Plant Files Progress Report

Poor Gail! Y'all should know that I have nagged the daylights out of her throughout this whole process. Nit-picking, I am!

P and T are both done, right Gail? If so, I'm moving on to those right now... :o)

OK.........the g's are finished.......I just didn't finish those last ones?????????? The P's and
T;s are done..............I am glad you are a nit picker.......I am not a detail person at all............

My company is coming in until Tuesday............be here any minute.........I will come back on Tuesday and start my master list from the beginning to the end of the plants we couldn't find information on............................

The the best part of all happens.............we can add plants that we know people have and are familiar with so they can upload photos............love those photos.............
As Joan says, Happy Gardening ladies....................
gessiegail

You have fun with that company, Gail! You've earned it! Big hugs to you! :o)

Jan is done with the descriptions on the O section, too. You've worked so hard Jan!! :o)

Movin' on.....fantastic on all of the above. We sure do have an all star team.

I've gotten V's, W's, Y's, and Z's completed w/ descriptions and details. I can't seem to be able to edit today, so I will have to wait until tomorrow to post our progress.

Have a great day everyone.!

I think Joan and I have gone through and removed the winter interest and the propagation info you didn't want. I'm sure we might have missed some so it we did please send a report. We've been working on the ones that didn't have a description as well. So I hope we haven't stepped an anybodies toes. I've been trying to hunt down ones not on the cd and add descriptions to those so whoever is filling in the details will have the info. I think we will still have some bogess entries that need deleted but for themost part they have been legit. I have found some duplicates today as well.

Thanks again for all your work.

I simply haven't had time to do much on it today, and don't know that I'll get much, if any, done tonight. But tomorrow I should have quite a bit of time to spend on it.

Thank you both so much for doing all that work! It will save us so much time. :o)

Joan...............please do know that we intend to go back over every single page when Rain gets through of the letters that we did..............I make mistakes all the time........so you certainly will not be stepping on anyone's toes...........thanks for all your help and mystic's too.

I sure did notice the propagation's been cleaned up. Thank you! And for the all the other extras...Joan and mystic.

I went through all the A's and checked for details and added where needed except for propagation and size which jannich is checking and doing if needed. When I get the final bell on the A's....I will mark them completed said smiling ear to ear. Then on to the B's for details with jannich's help.

The T's are now complete with details.

We need an opinion as to whether these could be duplicates or not.

Optimara Little Cheyenne http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/155211/
Little Cheyenne Girl http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/131164/

AVML has it listed as Optimara Little Cheyenne, but the optimara website has it listed as Optimara Little Cheyenne Girl? http://www.optimara.com/optimarafieldguide/varietiesa-l/cheyenne.html


Optimara Little Azurite http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/155210/
Little Azurite Girl http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/131162/

AVML has it listed as Optimara Little Azurite, as does the optimara website http://www.optimara.com/optimarafieldguide/varietiesa-l/azurite.html

If you can help us out with those two, we would really appreciate it.

Peggy and I might not be around too much this afternoon, but we'll get to your reports later this evening. You all are doing great!

Both Little Cheyennes are definitely the same plant, as are both Little Azurites. Each set shares the very same AVSA registration number. They need to be combined in to one listing each, one for Cheyenne and one for Azurite. I don't know that it matters which name is chosen, but the other should be listed as an "aka" on the entry.

I'm inclined to leave the "Girl" off, because, in my mind, that indicates girl leaves, which neither of these have.

This goes right along with the Optimara problem I spoke of in one of my error reports. There is no consistency among Optimara AVs and it makes it very difficult to deal with them.

I just checked, and all the others in the "Little Indian" series from Optimara, which Optimara Little Cheyenne is part of, do not have "Girl" at the end in our PF.

Optimara Little Arapahoe
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/155209/

Optimara Little Comanche
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/155213/

Optimara Little Azurite is part of the "Little Jewel" series. None of those have "Girl" at the end of them on Optimara or in the PF.

Optimara Little Diamond
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/155216/

Optimara Little Rose Quartz
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/63225/

I hope that helps, rather than complicates. :o)

Just so I have this straight before I start the housekeeping task:

There are two entries for Little Diamond, and Peggy and I have already agreed that we will be combining these. http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/adv_search.php?searcher%5Bcommon%5D=&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=saintpaulia&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=Little+Diamond&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&search_prefs%5Bblank_cultivar%5D=&search_prefs%5Bsort_by%5D=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search

The two entries for Little Azurite should also be combined with no 'girl' or aka Yes? http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/adv_search.php?searcher%5Bcommon%5D=&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=saintpaulia&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=Little+Azurite&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&search_prefs%5Bblank_cultivar%5D=&search_prefs%5Bsort_by%5D=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search

The two entries for Cheyenne should be combined with 'Optimara Little Cheyenne Girl' as an aka, since that's the way it's listed on the Optimara website? Or the other way around? http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/adv_search.php?searcher%5Bcommon%5D=&searcher%5Bfamily%5D=&searcher%5Bgenus%5D=saintpaulia&searcher%5Bspecies%5D=&searcher%5Bcultivar%5D=Cheyenne&searcher%5Bhybridizer%5D=&search_prefs%5Bblank_cultivar%5D=&search_prefs%5Bsort_by%5D=rating&images_prefs=both&Search=Search

I took a stroll through the Optimara entries last night and tried to search for possible duplicate entries because Optimara was left off. That's how I found these. I may have missed some, so if you want to go back through them again once we are done with all the rest, that would be great.

