK

500 lbs should be easy to hit, I'll bet the SR is low because there are no active growers. I only know of 5 in Oklahoma, and I know that at least 3 are growing this year.

Haskell, OK

If you don't want to plant that 275 Van Hook, you can always send it to me. :)

I think I would wait until next year and give it a good chance.

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

I am getting extra 275 Van Hooks. should know by Monday how many and will send you the 275.
The reason it was only 275 pounds is cause John Van Hook grows some late pumpkin that he is only after cross breed genetics. He does not feed them like he does his others for Weight.
the 275 Van Hook "2006" is 1443 Palmer X 1407 Wolf
I have plenty of time to start the seed, let plant grow 7 weeks, then let pumpkin grow 8 weeks. The trick is getting it to pollinate. ( small air conditioner)

Here is my thought on Heat and Sunlight.
they say you need a lot of sun light to grow these giants. they say the north gets more sunlight day hours than the south. But most of the places that are growing these world record giants get an unbelievable amount of rain which equals a lot of cloudy days. Cloudy days! thas less sunlight in my book. but they are also cooler. My plants flag and burn on hot days like today (96*). they are happier and healthier when i put 30 % shade cloth over them. Thats not much shade.
If the leaves are burning then you have less energy to the pumpkin. But if you have healthy leaves then you have more energy.
I put 30%shade cloth on the 936 holland today. she was a much happier plant.
Danged if you and danged if you don't!!!!!!!!
Just figuring out what works for me.
I have seen growers grow their patch in between trees cause they had a small yard and they grew almost 1000 pounders. They had some shade at some point. They also used misting systems to cool the plant off.
oh well,,,,,,,,,,its all fun.

Haskell, OK

Thanks!! I knew the 275 had some good genetics to it. It's been in the 90's here all week and my plants just look great. I use a misting system as well. I seem to be having a problem with a certain rabbit eating my leaves. I had a little talk with with him, so I guess if him won't leave on his own I will go to phase II, the live trap.

A little update.

1081 Leonzi

S-S: 25
F-B: 25
C: 34
OTT: 84
Total est weight = 17.5 Lbs
Weight gain = 7 lbs This is Good!!
Target Weight: 700 Lbs
Weight to go: 682.5 Lbs

She has almost doubled in size since Sunday.

Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

Maybe you could include DAP when you take measurements.

My pumpkin aint growing very fast. And maybe im paranoid but I think she is loosing her shine. :(

weather man says heat index yesterday was 100.
But the shade clothes that I put on the plants helped a lot. No flagging.

936 under 30% shade

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Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

Somebody gave me a scary thought the other day. They thought the blossom end had a long Outtie and they were not sure but thought pumpkins with long outties were prone to blossom end splits. Thats a disturbing thought!

They say slow and easy wins the race-------I think this is too slow.
Yesterday 6 DAP


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Nauvoo, AL(Zone 7a)

A top view of the patch with shade cloth on 936 and 820*
I have shade on the 898 and the 936 clone===but don't have pictures yet.

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Haskell, OK

1081 Leonzi

S-S: 29
F-B: 30
C: 41
OTT: 100
Total est weight = 27.1 Lbs
Weight gain = 9.7 lbs
Target Weight: 700 Lbs
Weight to go: 672.9 Lbs

1112 Holland

S-S: 20
F-B: 22
C: 31
OTT: 73
Total est weight = 12.2 Lbs
Weight gain = 4.7
Target Weight: 700 Lbs
Weight to go: 687.8 Lbs

Haskell, OK

We are having 90+ days here and my 1081 is going like a rocket. I don't think the heat has bothered it. That Outtie doesn't look that bad to me.

Haskell, OK

I think my 1112 is developing Dill Rings. I am not sure I will have to take some pictures and look.

Seale, AL(Zone 8b)

I tell ya I can't wait to find out what you both end up with. This has been one amazign thread and the dedication to growing thes e varietie s and to the porportions you are is astounding.

Have to admire both of your dedication and the shade shelters and such, just somethign else to see.

Watchign and learnign and maybe next year will be brave enough to try my giant pummpkin seeds.

PEMBROKE PINES, FL(Zone 10a)

this is the coolest thread!! i will follow it until the end. good luck and happy gardening to you both :)

Haskell, OK

1081 Leonzi

S-S: 33
F-B: 34
C: 47
OTT: 114
Total est weight = 37.9 Lbs
Weight gain = 10.7 lbs
Target Weight: 700 Lbs
Weight to go: 662.1 Lbs

1112 Holland

S-S: 23
F-B: 26
C: 37
OTT: 73
Total est weight = 18.5 Lbs
Weight gain = 6.4
Target Weight: 700 Lbs
Weight to go: 681.6 Lbs

If the 1112 doesn't start growing faster I may cull it, I have another fruit pollinated.
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Haskell, OK

34 lbs in 5 days, not to bad.

Haskell, OK

These do take a lot of work. I willo post pictures in a couple of days.

Los Alamos, NM(Zone 5a)

So, what are Dill Rings? Are they good or bad? Do you have to take a picture to see them?

Haskell, OK

They look like a band has been placed around the fruit. They will look like a peanut. This normally means it is a weak spot and likely to split.

Los Alamos, NM(Zone 5a)

Oh, so not a good thing. Thanks I learned something.

Seale, AL(Zone 8b)

I was wondering about the dil ring too.

Amegatic.. I f you cull the 1112 Holland you have growing now, this late in season, with heat, wil othe r one you pollinated stil l have time to get to your targeted weight.

Would lov e to see more pic s when you both have time. be interestign to see who wins the pumpkin weight race. LOL

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