Ipomoea nil Grey Fog

This one flower too right now, I be so happy this morning when the first flower shows, I have dig it up outside and put in a pot and take inside, but the plant did not concerned, about that.

Pretty! I hope it transplants well!

Great color

Jackie

Pretty bloom! Is it a large bloom? Was your picture taken right after it bloomed or later in the day?

I grew an awesome vine this year called "Gray Fog". (Different spelling than yours.) It had gray blooms with pink throats. I don't remember what mine looked like later in the day.

I was wondering what Gray Fog was supposed to look like. I'm going to post 3 pics of 3 vines I grew by that name from Emma. Once I find out what it's supposed to look like, I'll try to keep it "true" from year to year, but for now, I feel like I got 3 times the beauty for this one cultivar.

Gray Fog 33-1 (my number)

Gray Fog 33-2

Karen - I got my seeds from Emma, too! I only grew out one seed and that's what mine turned out to look like. Emma confirmed the ID on it. I had others that either I mismarked or she mixed up. So human error can happen.

Your 33-1 looks similar to my Solid Chocolate Silk (shown here).

Here's my gray fog. I only grew one plant but it had so many blooms!

Gray Fog 33-3

The months toiling to keep these vines separately identifiable is enabling me to save seeds according to the vine they came from - the genetics are too fascinating & full of possibility not to do that.

Hopefully someone will come forward with the true Gray Fog to assuage my curiosity - no slight intended toward any of these very pretty siblings.

Karen

Karen - What was the color of the bloom on that last one? Was it gray? It looks beautiful!!! As do the other two! :-)

Beth - Ooooh! Nice one! :-)

I guess the question is ...... will the REAL Gray Fog please stand up?!!! lol

If anyone wants some of my Gray Fog seeds, d-mail me. I have plenty! I would love to see what my seeds turn out to look like when they bloom! :-)

Note: Every single one of my hundreds of blooms looked exactly the same. The flowers on mine were a very stable characteristic!

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Hobbyodlaren, please excuse my bad manners. I'm very glad to meet you and appreciate your starting these threads. They'll enable us all to share pics of vines by same name and compare possible variations. I would like, some day, to be able to look at a MG and know the genetic makeup behind the physical manifestation.

Becky and Beth, the darker gray of yours seems to more subtly infuse its neighborhood, while my 33-2 and 33-3 seem more sharply delineated - so it looks to me like yours is more like "fog" - lol.

But, the pink 33-1, when I compared it to the Rose-Chocolate Silk I grew out for the second summer from Emma's, seemed to have a thicker substance as opposed to that thin silk quality of the silks I grew. Also, 33-1 had that effect of diamond dust that I did not see to such great degree on the silks. And then, the pink of 33-1 has a very enchanting "smoky" quality that makes it special to me.

Well, Becky did say that http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=4126627 is the one that Emma confirmed as Gray Fog.

If so, then I better not call mine by that name, but just indicate Gray Fog as a parent.

Is this "diamond dust" of a MG flower something that any cultivars are known to have more than others? Comparing Gray Fog 33-1 with the rose silks this summer, there definitely seems to be quite a bit of variation in that characteristic.

Hobby, this pink variant of Gray Fog was one of my favorites this summer. I couldn't resist posting when you presented it in your thread.

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Oops! I referenced Beth's Gray Fog instead of Becky's with regard to Emma's confirming the true identity. I'm going back in there and de-confusing it. Beth, yours fogs up nicely :)

Emma! help us out here!

Karen - Emma confirmed to me in a d-mail that my vine as shown in the above photo was Gray Fog. She said that the seed I grew out came true from the parent vine. So ...... I take that to mean that mine is "Gray Fog" as she defines it. She wondered if it would come true and said that it did. I don't know what generation my seed was.

Karen - I noticed the white throat on your 33-1 is wider than my Solid Chocolate Silk. Both are just beautiful!!! Not the same I know .... but when I saw yours it made me think of my SCS blooms.

I think this is the MAIN reason I have grown to love MGs so much .... the unexpected and the amazing variations and colors in the blooms are truly breath-taking!!!

