Well I WAS going to post my started seedlings but I left my camera at home today. I have some nice ones up...but I FEAR damping off because of our cool and wet weather I seem to get it really bad. I've been trying hydrogen peroxide in the water and sprinkled a little captan on the soil surface.
Anyone with other fungicidal ideas?
Some basement propagators had a few things to say about that in this thread -
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/793714/
Beth, I love your pic - do you know who the artist is?
Karen
The pic is from a shikishi card...which is a japanese hand painted card given at a special occasion like a graduation or promotion. They are often displayed in the home and treasured. The card is from the 50's and I couldn't justify buying it because it sold for $30+ so I just saved the scan.
Beth,
Last year was my first year starting seeds indoors. I used chamomile tea for a fungicide. Never had any damp off problem. Could have just been luck, but who knows...
Joanne
Our local garden center sells small bags of ground up sphagnum moss. I use it for all my seedlings (usually about 20-25 flats of flowers/vegetables). I just sprinkle it over the surface of the soil and it works like a charm. The package specifically states that it is to prevent damping off....
Sandy
to prevent pre and post emergence "damping off" related pathogens
copper sulphate and other forms of copper e.g., copper oxychloride
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=3058590
Copper sulfate pentahydrate is a fungicide and when mixed with lime it is called Bordeaux(bordo) mixture to control fungus...
Cheshunt compound is another application which is a mixture of copper sulphate and ammonium carbonate to prevent damping off in seedlings.
Two other fungicides that are effective against damping off pathogens are:
Thiram
and
Validamycin
a thin topdressing of Lava Sand (which will never ever clump up) is sometimes effective in preventing post-emergent types of damping off...
The partially milled up coconut coir fibers are reported to have a very low damping off factor similar to non-peated sphagnum moss...
Peat has an acid pH, about 3.5-4.5, while coir is 5.7-6.7,
Some types of Coco coir are very high in sodium (salt) due to the nature of Coconut Palms growing on island environments and being processed in the salty air and high salinity stimulates some types of damping off organisms.
TTY,...
Ron
P.S. - This company offers green friendly products
http://www.gardensalive.com/product.asp?pn=2783
but doesn't mention what the active component of their natural fungicide is...possibly pafungin (?)
This message was edited Jan 5, 2008 5:23 PM
Good info Ron...the only fungicide I have right now is captan. I'll look into Thiram and Validamycin. I do have copper sulfate in the lab.
Here are some seedlings. Clockwise from the top: Aogakiyama from Ronnie, Shima from last seasons plant, Strain 67 SOH from Ron.
setosa is planning to bloom soon.
crassipes is still going at it. I noticed it is setting one seed per pod now, rather than the four it did initially.
and STILL getting Gray Fog blooms.
Willie's personal trainer is helping him with his stretches first thing in the morning....ouch!
Adorable doggies Beth and a great picture. Lovely blooms too.
Love your photos, Beth! Doggie one is cute!
Aren't the Gray Fog vines just amazing? My vine continued longer than any other before if finally bit the dust! Great photos of all your MGs!
Nice pups there, mine need some lessons in exercise.. Just got back, was gone for a week visiting my DD. I may start a few MGs at the end of the month here, but not sure. All of the flagstone work on the yard was finished this morning (thank god), I felt like I had company for almost a year with everyone here for so long working on the yard. Now I just need to move some pots around and place several in their permanent locations.
You are brave starting with seedlings now, I'm so tired today that I cannot even imagine it.
I just got equitans to germinate, yeah!
Here are more photos of setosa, I'm getting a bloom every day now.
another
Lovely color Beth. Ronnie kindly shared seeds of this one with me. I'll
have to set my alarm clock to see the blooms. LOL
Nice flowers Beth,
Hi Jackie...
This is going to be a great year, I just got my potatoes ready to plant, and also soaked some MG seeds this morning. But what I'm really looking forward to is all the bulbs coming up and blooming.. there should be almost 2000. I've got another 100 or more spring bulbs to plant this week. (and veggies too).. the garlic is in, so are the onions, now just the asparagus, more onions and potatoes..
