Clematis blooms, Everyday

Sharkey: Lovely blossoms! Congratulations on your clems. I only have a couple so far: a jackmanii, a Nelly Moser and Kilian Donahue. The NM and KD are small plants just set out, so it'll be a while before they produce anything noteworthy. Dr. Rupple and Fireworks look great!

I'm confused... I thought both Fireworks and Dr. Ruppel had the coloring of the darker bloom. From the pictures I've seen, the white bloom is gorgeous, but doesn't look like either Fireworks or Dr. Ruppel. Am I wrong? (I'm a clem newbie, so I definitely could be wrong...)

Did you by chance purchase Bees Jubilee last year? That light one looks like Bees Jubilee to me... or maybe C.W. Dowman or Fairy Queen...

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Those bicolor blooms def. have driven me to stir crazy! I can't tell which is which anymore! Leave it up to me, I would name them Nelly Moser and maybe Dr. Ruppel (the darker bloom of the two), but don't take me serious on this subject. I've given up.

Lily, I was about to mention Nelly Moser too. I was trying to find which were white with pink bars to suggest, but there are so many of them!!! Lincoln Star has that color combo too.

I still have the original tags, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't have been switched at Lowe's by mistake. The lighter blooms seem to be fading a little. Some have been there a week and they are in full sun half a day. I'm sure one of our more experienced gardeners will be able to tell us. I'm finally learning to use my clippers on these new liners I have. I've seen how fast these things can grow once they establish some roots. I'm excited about some of the color combos that I've just planted. I'm sure I'm making mistakes along the way, but it sure is fun.

The blooms look white in the photo, but they start out lavender.

This message was edited Apr 21, 2009 7:55 PM

Shakey, they're beautiful. Doesn't matter what name tags they wear. :-)
This is Nelly Moser I think, it receives late afternoon sun. The fully bloomed out flower is very large.

Thank you, Lily, It looks as if I wasted one of my nice plant markers. But, that's okay. I'm just glad I have ANY blooms at this point. I didn't have a NM and I'm glad I didn't buy one now. Are you sure enough for me to change my marker? I guess I could paint the metal marker white and use a black paint pen to correct it.

By no means! Don't change a thing. Wait 'til Jeanne has a chance to share her opinion. Like we've mentioned before, different temp. sun/shade a cultivar of flower may show different coloration ect. Just enjoy them. I would.

I had some spent blooms on mine today, instead of letting them go to seeds, I clipped the spent flowers on Nelly today, and look like the vine is continued to sending out more new growth with flowers buds on the subsequent wave of blooms. We were under wind advisory effect today -- up to 20mph wind. There were more clems opened up today but I didn't get outdoor to take pix.

Here is one of 'Multi-blue' contrasting with the dark red of 'Don Juan' climbing rose.

I have Nelly Moser and find it, like, duh. I prefer more vibrant colors, maybe mine is not in the right location and, or with the right plants. I also find Don Juan, rose, pretty, duh, too, so what do I know - most think Don Juan is heaven. Mine is slow to grow and so dark in color that it's often overlooked. I dunno.

Sherry, I agreed with your candor. With such dark red, if Don Juan is kissed by strong wind, it can turn ugglyyy real fast. lol. I tried a newer Pink Don Juan, and I like it better. Will have pix to share on the new Pink Don J. You know what they said "real men know how to wear pink" we shall see. lol.

Lily, your Don doesn't look like my Don... I wonder what causes the difference. Here's a pic of the top of mine from last fall, soon after Gustav blew through. I've never noticed a problem with my blooms during wind. The bush is usually covered with blooms all the way from the bottom to the top, some 10 feet in the air and well above the fence line.

I just got a Pink Don Juan this season and will be planting it within the next few days. Here's a bloom on it. I'll be training both the red and the pink Don Juans on those chains that are along the top of this pic (strung between birdhouses) with montanas intermingling.

This message was edited Apr 21, 2009 11:36 PM

I love those two colors together. I just planted a multiblue next to my steps to the deck where there is also a double red knock out rose. I planted another multiblue with Belle of Woking. They will be in a very large pot (an experiment for me) next to a climbing Fourth of July rose. What do you think?

Evie, my red D.J. rose isn't performing its best 'cause it's confined in a pot I think. You're correct yours look alot more exuberant with better form.

Shakey, congrats on yours, those will turn out great. Multiblue clems have done great for me. I've a Belle of Woking, I was told that this cultivar will take longer to shine in my climate. Niobe which shared the same culture of that which I planted my 'Belle of Woking' Niobe is thriving, whereas BoW is not yet .

belle of woking is a harder clem to establish than niobe. it frequently dies back in first year or two.. i have two , that are entering year 3 and look very vigorous right now. but last year only got a few blooms. it is more like duchess of edinburgh. multiblue is the easiest true double, large flowered clem to establish in my experience.

CG;

Sharkey, you label your clems like I do, name and the group category. I would say darkie is Dr Ruppel, don't know about the light one. I'm no expert, just saying Dr Ruppel 'cause I have it and it looks like yours.

