Join Us! Seed Swap Seed Starting & Conversation #8

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

Starting a new thread.... as i bet Suzy will have troubles getting the last one to load ... it is starting to crawl

Happy Easter ..... and may your gardens be blooming soon ... well, once this snow melts.... and water recedes from recent floodings.

We came from here http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/824216/

and out of Suzy's MIA list .... have we seen KD2000 yet ??

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Mount Laurel, NJ(Zone 7a)

Happy Easter! I have evening stock seedlings poking up today :)

beautiful day here, sunny and blue sky...I have Easter bread dough rising on top of the oven now...I make it every year a traditional Italian bread ring with hard cooked eggs in it. I started making it with anise seeds in it too now. I found anise or fennel seeds from the garden can be used interchangeably.

this is a photo of last years bread

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Greenville, IN(Zone 6a)

YUMMMM Looks good wind 8^)

HAPPY EASTER! We have snow fluries this morning at least it's not rain LOL

Seale, AL(Zone 8b)

HAPPY EASTER EVERYBODY!

Wind. I am truly impressed. That a beautiful loaf of bread you baked. I don't know of too many peopel who stil bake homemade bread. That all we had growing up as kids and sure do miss it.



(bestest fairy)Tempe, MI(Zone 5b)

Wind-that is too cute-you HAVE to dmail me thee recipe for next year!! I think I got pretty creative w/ my centerpeice this year-I got a little girls easter hat at the $$ store along with wome spring looking flowers and eater grass-I dyed eggs and am going to put them in the upside down hat w/ the grass & flowers...will have to take a pic after I get it sone if I can ever pull myslef away from the puter!!LOL

Scottsburg, IN(Zone 6a)

Wow wind! I called Nora to come and take a look at your beautiful bread - the Italian girl from Brooklyn is sighing very heavily right now, wishing she could taste it :)

Thanks for starting a new thread Terese, I was supposed to keep my eye on that and forgot :(

We are still missing KD and a few others, aren't we??

I've got three happy trays of stuff out in the sunshine today - it's supposed to be nice for a few more hours before it turns cold and rainy again. If it was going to stay warmer than the teens tonight I'd consider leaving them out, but that's still too durn cold for me. One of those trays is full of different violas, many of which cam from Weez.

My little snapdragons are happily putting on little leaves, I'm so tickled! And when I went to check on the WS pots I've got some Italian Alkanet sprouting, and the Green Apples Aquilegia and Fireweed from Weez. There are some other things sprouting in those WS pots, but they all look suspiciously similar so I'm waiting to see if there's some weed that got in there before I get too excited about the other pots.

(edited to add that I had to pinch back the Tansy and Lady in Red salvia today, they were budding...)

Hope you all have a very Happy Easter!!!

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North West, OH(Zone 5b)

I had to sit down and count to 10. Actually I may have to count to 100 to get over this one. I had not hit the "save" button on my spreadsheet for a couple of days (you'd think one would learn, wouldn't ya?) I keep it open all the time and record as I sow. Pictures snapped of every seed, notes and descriptions that even the most anal of all gardners would admire, the works.

I'm sure you can see where this is going. Yup. My PC just crashed. I could just scream! Two days of documenting highly intensive sowing. Gone. Grrrrrr! I am not even going to attempt to re-create it. Grrrr again.

This unscheduled rant is now over. Please continue on with your holiday weekend. Happy Easter all.

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

OH Lala ... that sucks!!

you do have hand written notes, right?

I had that happen once .... my Excel 97 used to crash on me all the time, so i got in the habit of saving often.

Cincinnati (Anderson, OH(Zone 6a)



Georgeous Easter Bread, wind! I had to show my daughter your photo so she can try to make one next year!

And happy Easter to everyone! It's a beautiful day out and my pansies and daffodils are looking very cheery!

Can't say I have any WS seedlings yet, though.

So sorry to hear about the computer mess up. So maddening! )-:

Did I mention that my callas came from the co-op and I've been busy potting up. I think I need to start making my own potting soil...this is getting expensive!

Mount Laurel, NJ(Zone 7a)

Dryad, glad you mentioned the alkanet, I have to get that planted!

since since my last post this am ~ browallia and PamSue's coleus scarlet magma are sprouting :)

I wish you could see the red rubin basil seedlings....they are my favorite so far! It must be the purple/wine color...gets me every time!

(jax) Dundalk, MD(Zone 7a)

Hello! Happy Easter, everyone! Contrary to popular belief, I am still around...I am not one of the MIA......I am still on earth, up to my ankles in seedlings!.......lurking, learning and follow-up. Reading, taking notes, and soaking this, nicking that, planting, moving this tray, making room for that one....etc........etc..............etc!

