LouC I agree with you totally!! When it comes to kids tell don't talk to strangers. When it comes to plants NEVER give'em to strangers.
LouC you gave me two geraniums in the fall one didn't make it and one did. They were side by side with the same identical care. The one that made it is ready to get potted up to a bigger pot. The hanging basket of the curtain flower is now three hanging baskets full. One at my sister's house and two here at my house. One of which I will pass forward at the RU. "Mitch, that is what friend's do, they care for and then share with other friends." LOL
Mitch, I have no idea where you or Melva live. I will have to have some directions to get to her house and will need to know where the heck yours is and then I will know if it is inbetween. You ought to go to her house. She has a thread going about people coming to help her in Feb.
Charlene
Brugs - do you grow them?
OK I am in Red Oak - South side of the Metroplex on I35 east not toooo far from I20, she lives in the FAR north of the metroplex on I35 east near the I35 east and west merge.
I looked at it this way - I gave everything away I did not care about - and then found homes for the plants I did care about that I could not move.
Annie Jo,
Brugs are water hogs, but are easy to kill off by overwatering. Root rot is probably the best way to kill a Brug. I would be careful of the double pot idea. Before I tried it, I would make sure that the plant is growing vigorously and that the roots have filled the pot. I've had plants wilt under the hot Texas summers. It helps to move the pot to a spot where it can get shade earlier. It could be that the plant needs to be repotted. Maybe setting up a drip irrigation system.
They are also fertilizer hogs as well. Don't feel that you need to jump into this all at once. The "Recipe" works because it is a weak foliar fertilizer and it is applied daily making it readily available when the plant needs it. It also has anti-fungal and pesticide properties, but any fertilizer will do. One that has less phosphates is preferable. Something like a hibiscus fertilizer would be ideal (This was recommended by Monika Gottschalk, a leading Brug hybridizer.). I've used Miracle Grow when I don't have anything else with great results. The trick is to feed at least once a week while in active growth.
I don't know what rose soil is because my roses go in the ground. Pro-Mix is supposed to a good one to use, but it is expensive. I use the Miracle
Grow potting soil and haven't had a problem. Many add some of the extra large perlite to increase the porosity of any potting soil they buy. I wouldn't buy a potting soil that already has perlite. I've had bad experiences with it. Over time, all the perlite floated to the surface, the fine material sank to the bottom and clogged the drain holes.
charlene, so glad that the curtain daisys are doing well for you. I loved them but they required watering twice a day. Sometimes I made it and sometimes didn't. Always thrilled that someone else has success.
LouC
Can anyone give me a link to a curtain daisy?
Thank you, Bettydee! I can take some deep breaths and calm down now. Fertilizing once a week I can certainly handle. I wonder how these brugs would like living in an earth box. If they are such water hogs and need the constant food, wouldn't that be a prime candidate for an EB?
Annie
AnnieJo, when I potted my only brug I used rose soil from Gardenville and added lots of coffee grounds. Rose soil is supposed to be more acidic. I also use it anytime I'm potting up something that likes acidic soil. You could probably get some good acidic soil from the Natural Gardener. I'm sure there are other places to buy it, but since I don't live in Austin I don't know a lot about the other nurseries. I like to go there every time I go to Austin.
As far as the recipe goes, I'm going to try it because so many others have had good results with it. I tried a fertilizer last year called Buds and Blooms, from the same people that make RoseGlow (can't remember who that is). It has a lot of the same stuff in it and It worked but it's expensive and this recipe sounds like it's a lot cheaper and not really much of a hassle. It looks like it makes about 2 quarts, but since that's more than I'll use at a time, I'll just make a half a recipe. It's a lot less hassle than alfalfa tea IMO.:)
Charlene, that would be great, I can meet you at I45 whenever you're ready, just dmail me.
My mom is a purple hatter too :)
The best ones I've grown are un named brugs from seed.. unfortuneatly they grow too well and I've had to take about 10 trees out.
Can someone link the post number of the recipe? just right click on the small post number and select copy shortcut..then come to new message and paste ...I looked quite a ways up and couldn't find it...
Rj
the one I'm following is in the first post.
