Found this while poking around

Not sure I remember seeing this mentioned anywhere before. AND not trying to take folks away from here.... but it looks like an interesting source of info for the PNWer.

http://www.rainyside.com/index.html

Anyone spent much time there?

Sanna

I have to confess that while this site comes up relatively frequently when I do plant searches, I don't know much about these guys. Will have to look into it more.

How's the weather in Eureka lately, sannajane? Are you getting any of this Canadian cold that's blowing down from the north?

I've surfed around in there a few times. Funny you mention it today-I was just there looking at something in their native section today, and I haven't been there in a while otherwise.

Yeah, we've had the weather. Colder than I can remember in a long time (longer spurts of it) but nothing too damaging. Rain is on its way for the next 7-8 days! But it looks like it will be a bit warmer. I'm sure itching to get outside. I've done a little bit of winter sowing for the first time this year, just so I'll have something to do! That and put on the sloggers and work in the rain and cold, and say heck with it! Daffodils are starting to poke up, as well as some bleeding hearts and other things ~ can't complain!

Rainyside has pretty good info - but I always want more, so I'm typically all over the place...

Sannajane, good to know there's spring starting up somewhere. We're due for snow that turns to rain and then cold temps a day or two after that again. It's crazy up here.

I find that when the weather is so variable I have thinks bud out and then get frozen. Argh!!!

What seeds did you sow?

I'm still not sure about the winter sowing thing, but I thought I'd give it a try. I started some things I harvested last fall: Lunaria, a big oriental poppy that I don't know its name, Nigella, Lavatera, Agastache, and I'm even doing my own "science project" on trillium seeds. Poochella and I have had quite a discussion on the propagation of trillium, so I'm giving that a try. I also am trying some purchased seeds of Foxglove, cucumbers and peas. Then in the house I have more Lunaria and some Brugmansia seeds I harvested! I've started brug seeds before and been successful (well, I haven't seen blooms yet) but these "feel" special since they're off my own plant. I **think** it will be a cross between Charles Grimaldi and Frosty Pink. Growing brugs is a whole other mystery....

And as of yesterday I have some Lunaria seedlings (in the house)!

Wow-trillium.
Congrats on the new Lunaria babies!

What a treat to find this thread. I go there all the time, but I happen to run the place so it's expected. Thanks for the kind words!

Debbie TT

Hi Debbie! How neat to find you over here, too. Tell us more about it! How did you get started? How often do you add new plants to your database?

Hi Debbie, good job, It looks great. Hope to see you again this year. Heidi and Dragonfly

Hi Susybell, This year is our 10 year anniversary. My ex-partner (who now has West Side Gardenersfor growing edibles) and I wrote for another web site and decided to branch out on our own and our site was born. I try to put new additions in weekly, sometimes more and and a lot of times less. I always have a lot cued up as I research them, some sit there for a long time until I can find more information. One plant sat in cue for five years as it was not a well known plant and a lot of my input was from my own experience growing it. Susy, I will be down your way for the Yard, Patio and Garden Show next month. I went last year for the first time and loved it!

Hi Heidi, You bet I'll be over there this year, since you are only 15 minutes away. Also, I heard Herons-wood is going to have another open house this year, so I will be bringing another group with me again, they enjoyed going to your place last year.

I come here and see what PNW people have to say about their experience with plants when I am researching for articles. It's always nice to get other gardener's maritime perspective, besides my own! So many opinions, so little time. :-)

Your group was great I have at more garden art this year. some cool birdhouses and hostajim has made more wonderful spheres. Your group was great. I had a great time that day. It was pretty wild. I think it took me a month to recover. Thanks Heidi and dragonfly

hi Debbie I didn't know that they were thinking of another open. eric is gone so I haven't been down there lately. D-mail me with the info. thanks Heidi

Hi Debbie. What a treat to have you poke your head in.

Sannajane - You have LOTS going on there. I'm so interested in your experience with the trillium. I have one that blooms in the farthest corner of my yard - but in 5 years there have not been any more. Last year when I was chasing my dogs and stumbling through the forested property next to me, I happened on a clearing full of them. And, interestingly, it's only about 15 feet from my yard. That spot has just been hidden so well with the undergrowth!!

Sanna
Trillium experiments always get my interest :-)
are you trying Trillium seed in different soil mixes ? or did you cross T.ovatum ( the most common Trillium on the north coast ) with another T. specie ? i understand it crosses with T. rivale very readily and visa versa.