I have cried when A. Elephant Head did not come up, and I screamed when I saw the first of the W/S Yucca! I laughed when I saw the Chinese Wisteria come up...then got worried when it soon outgrew the plastic cup it was in! Then when I saw all the Southern Magnolia growing...I cried again. What am I to do with all of them??? I apologize for not having time to type. But, beleive me, I am a very attentive student. So, keep talking, I would not have learned so much, if not for all of you! I need you all to help me thru this.............Thank you!

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Indianapolis, IN(Zone 5b)

Oh, Lala, You're welcome from the other thread, and oh, I know exactly how you feel on having everyting so highly documented, then pouf! How heartbreaking. At least you didn't knock over the seed trays, too. (small consolation)

Diana/Wind, That is the most beautiful bread I have ever seen. EVER! It is so perfect for easter!

Jax, Your photo is exactly how I want my garden to look, but I wonder how they get big wagons and stuff through there....that is always my problem. If I need to have the tree guys come out, how do they get to it? Some of their equipment is big, but even a pick up truck with a cherry picker-thing on the back wouldn't fit through that darling little garden.

I'm still here and I learned how to prune some different kinds of Palm trees...very strange! But I am pretty good at it, although it takes me a long time! My friend's mother (parents) and brother have all outside maintenance done for them. Everything. They do not own a trowel, shovel, rake, or any fertilizer or preen, or fertilizer. Nuttin. It is just so odd to me, but they have never been gardeners perople.

Gotta run to easter dinner will finishe later



Cincinnati (Anderson, OH(Zone 6a)

We don't have a beautiful loaf of Easter bread, but our DD created some pretty eggs (and on another topic, some lucky cookies for the Xavier b-ball team. March madness, you know)!

I direct sowed alyssum seed in the garden today. And sowed more snaps and penstemon under lights. My cerinthe is sprouting. No WS seedlings yet. Pansies and little daffs look cute out the front windows.

It seemed like spring this morning, but this afternoon it's snowing!

We're having a fun weekend and hope you are, too! (-:

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's-Gravenhage, Netherlands(Zone 8b)

Morning all!

Have been pricking out feverishly all day yesterday. Ever tried to transplant onion seedlings? I hadn't and it was like handling spaghetti. They've been banished to the cold outside, they were becoming too long to be handled in here. Most probably I'll have to sow them again later, at the place they're supposed to grow. Don't think the experiment worked!

If the weather doesn't warm up soon, I'm in trouble. I'm really running out of space now and still bunches have to be sown....

(bestest fairy)Tempe, MI(Zone 5b)

I NEED HELP!!! For the gazania, the info I got said to grow them in about 65*-well I put them in the basement with the lemon lime hosta & hemalayin (sp?) blue poppy and now they are starting to die-do I take them back up to the warmth and ignore those directions??? I love gazania and REALLY want them!!!

's-Gravenhage, Netherlands(Zone 8b)

Fairy,

Gazania can stand some cold (I had some survive last winter) but only when they're mature. Put them back nice warm and cosy and all will be well!

(bestest fairy)Tempe, MI(Zone 5b)

Ok-THANKS Tuink, I will put them back upstairs as soon as I get home!!

Seale, AL(Zone 8b)

I was surprised to learn that Gazania can come back. I had always treaded it like an annual , but the other day I had a few pots left over from last year sittign out there on the ground and was blowing leaves around, and blew the leaves off the pot and whatcha know there was a few that had come backup. They are the frosty Kiss variaty.

Anybody else, besides me spend the night scramblign to cover plants up. Somebody took the warmth away and now we got three nights of cold and freezing frost temps. My yard looks like it been decorade din gothic as I was trowing black plastic i had over everythign I could that newly up and emerged.

I can't get anythign done for havign to constantly move stuff in and out and coverign and uncovering and then the darn sun keeps moving on me so have to keep moving pots around.







's-Gravenhage, Netherlands(Zone 8b)

That's why I keep my babies inside and now I'm overcrowded.....

Springfield, MA(Zone 6a)

I'm back at work . . . as soon as I can find the cord to upload my photos, I will send lots of pictures of all the plants I have started - wayyyyy tooo many!

Scottsburg, IN(Zone 6a)

JAX!! Glad to see you! How did you get your Southern Magnolia to germinate??

Lala - I feel your pain. And am about to run and do some backups!!

I've got my gazania in the office under lights and it's happy as a clam, on the bottom shelf. My hosta sprouted but weren't doing well in the basement, so I brought them up to the office and they're much happier, third shelf from the bottom so they're getting some ambient heat from the lights below them. Part of the office rack also gets morning sun, so I have to rotate the end plants toward the middle every few days - LOL! (I think there's about a 10-12* ambient air temp difference between the basement and my office.)