I added an aka to the Little Arapaho and Little Comanche entries to include the 'girl' notation. I really think we need to do that, because that's how they are listed on the Optimara website. http://www.optimara.com/optimarafieldguide/violetsbyseries/littleindian.html

I'm back and trying to catch up a bit before going out to water plants in the dark...

Wow, folks have really been going to town on these files! Fabulous!

CJ, I think I can do the checkboxes etc. for the C's as well as the descriptions, so just let me know what letter you want to tackle next, and I'll start adding the FC descriptions.

I saw the color questions above... I'm pretty sure that "bitone" means two different colors (like a white bloom with a big pink thumbprint marking), and "two tone" means two shades of the same color (like pale pink with dark pink fantasy).

On propagation, I don't know much about tissue culture, but wouldn't it be an appropriate option for vegetative propagation of any non-chimera AV? I wasn't sure what was meant by "cleaning up" the tissue culture stuff... removing it where it was checked off? When we redid the propagation options for AVs, I thought that was one that we decided was needed... so, somebody please tell me what we're doing with that option. Thanks!

Tissue culture is no longer an option as a checkoff for propagation. Don't even go there critter. Thanks for getting started on the C's.

I think cjolene has been working for the last few days on other letters with people..............???????????????

Just an FYI, I have combined the entries in question that I noted above.

When my company leaves on tuesday,, Amy and i are going to go back through every single plant and double check to make a master list of all that don't have descriptions.........in the beginning i turned them in as errors...................then it was decided to make that master list of "not in my database".................we will turn all of them into you, Joan.............

Thanks! I'll get the copy to mystic also and we will see what we can find. If you wouldn't mind trying to find the information on the ones you can before turning the list in, that would be great and would save us a ton of time.

OK..............Amy knows a lot of other sites that I don't know about..........she was shocking me with all these sites ..............we will work real hard to complete the information.......thanks Joan and Mystic...............

Joan, thank you for combining those. There are several more in the "Little Indian" and "Little Jewel" series that may need attention, but, as Gail said, she and I had planned to go back through and make a list of all that don't have descriptions, so I'll send you a report on those when I get to them. :o)

I had just thought about suggesting that we look up on the internet the ones that aren't in FC. I've got a host of sites bookmarked, so Gail and I will compile the list and find descriptions on all we can.

Thanks for helping me with that, Gail! It will be a big job! :o)

There may also be duplicates of the Rhapsodie series

That's another one that gets the first part of the name left off a lot. :o( We'll check 'em!

Rain, my friend goes to bed at 8 in the evening.......tomorrow night I will go over all the R's........I must have missed some duplicates...........will you dmail me those sites you have been using to help me find descriptions? thanks
You can send them tomorrow to me...............

Did I miss a discussion on tissue culture? I'm not asking to be difficult -- I'm perfectly happy if an inappropriate option has been removed from the list. I'm just sorry we didn't catch it when we were trying to get everybody's input on propagation options earlier in the year. The only thing I've come across with regard to AVs and TC is that I saw a description of a tissue culture "kit" that had African violets as a propagation exercise.

I suppose if tissue culture were a good option for propagation, you'd see more vendors doing it -- but most growers seem to propagate from leaf, and even the "mass produced" AVs seem to be seed grown.

If somebody has a link to share on the subject, I'd appreciate it. As I said, I'm not trying to argue the point at all, but now you've got me curious!

Also, in terms of "cleaning up" -- what are we to do with the entries? Are there still AV pages with "tissue culture" listed as a propagation option? And if we find them, should we mention that in an error report?

Thanks!

Sorry, confused some more about the propagation options... I just entered details for 'Cambridge Missy', and "tissue culture" was still an available option on the propagation checkbox list. (I did not check it!) Is that option being removed as Snowrose mentioned?

I'll try to answer the only one of your questions that I can. :)

OK, I must have missed that bit. Thanks!

"Grown from seed" is probably appropriate for any of the "species" AVs, just not for any of the hybrids (the named varieties which comprise the bulk of the PF entries).

Very true. If the entry is a species, then growing from seed would be appropriate to check.

critter, I gathered together all the information from the questions I asked and such, and typed up all I had figured out. I posted it here: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/762864/ This might answer some of your questions and help you a bit.

Thanks for pointing me there! That's a great summary of our earlier discussion thread. It does indeed tell me what to do with "tissue culture" entries as well as verifying some other things for me. :-)

Hi guys ; ) N is done. Any other letters to do or are we done?

Wow, I just checked the A to Z list... I'm amazed at how quickly this effort has progressed!

LOL, I thought I'd have plenty of time to catch up on the C's after I got back home, and now we're at the "almost done" stage! I'll keep working on them, and I'll get 'er done, but I sure hope nobody will set a stopwatch to time me. :-)

Snow, Rain and others stayed up until 3 and 4 in the morning to get this done...........Bravo to the team effort!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uh Oh...............help..................I have been using only one method for regular propagation to check on the files............have come across one where 3 different boxes were checked...........(not the chimera)..............is this a mistake or am I doing it wrong...............

Check the thread RG started about doing the checkboxes... We're skipping over the tissue culture option (or reporting it as an error and asking for it to be unchecked). Seeds are only appropriate for species entries, not hybrids. So only one option -- either the cuttings option (for non-chimera hybrids) or the chimera option should be checked for the named hybrid entries.

If it's not a Chimera, then only May be propagated by cuttings should be checked.

If anything else is checked, submit an error report so they can remove them. Does that help? :o)