do you see this splashing on the leaf petioles?
can you explain, "the flower had a splash last year but it was in a pattern not like the viral splash?"
here's a pic of my jeannie mo with splash. i'll post pics of the leaf petioles shortly.
Anyone ever have flowers like this?
here is a pic of leaves from jeannie mo. you can see some type of splash in the leaf petiole. notice the leaf attached to splashed petiole and the healthy looking one next to it. petioles w/o splash have healthier looking leaves.
dete
has anyone ever seen splash in a white flower? i wonder what that would look like if possible.
Yours does look viral
I havent looked at the leaf stems
Im gonna go do it now.
I have intentionally infected celadines
I think the flowers look spectacular
However im a bit of a madman when it comes to these things. ^^
what color of splash does the white part of the petal get?
Michael, the leaves of your seedling look like the symptoms of a virus. Maybe the virus was transferred to the seedling when you took a cutting. I don't see it in your flower however.
Dete, I agree that your J.M. is showing the virus. I don't have any leaves showing it -- just the flowers. I've never seen it in a white flower, but I have in yellow whites. It splashes purple.
Dete, this is what it looks like on 'Vishanu Gold,' a white/yellow flower: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=3808188
This message was edited Aug 15, 2007 6:50 PM
clare - the link doesn't show a pic.
Try again. I just fixed it. It is the same flower as posted above.
This message was edited Aug 15, 2007 6:51 PM
whoa! thanks clare.
My leaf stems are normal.
I do sterilize my cutting utensils pretty thoroughly.
My dog is quite tired of licking them. haha
I use alcohol and wipe real well between cuts.
I never reuse the same surface on the towel.
Im curious if its viral because it doesn't look like what I've seen in the past
This has the sort of pattern of one of the variegates only its a very dark color.
They dont look damaged or ill (yet)
Ill take another photo in the full sun tomorrow.
i am keeping my jeannie mo. i will be careful not to spread this virus. however, until jeannie croaks she's gonna stay in the collection.
Michael, did you see the leaves with a virus that Kukiat posted on the other thread? Here's a link: http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/759034/ This is how he tests for the virus. Here is a picture of his. These leaves are showing the virus.
I did yes
Mine still look dark green at this point
His look brown and ill.
Im going to look more tomorrow in the sun.
Michael, it's hard to ID from the picture. From my experience, the symptom due to virus develops as the new leaf emerges. Symptoms on leaves come with different shapes and patterns. From the picture, it may be virus. I could not see your flower picture.
The white sap from plumeria is very sticky and hard to remove from tools. Alcohol may not be able to travel into the sticky sap on the tools (knife) so the virus may still survive. I used to use alcohol too but I finally decide to boil all my tools to make sure that all viruses are completely killed.
Dete, Splash can be found on the leaf petioles. In fact it can be found on young shoots as well. Virus infected Coral Cream plumeria commonly shows these symptoms.
Specking about white flowers, I have never seen CB on the (True) white flowers such Singapore White. But they may already be infected with virus. Some white cultivars that have hidden red pigments inside should have CB on their flowers. Some yellow/white cultivars such as virus infected Ammaron Culry White plumeria shows no CB on flowers but on leaves. In my opinion, ACW may not have red pigments in flowers therefore there is no CB appear on this particular area.
This message was edited Aug 17, 2007 12:21 AM
hi kukiat - my pic above shows splashing on the petiole.
That is a very good picture and demonstration of the virus, Kukiat. Thanks for posting that.
Here is something interesting that I saw while browsing. It is a picture of a 'Samoan Fluff,' posted by Kaz: http://www.mauiplumeriagardens.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11670&hl=Samoan+Fluff Kaz says that this is a 'Samoan Fluff' that has bloomed true for years. Could this be the virus, Kukiat? I see no other reason why this would happen.
Clare, I am not able to connect to MPG for a week now. In my opinion this picture is not Samoan Fluff and I do not think it is virus.
good obs kukiat. samoan fluff has more overlapped petals. i too thought i had a samoan fluff until someone pointed out the petals to me.
now is there a chance that someone's growing conditions can change the petal shape?
Okay, good. Yes, you are right that the petal shape is not right, and it should be affected by growing conditions. The streaking is weird though. I'm glad to know that it is not a virus doing this.
I checked my gal again today and noted that the splotched areas may be dead cells
The leaf begins to curl around them at that point indicating no growth there.
Hmmmmm...
Another one for the funny factory.
Michael, then it should not be due to virus since the area (symptom) caused by virus should be live not dead cells.
I meant to say about "shouldn't be affected by growing condtions" in the above post.
that's what i thought you meant. LOL