The evening temps here are supposed to drop to the 20's for the next couple of nights, but not for much longer. I am SO ready to move my hardier/bigger things out to the little covered greenhouse to get them going and get more room.

Tuink - I kept debating with myself whether or not to start my onion seeds early, but decided to direct sow them and hope they taste bad enough that nothing bothers them. But then, I'm growing cipollini onions, so they don't have to get big.

After I move my pansies, violas, hollyhocks, petunias, cannas and salvia outside I'm off to scatter mimulus (and other) seeds - thanks Suzy! I think I need to get my marigolds going, and a few more tomatoes and peppers.

Winchester, KY(Zone 6a)

Robin, cannas like warmth, so you may want to keep those in. When they're mature they go dormant and tolerate fairly cold winters, but they need heat to grow. The rest should be happy as clams :-)

hi lea and all

thanks for the warm welcome back :))

im sure ansonfan is really busy planting seeds :))

you all are doing so great :))

i still have computer problems but at least it is booting up..the computer makes noises that my son tells me when he comes by.. because i cannot hear it so i shut it down every night.
im still puttering slowly along..the weather has been cold at night and not so warm during the day and the seeds inside have been germinating slower than usual because of our temps in the house .. not so warm ..the seedlings are still hanging in there and are growing slowly because the sun has been hiding alot lately. I dont have a light system so i guess that makes a big difference. I need to concentrate on annuals because i can always plant perennials and biennials just about anytime here.

diana..that bread looks wonderful and i bet it was really good :))

pam





Scottsburg, IN(Zone 6a)

pamsue - I hope that noise isn't your poor hard drive dying :( Back up! I gotta do that this morning so I don't lose all my work from the past two weeks in case something happens.

Thanks for reminding me about the canna Neal. I need to bring those, and probably the salvia, in tonight. What about the petunias, can they handle this kind of cold or should I bring them in too?

OK, off to do the monthly grocery run, and to swing by Wallyworld for a few more lights :)

Indianapolis, IN(Zone 5b)

Petunias inside if the nights will be 29 or below, If it will be 30 or above, they can be in your greenhouse. They can take a couple of degrees of freeze or frost, but not much more. The sun and wind will play a vital role because the ground inside that greenhouse will warm up and let off a little heat at night, same with any brick walls or blacktop driveways. But the heat the sun giveth, the wind can taketh away, so keep that in mind.

I agree with Gem_Sage, The Cannas need to be inside day and night unless it's 60 degrees and sunny, then they can go outside and play for a while.

If you have any dianthus, they would be happy enough outside -- to make room. If you have the room, keep them inside.

Suzy

Greenville, IN(Zone 6a)

Pamsue and La, just gotta love computers don't you? LOL If we go broke it wont be because of the plants and seeds it'll be the darn computers! They are always down it seems and it's not cheap to get them worked on but we gotta have them I would love to have the money I've spent on mine in the last three years I could hire someone to design my gardens LOL

I have silver shadows geranium starting to sprout! I think this is a pink one? Can't remember anymore lol

Off to get swallowed up in town, need to go to the grocery, and visit a sick friend everytime I get in town that's four hours taken away from my babies :)

Winchester, KY(Zone 6a)

I'm only doing species petunias, and they're a little tougher than the hybrids, so I'll keep those in the GH. Like Suzy said, I'd bring any others in if its below 30, especially if they're expensive Wave petunias.

I'm just taking a break from transplanting. I transplant till I think my head will explode, then take a break. Usually when I return I can come up with some clever way to re-manipulate the space, but my options are running out, lol.

Seale, AL(Zone 8b)

too cold and windy to do anythign outside so i stayign inside and sowing. Does anybody know if xeranthemum immortal need to have a light cover of soil over it. been googlign and cant find anything. New seeds for me this year.

All package says is can direct sow or start in peat pots. But not if the direct sow means toss on the top of ground or bury a bit. I starting them indoors, but dont know if I should put a touch of vermicultite over them or not.

Southeastern, NH(Zone 5b)

Hi everyone, I've don't know about xeranthemum immortal, hopefully someone else will help you with that one.
I potted up 7 lily sprouts! They were from my mix that I shared in the swap. I soaked the seeds first changing the water daily for a few days then mixed them with damp mix in a ziplock bag and have had them waiting their three months to put them in the fridge. So I was pleasantly surprised to see the sprouts. Now I am new to lilies from seed and some of them had a tiny little bulb form while others had just the root. They all had the seed still attached and I just buried the whole thing with the bulb and root down. I hope I did it right. If anyone thinks I did something wrong there please tell me so I can fix. I wasn't sure if I should have waited on the sprouts with no bulb and how deep to put the part with the seed still attached. Hopefully they will do well. :) I am still having sprouts from my hollyhocks I had a new batch pop one up today, they were pinks & magnetas. Thanks again!!