I think someone here on the forum mentioned something about the "diamond dust" but I don't recall what the reply was. Good question! I don't see that effect on all my blooms/vines only a few of them. And it's usually from the same vines. Interesting thought about that.....

In response to Becky's question asking Hobby if his pink Gray Fog was large, let me say mine was huge, whereas the two gray siblings were small. All of them were incredibly profuse and vigorous. Hobby, I too would like to know if your Gray Fog was large -- ?

Becky, I hear you about trading - am putting this thread in my MG trade file for December. Pods of my Gray Fog vines are still green on stems indoors - it'll be December before I've got everything dried & aired out properly. Hobby & Beth & Patootie, I'm giving you priority for these seeds.

hobbyodlaren - THANKS for starting a very interesting thread! And welcome to the MG forum!!!

Becky, we keep crossing posts - yup - inching forward through mysteries of MGs beats a detective novel any day :)

very nice grey fogs :::::
looks like theres some variations

pamsue

My Gray Fogs were on the smaller size, but prolific bloomers! I, too, have lots of green pods that probably won't be dry until the holidays. I'd hate to pull them off too soon and compromise their germination rate.

My Gray Fogs were smaller blooms too and also very prolific! After my Yaguruma Blizzard, it probably was the next vine to flower the most. And it won hands down for the most seeds produced!

Maybe if we could cross earlier-blooming nils or youjiros with a flower like Gray Fog whose pods don't ripen before frost for some of us, we could 'enjoy our Gray Fog and harvest it too'.

The above enumerated superb qualities of Gray Fog certainly make it worthwhile to do that.

Can anyone think of a Ipomoea nil or I. youjiro to try to cross with Gray Fog to someday create an earlier blooming version?

Out of 50 or so different MGs this past summer in our garden, the first to bloom was I. nil 'Star of India'. And the next two were youjiro seedlings with very similar coloration and pattern, except they lacked none of the nil's restraint; that is, they had up to 3 buds on one pedicel and had no manners whatsoever with regard to neighbors - just glommed right over them. You'd think there was a Calystegia somewhere back among their ancestors (kidding - couldn't resist the hyperbole here).

Is it possible that earliness of bloom might be linked to that color and pattern? Anybody else know of unusually early-to-bloom cultivars of I. nil? What a great direction of breeding to go towards - especially where nils notoriously won't set seed before frost.

Still wondering about the "diamond dust"...?

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Yup ... mine tried to grow all over their neighbors! And today my Yagurama Blizzard had another 20 blooms on it. (In all honesty, I thought the vine was about done. Ha! It showed me who's boss!) Mine seem to really bloom up a storm especially after a day of rainfall. Do they like more acidic conditions to bloom in? My Gray Fog vine looks pretty done too, but it still puts out between 2-6 blooms a day. I think we should rename them the Ever Ready Bunny Blooms!

Karen-blu - I hope Sylvia doesn't mind all the 'supplementary' postings to her thread...

some 'musings' on reflective particles and 'diamond dust'...
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=1703946
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=1740441
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=3764534

We may need AnneX to analyze the degree (and type?) of reflectance of the blooms...maybe the reflective particles get somehow covered up and/or otherwise camoflaged so as to not be very apparent to the human eye but still function in relation to heat inducing ElectoMagnetic spectra like infrared...

TTY,...

Ron

Nice of you to answer one of my questions inspired by Gray Fog, Ron. I think they are all valid questions.

Hi all nice I´ve start some discussions :o)
My Gray Fog, which I´ve spell wrong in the thread is also FROM EMMAS seed.
I be very surprised for the light lilac look, it is not pink, the camera lies a little. I took the picture in the early morning when it was dark outside, Here is a new one, took it now and it begin to lighten outside now.

Hmmm - must be the lilac shadows that give it the smoky fog - so pretty

Lovely color and flirty-looking bloom, hobbyodlaren! Nice one!!! :-)

Hi I saw that Grey i brittish English, these why I spell with E first :o)
Well I wanted my flower to be as gray as Beckys flower is above. But I think my one is awesome too. Perhaps it will be more gray next year, when I start it earlier, so it will bloom in the summer.
~Sylvia