Rj, here's the link. It's in the Brug Forum.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/803019/
Thanks Bettydee...how are ya?
aaah...that recipe..my goodness but there was quite a discussion invovling a seemingly grumpy individual on another forum about that recipe...One of the joys of these threads is the off button, or rather the unwatch button, which I freely employed as the conversation became uncomfortable.
I'm fine, Rj and you? Waiting for spring to arrive and broadmites to leave!
Me too...I just sprayed last weekend with seaweed to get rid of up and coming disease and pests...
Who was asking about Maya? I got a cutting from someone at the Arlington swap in October. I think it came from Kim. Same person also gave me Pink Favorite.
Charlene, if you cannot find the Tropicana rose before the date at Melva's house, I can bring you more cuttings from my dad's. Maybe you can get one to "take" this time.
My brugs wilted every day last summer because they were root bound.. needed to be moved up into larger pots but had started a new job and just did not have the energy or time. Just watered them a lot to keep them going. I have the pots for them to move up into once spring arrives and they are growing again. I am also going to put some cuttings in the ground when they are big enough. My Maya is barely alive but has some new tiny leaves poking out.. it is only about 18" tall after one growing season because it was only in a 1 gallon pot and the leaves got eaten off it twice.. I even pulled some catepillers off it when I brought it in the house just before the first freeze. My mothers brug in the ground has tried to start growing twice already but the freezes keep stopping it. We cut it back from about a 4ft small tree to about 3 feet main branches above the y's. We wraped the trunk and main y's in bubble wrap also.. must be happy since it keeps trying to grow through the winter every time it warms up.
OK, how do you start a rose cutting? I have two roses that bloom all seasons and even in the winter sometimes.. one looks like an open peace and the other is more coral colored. I have had them since 1989 and so much of the lower plants are dead wood .. they grow almost a tall as the house and are long and leggy... not climbers.. just OLD. I would love to start new ones of these two.. one smells sooo good, I know when there is a single bloom open from the other end of the yard. Darn things are already growing again and we were in the 20's last week!
Tammie
edited typo.. burgs to brugs!
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My Brugs are too potbound and I have had to continuously water also. I find in doing so it washes too many nutrients out and doesn't seem to bloom as much. I believe they will be in ground this summer permanently if they survive our winters.
LOL! It is kind of a funny name, isn't it?
I have had some luck with rooting cuttings, I cut off a 6-8" tip, stick it in the rooting hormone, then stick it in a sandy, loamy soil. I didn't bother with pots, I jsut stuck them in the ground. Just keep at it, eventually one will take. It's less painful with a climber because they grow back so fast and you don't really notice the pieces that are cut off.
The cuttings are really easy - I have been shocked with how hard other plants can be they all grow so easy.
I just got my shipment confirmation that my brugs are coming and I am not sure what to do with them once they get here. I am getting Brugmansia 'Miss Emily MacKenzie' ,'Flamenco' , 'Kurpark Bad Salzchlirf' and 'New Orleans Lady' .These are coming from Seed Sprout. They say on their website that "Unless otherwise noted all of our plants are actively growing in one gallon containers. Brugmansia and shrubs shipped to you range in size from 1 to 3 feet depending on how long they have been growing. You get a nice healthy size plant, not a newly rooted cutting." So, when these guys come, what do I do with them? They shouldn't be planted outside now, I assume. I just got my greenhouse built but I am having trouble regulating it so would not feel comfortable with that yet. Inside near a sunny window until???
Annie
They will arrive with the soil washed off, covered with some moss or wet paper towels and wrapped in plastic. Remove everything. Place in teoid water with a few drops of SuperThrive to re-hydrate. Pot in a gallon container or plastic pot 8" to 10" in diameter. Water thoroughly and place pots where they receive morning sunlight and bright light the rest of the day. Or place under florescent lights for 16 hours a day. Keep on dry side until they start to put out new leaves. Water more frequently and fertilize if you want them to continue growing actively. If you just want to keep them alive until you plant them outdoors, keep them on the dry side. Root rot kills them quickly if over watered in winter.