Indianapolis, IN(Zone 5b)

Cool, Meredith! You did the right thing, and the bulb just appears all in one day, or so it seems to me. Make sure they are buried deeply enough is my only advice.

Starlight, it doesn't matter if you bury the Immortelle seeds because they float up. The only thing not heavier than they are is probably perlite, & maybe vermilculite, so just a dusting is fine. I planted them last year (WSd them). The whole bach of jugs I did were watered after sowing, but before set out and every darn seed I had covered floated up. That made me look at my jugs outside, most of which were not really watered after dowing because it was the dead of winter and I thought the amount of water in the mix was enough until the snow or rain came (which it did) and lo! and behold, the seeds in all of them were completely visible, too.

Suzy
Suzy

Southeastern, NH(Zone 5b)

I put them in bathroom size plastic dixie cups and the seed part is probably only 1/4" deep. So this probably is not enough huh? I was just trying to find info on the web and one thing I read said to put them in the fridge for the leaf to appear. Do you think it is too soon? The bulb is a tiny little thing. Maybe it should get more size first? I'm going to try searching some more but hopefully someone can help me with these.:)

Seale, AL(Zone 8b)

Congrats Meridith. : ) I haven't done asiatic lily bulbs. I did a bunch of Eronimus lasy fall and liek you had this teeny thing to transplant. One thing I did learn was not to keep them overwatered .

If nobody has done any on here, ya might pop over to the bulb forum and ask, they got some pro bulb sprouters over there.

Suzy! Thanks for the help. LOl what a cute story. Sittign here chuckling. Not a good thing to have happen but still a cute story.

Indianapolis, IN(Zone 5b)

Meredith, There are different kinds of lilies, and without going into it, they all get the bulb before the green sprout, whether it is 9 months before or a couple of days before.

You said you had the sprouts, which means you have the bulb on all of them, whether you can see it or not. I know this makes no sense, but they can be really, really little, just a sort of knot. The reason you would put them in the refrigerator is if you had the bulb with NO SPROUT. It makes the lily think it is wiunter, then when you pull it out, it makes thelily think it is spring and time to sprout. You can shave 4 months off the full germination time. The kinds of lilies you would likely have seed of that are the hypogeal germinators are Martagons and Orientals.

Assuming you do have above ground sprouts, there are no cotyledons on lilies, so you just plant them a little deeper than they are growing.

Now, if instead of meaning sprouts, you just meant the radical or root and bulb, like on Orientals, then you need to get those puppies you planted outside right now while it is cool. Put them in the shade and let them freeze and thaw and frost and get cold and then they will germinate above ground at the perfect time. Yes, you can also put them in the refrigarator, but you could also plant them in the ground.

Here's a good link ,I think for lilies...Joe Halinar is not a nice person, but this particular webpage he wrote is good.

http://www.cascadebulbandseed.com/lilygermination.html

Suzy


Southeastern, NH(Zone 5b)

Thanks Suzy! The seeds all came from orientals and possibly a LA hybrid. I had them in pots labeled but didn't collect the seeds until after I had planted them and tossed the labels out. Silly me! I don't know if an LA hybrid can produce seed, so I am assuming orientals. Some of the sprouted seeds have a very definite bulb shape on them while a few others look like just a little root just starting to form. So I thought those might need a little longer before giving them cold.

(jax) Dundalk, MD(Zone 7a)

Hi! Dryad, about the Southern Magnolia...I soaked the seeds in an empty pill bottle(with hydrogen peroxide) for 48 hours. Planted about 25 seeds in a large dishpan (with drain holes) sitting on a tray on a sunny window. Watered from below with the Recipe. After 4 weeks I had 25 seedlings. So, what on earth was I thinking....where am I putting 25 trees??? lol

Southeastern, NH(Zone 5b)

tiger - you'll be putting 24 trees on your trade list LOL just kidding! :)

(jax) Dundalk, MD(Zone 7a)

Funny! Very funny! lol

Leesburg, FL(Zone 9b)

Joyce -- what is "the recipe" ?

Indianapolis, IN(Zone 5b)

Meredith, Yes, LAs are supposed to be infertile triploids, but ya never know!

You were right all along: The ones that have bulbs are ready to be planted, go outside or whatever to do their above-ground germination. In other words, throw a leaf or two. The ones that are just a root need more time.

LOL! Congrats on the Southern Magnolia!!!!!!!!! I would love one of those, but Indianapolis is not a place they will grow.

Suzy

Southeastern, NH(Zone 5b)

Suzy thank you for helping me figure out the lilies. I ended up pulling them all out of the cups I had them in and putting them in a new ziplock baggy for the fridge. ( I kept the bulb ones seperate from the root ones) I want to see if I can get them to send out leaves in the fridge, or after the fridge? and then pot them up.

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