What I am doing in my garden now!

I would do what AEC says. They are who I send the tough ones to. Good people.

Oh . . . good to know. I asked him for a recommendation and they were his first choice, too. It'll be good to find out more. I'm very curious now as to where he got it.

Oh I know the eye clinic well. Pee wee had glaucoma and we had 1 eye taken out and laser on the other. Poor blind little man. I do watch their eyes.

I'm so sorry, Heidi. And for you, too, Pee Wee, baby.

That's why we have the certification done. If I breed Sahara or Magic, I want to know that they won't pass on any tendencies for eye problems to their offspring or grand-offspring. It's so traumatic for everybody when people breed and don't do their homework. And glaucoma is so painful. Yeowch.

So Pee Wee can see out of the one eye?

Hi Soderdig, Not on the lake. They live on the river now. Her dad used to own the volkswagen dealership and he was a preacher. Slater was their name.

A lot of those sub-epithelial fibromas can come from simple vaccines. Proteins are deposited that the body attacks and leaves inflammatory debris.
I know a lot of Slaters and they own mostly hardware stores. They are in our yacht club. The VW dealership is Depratu and is up in Whitefish.

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Really . . . whee wheee . . hmmmm. THAT bears some looking into. Perhaps he carries a vulnerability to that. Wow. Not you've got me thinking. I'll do some reading on that. Thanks.

I am not aware that it is serious or inheritable. But you are doing the right thing looking into it. I will get on VIN (veterinary information network) and look when I get up to Juneau this week.

Sof - you rock. I'm interested, but don't feel like you have to spend time on this. OTH, any info you come up with is appreciated. It's nice to know what I'm dealing with.

I find learning anything even something like, what I make my living doing something I can spend time learning the new theories on. Medicine changes weekly on answers such as this.

I can't even imagine the reading you guys have to do to keep up with the latest, and especially the effort to separate the wheat from the chaff (speculation and misc Internet information from real research conclusions) for your patients. It exhausts me just thinking about it.

Sofer ~ If you're looking for a challenge, I have a mantrailing bloodhound who is apparently allergic to humans!

Tell your "mantrailing bloodhound" to LIVE WITH IT. Nobody has an easy ride in this world except dogs and cats.

Outta - I'm so looking forward to meeting your dogs. I don't think I've ever actually met a bloodhound.

Katie...we'll be doing some training in May, the 4th I think) somewhere near Redmond. Once I find out exactly where, I'll let you know ~ maybe you could shoot over for a bit. There's usually about 10 dogs there and we're always looking for new people to get lost for us! They are truly a wonderful breed...just about the funniest I've ever known.

Pee wee was misdiagnosed with the first eye they thought he got some grass in it or something then 2 months went by and he nipped at me I knew something was wrong. I went to the vet again a different one and they knew the breed. Pom, terrier. maybe peekanese.They tested for glaucoma. They took the first eye out and did some tests on the other and they said someday it will go so watch. He had that eye for about 4 years. The optic nerve can rupture in their head and they can die in a few days fron the onset. It isn't like people and glaucoma. Anyways by the time the second eye went there was laser surgery which save the eyeball but it was blind. He was 100% blind but he lived another 8 years like that. He still didn't mind he cruzed like he could see. He had a great sniffer and short man complex, he wan't going to let site slow him down.

The idea of looking for people to get lost for you - that has me smiling. Would you like to borrow my DH - he is very lost! Problem is he is also in his own little world, and doesn't realize when he gets found. Could be a difficult. Sometimes I walk off at the grocery store (it can be a tad slow with boy in tow - he gets into reading labels, and then wants to explain them to me) I go zizzing around expecting him to find me - not a bit of it - he just parks him self in one of the cross aisles knowing I will have to traverse them at some point and find him. Seems to work, I haven't left without him yet.

He's fine with dogs - but it would be interesting.