Wow.. seed sprout has some nice cultivars. Anyone have any yellow cuttings.. rooted or not? I can trade some watersorb polymer crystals. Mom really wants a yellow this year. I can't wait for the seed pods to ripen on my Texas Pink.. there are 3 of them.. one is large and the other two are fairly small.. guess they will take their time until it warms up more.
Tammie
Tammie,
My only two yellow Brugs, I bought late this past fall. I may be able to send cuttings this fall.
Veronica
Tammie - Shoot me a dmail and we can work something out :-)
Thanks, Bettydee! I wasn't expecting them to arrive like that so I would have really been unprepared. Any particular type of potting soil that they will like or dislike? I have Miracle Grow Potting, I have a metro mix (sterile) that I mix with some acidified cotton burr compost and I also have some "rose soil" from the Natural Gardener. I can get anything else that they might need.
Annie
I've used Miracle Grow Potting Mix without any ill effects for about 3 years . I wouldn't use the Moisture Retention mix, though. It stays too wet. Don't use any acidifying additives. Fertilizers tend to acidify the soil anyway which could result in nutrient deficiencies. Leach the soil every so often to get rid of fertilizer salts that build up in the soil.
What do you mean by LEACHING the soil Betty? I use MG garden soil for years and I swear by it. I don't use any additional fertilizer for about 4 or 5 months after planting.
Over time, what is not washed out the drain holes or used by the plant forms a salty crust ranging in color from white to rusty brown. In clay pots, you'll find the stuff outside the pot. In plastic pots, you'll find it on the soil surface. Leaching the soil just means running water through the soil until it has run out the drain holes for a bit.
MG uses a slow release fertilizer and that is not enough for Brugs. I tend to let water drain out every time I water so there isn't much salt build up in the soil.
oh ok! ... thanks I have had that happen to some sedums that I grew in a pot, it formed one big clump. I
My brugs came in about a week and a half ago and are doing well in their new containers except for the day that I put them on my back patio which receives partial west afternoon sun. Some of the leaves appeared scorched and eventually fell off. I have new growth replacing it. Since then I have been putting them out on my covered front porch, which also happens to be in deer country. Has anyone ever had the deer munch them? The deer around hear browse on sumac so they may try anything. Also, will the brugs do well in a mostly shady area?
To bloom well they will need morning sun , protection for the hot midday and afternoon sun and may be able to take some late, late, late afternoon sunlight. Mine get morning sun until about one. Then bright shade or filtered shade for the rest of the say. The only one that seems to need protection from the sun all day here in central Texas is Snowbank. Even morning sun scorches the white part of the leaves. So I keep it in the shade house when it's not in the greenhouse.
I don't know about deer chewing on Brugs because our dog keeps them away from the house here on the ranch. So I don't have any experience in that area. My biggest culprits are the grasshoppers and caterpillars that look like tomato horn "worms" — big green ones — that can denude a
Brug almost overnight.
I have my brugs in their 5 gallon containers and have been moving them in and out of the house. At what nighttime temp is it safe to leave them out? Thanks,
Annie
40 is my temp of choice..
Just thought I'd report that 'Inca Sun' really does appear to flower continuously rather than in the Brug standard cycle. This is a hybrid I purchased from Logee's. It is pot grown at present but I think I'm going to plant in the ground (I'm in Bellaire where the location should be warm enough). The plant isn't supposed grow more than 4' to 6', but outside may be larger. It did start flowering when quite small. The blooms are light yellowish peach, but to tell the truth I haven't noticed much fragrance. However, it was located by my front door where I didn't have an opportunity to notice at the appropriate time of day.
Hi LeslieT ~ I love the fragrance plants that Logees handles. In fact, their photos are so pretty, it makes me think all their blooms smell good. LOL
I have seen their photo of Inca Sun ~ very pretty. When it is in bloom, you will have to ease out there at dusk and breath deeply. They indicate it is very "intoxicating".
Leslie, Brugs produce their best fragrance at night. I ordered one a few weeks ago and can't wait til they ship it to me.
Leslie, are you new to DG? I've never seen you post before. I grew up in Bellaire on Palmetto. Many many memories of that place.