I love food.. I must be hungry..
lol.
A.
How much property do you have, A? It must be must bigger than my standard residental lot! LOL!
Beth - Your Setosa blooms are lovely. My vine is nothing more than thorny-looking vine (no leaves) and ripening seed pods. It still looks so cool even without leaves. I think it is on it's way out. Colder weather seems to have shortened it's life span. :-( Can't wait until Spring ... which for us will be in March! I think we actually get 1 month of cold weather and that's it. Though we do seem to get endless months of scorching weather to make up for the lack of cold winter weather.
Hey Becky,
Got some seeds dry for you, will send them next week or end of this week..
we have 1 acre but it is now, not all dirt..in CA we had 2 1/2 acres, so this is alot smaller.
Hi A, You must have a lot more energy than I do. I don't want to have to work so hard at gardening. LOL There was a great article on the sign in page re planting potatoes on top of the ground using leaves as the planting medium, very interesting.
Your spring bulbs will be beautiful. Let us know when you post pics on that forum
please.
Jackie
Thanks Jackie,
These bulbs went in throughout the fall, I know I couldn't do it now... and, yes, i saw the article, great help for me since this is the first year with potatoes..
Becky, last week I received my three field books on butterflies from teh audoban society.... I'm gearing to raise more plants for butterflies and hummers this year.. so far I've got about a dozen seedlings of aristolochia plants and a couple more things up my sleeve. I could use advice on how to raise the butterflies if you get a chance could you direct me to one of your posts if you addressed this already?
Tks.
A.
The grow room this morning.
Woah,,, that looks great.
Mine has about a dozen plumeria, my perrenial tubers, three giant Brugs, several desert rose caudiforms and several flats of drought tolerant seeds that I sowed yesterday.
Great going there.
Oh Joseph that is great, i've got alot of veggies to start this year.. then the flowers.
Joseph, are you growing your MG under lights right now, or just using natural light? Just curious...
Joseph how many hours of light? I have may want to change mine.....Beth how many hours are yours on?
Thanks Joseph!
Mine are on 10 hours.
Thanks Beth, I'll cut mine back some...
You don't necessarily have to. I was really worried about the length of time under lights when I first started growing indoors. I have learned that they will pretty much bloom and set seed no matter how much light they get. I've tried 8 hours up to 24 hours, and I'm mystified that they don't seem to care.
equitans from Waxahatchie, Texas. Seeds are sprouting!
Hi Beth - Very interesting cotyledons on that C.equitans as the shape more closely resembles the tribes having echinate pollen rather than the usually more rounded cotyledons of the tribes having psilate pollen...
Looking forward to seeing the 1st sets of true leaves...
TTY,...
Ron
I am interested to see what the Xiong's Chinese MG looks like. Glad to hear you are growing it, Joseph!
Beth - Your set-up and the variety you are growing indoors just truly amazes me! Keep those photos coming!!!
I decided just for the heck of it to throw some misc. MG seeds in the large pot with the expiring Brazilian MG vine. I have a bunch of vines now growing and using the Brazilian vine as a trellis! LOL! No blooms yet, but expect some soon. The weather here has been so warm. Not much winter weather at all to speak of this year. I may be jinxing myself, but I have sowed tons and tons of Butterfly and Hummingbird plant seeds in my backyard beds and have all kinds of new sprouts growing now. Hopefully, we won't get a hard freeze that kills everything. I took a chance because it has been so unusually warm this winter and threw out the seeds in the hopes that they would be fine. It gets so darn hot during the summer months, that I figured I give all the seedlings a head start this year so they might bloom sooner and get bigger so they might survive the scorching heat in August. We shall see if it works! ;-)
I will try to be brief. Mosser Lee no damp off sphagnum moss. This is wat many people use in circumstances where damping off is a real black cloud to germinating rare, unique, or f1 hybrid seeds. It is good stuff and got rave reviews from the hybridizers in the Rhododendron Society mettings in the 70s. Mosser Lee has a web site frequented by
orchid enthusiasts. Just google it.
Weather report. I am emailing free snow to anybody that wants it.
It looks like our cold summer, is not over. lol Frank