Laurie -

Maybe HE was lost on that last trip when you thought he was in one country and he was actually in another. LOL. We've missed you. Hope you've been having fun playing in the garden.

Heidi -

I was just having a conversation with my vet, co-breeder friend about blindness in dogs. She was saying exactly what you experienced with Peewee, that if it happens gradually, they get around as though they're not blind at all. Poor guy - I just hate to think they're ever in pain.

Outta -

That's great. I'd be interested in seeing you guys train as well. Maybe you'll be doing some work at Marymoor Park here. It's huge - has a multi-acre off-leash area and lots of play fields, etc. surrounding that.

Laurie, I would love to meet your dh! He sounds like the quintessential absent minded professor. That image of him reading the labels in the grocery store and then wanting to explain them to you, with you just 'zizzing' (is that the word you used? Brilliant) around like a live wire... I can see him gesturing to you in absentia! ROFLOL!



Okay, all you dog people - will you please be on the lookout for a little dog for my daughter? She is so lonely living by herself and is the kind that dogs follow home. She misses our dogs terribly. but she lives in an apartment and so a small dog is going to be required - the kind that she can set up a little agility run for in her living room. She likes almost all dogs but since she has to have something under 20 pounds, and we don't want to get one that will have health problems or is badly bred, we thought to turn to the dog experts on dg , which means you guys. All the little dogs we're seeing are quite costly. She's a poor recent college grad. If you see anything, please let me know. She's not concerned about the age of the dog, except that she isn't prepared for an elderly dog at this point. She's like it to be young enough to live a long time yet.

Your best bet is to contact the veterinarians around her and tell them her needs. We often get pets that need a good home and being a patient the Doctors know the personality and health concerns. Humane society is good but pure-bred rescues know their dogs better. Contact HS and they will give you names. Many if not all dogs need to get out of the apartment so she must commit to a life of walking in the park or neighborhood. Maybe she should volunteer in HS and meet the perfect dog while helping the not so perfect. Steve

I'll forward your recommendations to her, Steve. The apartment she lives in has a large field that backs onto it, plus a large park across the street. It will be good for her to get out and walk the dog. I'm trying to keep her from being in a hurry. she's been wanting one for some time and I've successfully kept her from running out and getting one, but my influence is waning. She will be a responsible owner, though.

Pixy ~ She can also try Petfinder.com, a website which you can search for adoptable animals in your area. Our bloodhound rescue group is a member and we have placed several dogs in wonderful homes through the site. Lots of dogs available and you can be quite specific with regard to your search ~

Pixy, I can imagine you and DH would get along famously. You are use to talking to Gnomes.

And Pix, she definitely needs to consider the breed, no matter how cute the dog is. Being in an apartment, she'll want to avoid something that's known to bark. That will just add stress for both of them.

What about a Pug? Not all of them have sinus issues and they are small, with short hair. They aren't bred to be protective, which can sometimes lead to reactiveness (aggression) and they have a short coat, which is nice to keep maintenance costs down.

If you know what kind of breed suits your circumstance, there is "purebred" resuce. And not all the dogs are purebred. There is a Seattle chapter, not sure about other locations, but there's probably a network.

No no - border terrier - lovely little dog, big character. not so hyperactive as the fox terriers, definately not as agressive - (he has just taken exception to agressive and wants me to clarify - thats agression for you!). borders, really nice dogs, don't shed. I love them. nice dogs, you can give them really good names like Scout, and Reg.

Here, try this and see if you can tear yourself away from that face

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So border terriers don't have the energy level of the other? That's good to know. Sweet face, perfect size, very interactive. That sounds great! And terriers really are all-weather, all-activity dogs.

Into the garden! I've been out in mine for three glorious days and it is all cleaned -up. Next will be digging and seperating plants out for the plant sale and then a load of black mulch. And I sure have seen a lot of plants I would love to have lately. I went down to St. Andrews in my Master Gardener hat and worked two hours planting the plants Jeff and I bought in December before the weather set in. I did have a helper in my garden and she took everything to the plant waste recycle for me. That's a big help. Now I need a shower and a sit-down. My old bones are sore.