Dick

I've tried a couple of things, so far, with another part of the experiment to come: I put some of the seeds in the fridge for about 6 weeks. Those I planted in a flat and put outside in kind of a winter-sowing experiment. This way, I **think** it might be getting two cold sessions. Then I direct planted some of the harvested seeds into another flat and put it outside, no cover, no dome.... and then I saved some to plant when it gets warmer. I'll put those in a container too, so I'll have a little bit more control over them. Poochella and I, as I think I mentioned above, have been talking about this for a couple of summers now. I just read the other day on some germination site or another that it might take 5 years before a bloom! So, I'm not really expecting too much, but am trying to document all I do, and hope to see something! I love the native trillium ~ I often transplant them from one part of my yard that isn't seen to anyone but the deer to another part of my yard that I can see. But the deer do like them, so I protect them like crazy with tomato cages, Liquid Fence.... pretty silly, huh?

Hi Debbie,

Thanks for a little more info. I've just red a couple of your articles. I really enjoyed the one about N. Kitsap nurseries. I had no idea there were that many over there. Nice comments about Dragonfly, too. :)

Glad you enjoyed the local garden show. I don't know what it is, exactly, but big events seem to be a little more relaxed down here than up in Seattle.

Sanna, if I had deer, I'd protect my trillium, too-especially as I just finally got some. They're just one of those special kinds of plants. :)

The deer eat the trillium, really? 'Cause I have a forest next to me that has lots of deer and lots of trillium . . . I wonder if I saw the trillium just before the deer got them. Interesting. I'll have to be more specific this year in looking for them (might steal a couple). Oops, I didn't say that.

Thanks katie and suzy.

I can't take credit for that article, it was written by Wendy Tweten another writer that lives in the same area. She made me want to get out and shop again. :)

Sanna
i have tomato cages all over the place :-) i need more
they seem to work very well
you didn't say what specie you are playing with ?
it is my experience that Trillium sulk for a year after being moved
unless
you do not disturb the roots by taking a large soil mass with the plant

Dick

Yes, I take a pretty good hunk of soil ~ sometimes it seems as if all I'm transplanting is a stem! But I've had very good success at it. I do feel kind of funny doing it ~ like fooling mother nature or something. But since it's all on my property, I figure I might as well enjoy them. :o) They go into a woodland area fairly close to the house, under redwoods, in with sorrell and lots of redwood fronds. They're pretty happy.

From a couple years ago, nothing special, but it is a transplant.

I'd heard that they don't like to be transplanted - sulking sounds like it's what they were talking about. But my friend told me last year that her mother works with trillium all the time and that they've been easy for her to transplant in her yard. Must be the variety - or maybe they are moving lots of soil.

Sanna - nice pictgure of the trillium. I think that's what I have - is it Wake Robin?

So, Dick, can you post some pictures? I'd love to see someone who's having success with Trillium.

here is an image of a T.ovatum the tomato cage protected

here i am showing how large T.ovatum gets :-)

this is one of the tallest T.ovatum i have

just showing how T.ovatum turns dark pink

T.kurabayashii i just now starting to show

nice!

this is one of my favorite images of T.ovatum near Stout grove
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/150277/

This is a trillium that Annie (Poochella) gave me last summer (along with about 50 trees!) - my fingers are crossed that it made it through the winter. I transplanted it from the huge pot she had it in to a good sized spot so I didn't have to disrupt the roots much, etc. we'll see!

Those are all really neat! Dick, you seem to know a great deal about the different varieties. Very nice!

>>.. Just saw this thread, I started visiting rainyside after it was mentioned in the H&G as a great online site.. and I agree !

I heard that if you by accident cut off the foliage of trilliums they die.

Sannajane are you danish? my freind susanne who owns a great bakery in gig harbor is danish and her fammily and friends called her sanna. I haven't heard that name since I was a kid.

I too heard that if you pick one, it will die too.... don't know if it's an old tale or not!

My name is Finnish ~ but I'm mostly English. My mother's best friend's family was from Finland, and I was named after her. From what I understand it's a very common name in the Scandinavian countries. I pronounce it just like Donna with an 's', but I've heard it pronounced in this country like Anna with an 's'. How does your friend pronounce it?

She pronounces it like anna. Here sister was annette and they called her netta. her other sister was chalatta and mom and dad was moa and fa.

Interesting!!

picking the flower does not kill a Trillium
but it does make it sulk the next flowering season & some have been known to sulk for a cpl of years :-)

Dick

When they sulk, do they come up at all?