Speaking of labels, last night I skipped over to the perennials forum and made a discovery. There is currently a coop for labels until May 1. I ordered some. They didn't offer the exact label I wanted, but it's similar. They also have replacement plates in various colors and mini labels. If any of you are interested, you may want to check it out. I paid 70 cents each locally for the labels you see in the pic.

I made the mistake of not logging in all winter and missed a coop for pepper seeds.

well i sent an d mail this morning to someone who is in the admin area at dg about the stickie request and what the process was. we'll see if she responds.

Another look at some of my clematis in the garden this weekend. New pix will be posted later this afternoon. Stay tuned. ^_^

wow beautiful. are they growing on trellises or are they just working their way upn on their own. That area seems mighty shady and yet the colors are very vibrant. got names?

This is a better view of most of the clematis that are blooming now in the garden. From this view I'm pleased how the blue clems. provide contrast with other red roses in the front yard. ^_^

Vossner, the 'shade' pictured in early morning when the sun rays were off to the side. As you can see the last picture when it looks brighter. The area is South facing, thanks goodness to tall big trees in the area that provide some shade during the hot summer months.
The clematis, I've but a few. The bicolor ones Nelly Moser, Fireworks, Earnest Markham, FH Young, The President (I think), and Multi-blue. I've General Skikoski in a different area that hasn't opened yet. Oh almost forgot Jackmanii, Henryi, and Polish spririt, oh one more Asao. Hmm, 10 and all that I've collected over the years.

lily love, very pretty garden. do you get bothered by snails down there and powdery mildew with the close planting?

Snails and slugs garlore here, CG. Also mildews especially with my garden situates by the lake side. I've followed your tips and other members on snail control program on other threads. :-)
I use deconyl for mildew and blackspots, it works well for me.

are you using crushed oyster shell around the base of all the plants in the group? it is amazing, and pretty cheap. 9$ for 50 lbs in feed store. i buy several hundred pounds and top dress the areas around the clems, it reflects light and looks good at night and eventually compresses into the soil and improves it. the light reflection helps shady areas get more from the sun shine they do get, it is not planted too densely for the sun to hit the oyster shell (any light colored gravel or rock provides this benefit)
oyster shell is sol d this way in a feed store as poulty grit for baby chicks. makes sure no medications in it. just plained crushed oyster shell.
you may have to get bigger , sharp edged rocks for some. and make a slurry of diatamaceous earth (with water) and pour that right about the clems or important plants. i am just doing that this year in an area behind a retaining wall. i have no evidence of slugs there, but it is an area where they could be and i do not want to take a chance.

for best control of anything you have to treat before it appears in likely areas (slugs, mildew).

pretty garden you have there. very cool, inviting and relaxing

Thanks CG, for your helpful tips. I'll do some research onto crushed oystershells. Sounds so attractive a mean to deter those pesty snails. Also provide calcium for the garden. Usually, they (snails and slugs) are a real bother for my pansies mostly due to their low growing habit. Unless I don't have those low growing ground covers, then they will work up my prized taller plants. lol.

Vossner, sorry, I just now read your previous question. I've 3 trellises/tuteurs to my main Clematis display. This is one of the shorter Tuteur that Earnest climbs on. Others such as the Dr. Ruppel and HF Young and Cometese de Bouchard and others. Those are interplanted with roses/shrubs as a mean for them to twin their way upward. I hope that answer your question?

Lily which clematis is picture above? She is very pretty!!

yes the oyster shell adds calcium as it becomes part of the soil. it is a multi tasking addition to the garden.
is that ernest markham?

That's Earnest! ^_^

yes, it certainly does. they are so lovely!

Earnest is surrounded by several other clematis; these two coming up next to EM, I'm not certain which cultivars they're.

Vossner, the last pic. shows detail on the tuteur that I used. I recalled the first year I tried out clematis in the garden. I used a bamboo trellis -- that was a mistake then, for bamboo deteroriate over a year or so sitting out under the elements.

Close up of the two: I think I've looked at 'Fireworks' enough to recognize it -- the top bloom. How about the second one? Any help please?

yeah, bamboo is very temporary at best. sorry, don't know clem on bottom left of pic

Lily..it looks like Clematis "Proteus" to me...Jeanne

Jeanne, isn't proteus a double? This one is as single as can be....lol. And these are not a new group of clems. They were planted years ago....no new one.

editted to correct my babblings....sorry.



This message was edited Apr 29, 2009 11:51 AM

Proteus is not always a double. Typically it is a double early in the season and the second blooming will be single.

Hmmm, I'll keep watching it and see if there any double. Thanks.

HF Young today:

I had some nice doubles on my HF Young last year too. Right now, he is full of fat buds and I am looking forward to seeing his first flush.

HF Young produces double blooms? Wooohooo! I'm ectastic! Jeanne, next time you speak, I meant type. I need to keep still and listen. At a closer look, the flower is indeed double. Folks, this isn't the first time Jeanne say something and I didn't listen well. Both time she's correct! Thanks Jeanne.

Carolyn your bloomings are coming right up. I bet you will glad to bid winter goodbye for the year.

This message was edited Apr 29, 2009 5:48 PM