My Kip is a wonderful dog and very easy to have around. Quite the cuddler and stays home alone well. He is a easy keeper. Actually gets to play all the time with my Jack russell. I love my border terrier.

He's a cutie
Ester is almost back to being herself.
Playing tug a war with my brother.

And Tyler wanting part of the action ( I call him bunny Butt )

We call our dog's turkey butt.

Thats funny

So cute! Of course, she loves them all. I did not mean to imply that the breed is completely unimportant - naturally she would not want say, a sheltie. Bark bark bark! Run run run, jump jump jump!! But only that since we've never had any small dogs at all, she isn't attached to a specific breed and she would not necessarily have to have a purebred dog. Border terriers are awesome dogs. She would love one. She also has always loved pugs. She would be fine with a dog that needs grooming since I believe what we are looking at here is a young woman whose hormones are kicking in and she's either got to get herself a man or a dog. Unless the right man comes along, I prefer the dog. At least there are more 'right' dogs than there are right men in this situation. She wants something to love and take care of. Dogs suit. She loved my mom's yorkshire terrier but they are soooo expensive!
Any other small dog breeds to avoid?

I saw petfinder.com today at Petco. They have a computer station all set up so you can look for pets. I had no idea adopting dogs was so expensive, though. It does make it hard for people who would be good dog owners but don't have much $$ to find a dog the upright way. Good thing her birthday is coming up.

My folks had a lasa poo. Nesby was great. Pixy you can go to red. rescue every dog or any pet finder breed and usally have some
I like pomerainians but people say they are yappers. I know some older people who love them. Teddy was the cutest. I think terrirers are though because they are hunters and if they're not on a leash their gone. I love griffon terriers. They are so cute.

Laurie and Sofer love your dogs. sofer my friend who does my stone work for me has one that lookes very similar to yours named Max. He is the coolest dog.

We used to have a pom named Skipper. He liked to ride on the rump of my horse.

I suggest you Pixy choose the dog because all college kids dogs come home to mom and dad. So select one that you would want. Seriously. They all come home to mom. Their lifestyles are too variable to focus and commit to a dog. Again encourage her to help at some place she can get close to pets. Or plan on your family enlarging 1 dog in less than a year. It has nothing to do with responsibility but rather dramatic life style changes. IE that boy will show up soon. So have her get a boyfriend with a dog.

Sofer - Very sage advice, I think.

So true. That's why she's put off getting a dog until now. She's not in college anymore, graduated in December. She's working and actually supporting herself. Regardless of that, we're all quite aware of the possibility of the dog coming 'home' to roost, so to speak. That's why I believe my 2 cents is important in the dog choice. Unfortunately, Aussies are completely out of the question. She lives in an apartment. She's grown up keeping dogs for life, so she does take the decision seriously. Also, she does not like to make snap decisions. she's the kind who will perseverate forever gathering information before finally making a choice a couple of years down the road. So far I've managed to talk her out of buying any number of small animals because I see the handwriting on the wall when it comes to flying squirrels, guinea pigs, rabbits, etc. A dog, however, is going to be put off only so long. She is dog girl. She loves them. It's only a matter of time. I just got off the phone with her and the crisis has passed for the moment. She agrees to look into which particular dog would be best for her considering her lifestyle. Whew! That buys time and will make the decision a better one when it comes.
But since I know it's likely that the dog will spend at least a bit of time here at our house, I want to extend my influence as much as possible!

Sofer, got it in one! who woulda guessed!! And see - border's get really good names - Kip. I like it.

I named him Kip after the movie "The English Patient" Kip who with his new lover at the bombed out church, continues the love story that the Patient relates to this nurse. I couldn't let go of that love I lost. Sophie was a human friend in a jack russell body.