Genus & family checklist additions here

Churchill, Victoria, Australia(Zone 10a)

thanks Terry, it is fine now, I have added the Spikey Wijky Moss to PlantFiles

Ken

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

Thanks! I'm glad it worked this time ;o)

Churchill, Victoria, Australia(Zone 10a)

I have finished adding all my moss pictures, now just the liverworts to complete 7 years of adding all my old plant photos to PlantFiles.

Could you please add the following Liverwort Genera and where necessary families to the approved list::

Chiloscyphus in the Geocalycaceae
Barbilophozia in the Jungermanniaceae
Lepidozia in the Lepidoziaceae
Trichocolea in the Trichocoleaceae
Metzgeria in the Metzgeriaceae
Frullania in the Frullania clavata
Porella in the Porellaceae

Thank you

Ken

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

Hi ken,

All have been added. The Frullania genus seems to have some taxonomy questions - is it in the Jubulaceae family, or its own? (We don't have Frullaniaceae as a valid family name in the checklist.)

Churchill, Victoria, Australia(Zone 10a)

Sorry Terry, that was a typo. I entered the full name of the species instead of the family. I agree that Frullania is in the Jubulaceae.

Ken

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

No problem; I just wanted to make sure we didn't need to add another family there. If you need any more assistance, please let me know!

Austin, TX

Why is Fabaceae not included as a family? I can understand the need to use subfamilies when families are large, but shouldn't there at least be an informational page that gets displayed if Fabaceae is entered?

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

Quote from victorengel :
Why is Fabaceae not included as a family? I can understand the need to use subfamilies when families are large, but shouldn't there at least be an informational page that gets displayed if Fabaceae is entered?


Here's where we announced and explained the rationale: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/413338/

As far as displaying it for informational purposes, it's important to keep in mind that Plantfiles is a database, and as such, each field for a plant's name must meet certain criteria. If we added a listing for Fabaceae for informational purposes) that would place it on our family checklist, and allow it to be used to create new entries - some of which could easily be duplicative.

Austin, TX

Thanks for the reply and link to the thread. Since I am a computer programmer, I naturally automatically think of alternatives. One obvious alternative is to add an edit check to the family field, and if Fabaceae is entered, provide a popup from which to choose the appropriate subfamily.

Another obvious suggestion would be to not prompt for a family when a subfamily is sometimes called for. This can be fixed with a simple label change. It never dawned on me to enter Papilionidae because I was being asked to enter a family name. I couldn't believe it when the system would accept neither Fabaceae nor Leguminosae, the only two family names I knew of. Had the label suggested I could have entered a subfamily name, that would have been helpful.

Finally, in most cases, the genus is already in the system. The user should not be required to enter a family name if it's already known. If it is left blank, the system should look it up from its store of knowledge. The user can then confirm it or select from alternatives in the unlikely event there are multiple possibilities.

San Tan Valley, AZ(Zone 9a)

Could you please add the genus Balsamocitrus. It is in the Rutaceae family. Thanks

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

I added Balsamocitrus and I also added Afraegle since they seem to be synonyms: http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?1643

Churchill, Victoria, Australia(Zone 10a)

Could you please add the moss genus:

Bryoerythrophyllum in the family: Pottiaceae
to the approved list,

Ken

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

All done!

Lucketts, VA(Zone 7a)

Would you please add the genus Saposhnikovia under the family Apiaceae?

http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?402607

Belfield, ND(Zone 4a)

Saposhnikovia has been added.

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

Joan beat me to it ;o)

Lucketts, VA(Zone 7a)

Just now tried it, it wont come up. No hurry, I'm going to bed.

Belfield, ND(Zone 4a)

Hmmm...let me check

Belfield, ND(Zone 4a)

The genus is added to the accepted list correctly, and I was able to add a test entry (that I also deleted). Please try again.

Lucketts, VA(Zone 7a)

Guess I'm doing something wrong. I enter Saposhnikovia in genus in the search page, hit enter and get "Do you mean.." with nothing remotely similar offered. How do I add the firsr species under a newly added genus?

Belfield, ND(Zone 4a)

We just added the genus to the accepted list, so that means no Saposhnikovia entries exist in PlantFiles yet. Once there are some entries created, then the search will bring them up.

To add a plant, click on the 'Add A Plant' link underneath the tabs in the PlantFiles environment. Fill in the common name, family, genus and species field (cultivar also if there is one) and click on submit. Then you can go back to the entry and finish filling in the details, add a photo and comment if you wish.

Try that and let us know if you have any further problems.

Lucketts, VA(Zone 7a)

Sorry Joan, I was thinking I had to be within the genus to add. Don't know why, as I've done this before. Guess I'm getting old. ;-(

Belfield, ND(Zone 4a)

No problem. Let us know if you run into any snags.

Churchill, Victoria, Australia(Zone 10a)

I have just encountered a Liverwort in a new Genus and family.

Could you please authorise the genus Asterella in the Family Aytoniaceae,

thanks,

Ken

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

I added the Asterella to the genus checklist and confirmed that Aytoniaceae was already among the validated family names.

East Longmeadow, MA

Sorry if this is not right spot for this posting. Just joined DG. Is there a database that allows me to choose characteristics such as sun needed, height, color, etc. and then have perenials spit out?

Steve

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

Quote from slg124 :
Sorry if this is not right spot for this posting. Just joined DG. Is there a database that allows me to choose characteristics such as sun needed, height, color, etc. and then have perenials spit out?

Steve


The Advanced Search: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/advanced.php sounds like what you're looking for - you can run through a simulation to see how it works, but the results are only visible to subscribing members.

San Tan Valley, AZ(Zone 9a)

Could you please add the genus Phrynium and Plagiostachys to the list of accepted names. Thank you.


This message was edited Aug 8, 2010 4:18 PM

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

Phrynium and Plagiostachys have been added to the checklist!

San Tan Valley, AZ(Zone 9a)

Could you also add the families Flagellariaceae and Hanguanaceae and genera Flagellaria and Hanguana? Thanks again.

This message was edited Aug 10, 2010 4:10 PM

San Tan Valley, AZ(Zone 9a)

Would you add the family Joinvilleaceae and genus Joinvillea as well.

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

I added Flagellaria, Hanguana and Joinvillea.to the genus checklist.

I also added Flagellariaceae to the family checklist (the other two were already present.)

San Tan Valley, AZ(Zone 9a)

Terry, when I tried to add my plant from the genus Joinvillea it still said it is not on the checklist. Could you check that out for me. Thanks.

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

Sorry about that - please try again and see if it works!

San Tan Valley, AZ(Zone 9a)

Thanks, it worked fine now.

San Tan Valley, AZ(Zone 9a)

Would you add Rhodocoma, Asplundia, and Scirpodendron to the genus checklist please.



This message was edited Aug 12, 2010 10:22 PM

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

Quote from QCHammy :
Would you add Rhodocoma, Asplundia, and Scirpodendron to the genus checklist please.



This message was edited Aug 12, 2010 10:22 PM


They've all been added.

San Tan Valley, AZ(Zone 9a)

Could you add Rhuacophila to the genus checklist please.

Murfreesboro, TN(Zone 7a)

Quote from QCHammy :
Could you add Rhuacophila to the genus checklist please.


It's been added.

San Tan Valley, AZ(Zone 9a)

Thanks for all the additions.

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