My vitellina had bloomed when I checked the greenhouse this morning!
Blessings,
Awanda
Bloomin May Flowas
I have two open umbels on Hoya thomsonii with two more set to open. The smell is so strong and sweet it makes me want to barf...kind of like stale old lady perfume with a hint of rotting garbage! The scent pervades every square inch of my house and I cannot escape from it, even after shutting it up in a closet for the evening. When I came home last night and opened the door, I felt like someone whacked me on top of my head with a sledge hammer. And all this after waiting *years* for this one to bloom. Bleck!
Arnottiana... not my favourite "smell"!!
Cv. Noelle seems to be a very frequent bloomer. Nice fragrance too!
Inconspicua just opened up...
Motoskei is blooming too...
Exciting to see what the aff. hellwigiana will look like. Buds have been sunbathing...!
Sigillatis will also be a first time bloomer for me.
Gorgeous flowers, all. Awanda...I don't think that flower is H. vitellina... H. vitellina has 'egg yolk' yellow flowers...
Carol, I was wondering about the color of Awanda's vitellina too. I remember the awesome picture of vitellina that Mark showed us, after his visit to your (green)house, and it wasn't the creamy white that Awanda's picture shows.
Do you think that Awanda's flower is possibly the fuscomarginata? I did find that the one that I previously had labeled as vitellina was changed at some point to fuscomarginata.
Thanks for helping to keep us all straight.
Sara
Carol that's what it was labeled as when I purchased it from you. The coloring in person is much more yellow than what it shows in the picture, but not as yellow as the one on your website. I'm going to post a picture of the leaves.
Blessings,
Awanda
This message was edited May 1, 2007 10:20 AM
Awanda,
I purchased my first vitellina from Carol too, but at sometime I think it was determined that it wasn't vitellina, but fuscomarginata (saw the name change on my tag). I think that there is even a post somewhere on this forum with the update. I need to do some sleuthing.
I did notice in David Liddle's spring catalog that he has two vitellinas listed.
The first one, IML 0452 reads: 'Christine Burton's interpretation, leaf green with black margin, cream flowers'
The second one, IML1348 sp. IPPS7203 reads: 'Ted Green's interpretation, orange flowers, very nice'
I am a little slower than most when it comes to keeping up with Hoya ID's, and Carol helped straighten me out recently on another hoya forum of which we are both members.
Sara
After some googling I found a picture labeled as "fusco marginata-vitellina" and the picture is what I have, which means I don't have a vitellina after all....sniff...sniff....
http://www.kerstinshemsida.se/Hoya/fuscomarginata.htm
Blessings,
Awanda
Awanda, please don't be sad!! :)
I was recently gifted with some very generous cuttings of vitellina (Mark's / Carol's) "egg yolk" true version. (I love the mental image those two words bring to my mind), and the leaves are beautiful. However I still LOVE my first vitellina / fuscomarginata a lot. I love the huge thick leaves, and the really cool black/red margin.
S
Here's my only bloomer right now.
Fungii
Mulletman, that is beautiful. I have been trying to get my fungii to bloom for years.
Good growing :)
Awanda...I think, somewhere here, I posted the information that my H. vitellina WAS H. finlaysonii and that the plant I used to have as H. vitellina is really H. fusco-marginata. I was told by a grower in GA that I had them right before...but it turns out that this duo is the subject of much 'debate' and I am sticking with what I have changed them to. Seems to be correct. Sorry if I caused some consternation...
Okay!! I have what appears to be the same hoya that Awanda opened this thread with. I got it from David Liddle. It is IML 0452 vitellina in his current catalog ---quote" Christine Burtons interpretation,leaf green with black margin,cream flowers"
Mine has been blooming now for several weeks but currently is in between umble openings,in other words no flowers open right now but they are identical to the flowers of Awandas.
Carol is the one that you have now as H. vitellina the Ted Green version with orange flowers???
The pic is just a little fuzzy but this is what the leaves look like on the plant that I have labled as H. vitellina from David Liddle
dmichael
This message was edited May 1, 2007 9:09 PM
Yeppers that's what my leaves look like too David. I really like the look of the leaves, so nice and big.
Blessings,
Awanda
Carol, what have I got here then? I got this H. vitellina from you about two years ago. Is it vitellina or is it finlaysonii or fusco-marginata? I'm so confused :)
And once we know what it is... how best should I look after it? It got a major sunburn last year when I forgot about it out in the FL sun for about a week. A few of the leaves got holes burnt right through them, in fact a couple of leaves are still missing tissue from their middles. Anyhow, it hasn't grown very much at all since I've had it. Any tips for this guy?
I don't know about anyone else but now I want them both :~) FAB photos everyone! -joanne
dm...yes. The 'chris burton' H. vitellina is what I had as H. vitellina until recently. This whole name thingy goes back to chris burton/Ted Green stuff. Ted calls it H. fuscomarginata. David Liddle lists one as cb's interpretation of H. vitellina and the other as Ted Green's interpretation of H. vitellina. Here I have chosen to follow Ted Green so I am calling that big leafed hoya with the dark margins when it gets a lot of light...H. fusco-marginata.
MM - I have one growing out in deep shade with bright indirect light and it is climbing a tree and very healthy. The leaves shelter the soil (it is in a 16" pot) so it doesn't get too much rain...but the ambient humidity is high and the tree gives it nutrients and water. I have never seen flowers on it because it is blooming so high up there!!!!!
Awanda I really like this hoya as well. The contrasting black border on those dark green leaves is awesome. It's a decent grower for me as well putting on a lot of new growth each year. It is a prolific bloomer as well making tons of peduncles when the new growth begins to appear.
I grow this one in the front left hand corner of my gh which is made out of smokish colored opague fibergalss but allows high light to enter. Full sun shines on that particular corner until about mid morning and the plant then gets very bright indirect light up until about mid afternoon.
Since I got this plant from David Liddle and he is at least currently in partial agreement with Chris as to it's name being H. vitellina other wise he wouldnt have put it in his catalog as such,i'm going to keep mine labled as H. vitellina. I'll just have 2 very different clones as I also have the one that Carol grows as vitellina that blooms the orange flowers.
dmichael
H. rigida fully open.
DITTO - my H. rigida is fully open too..and the umbel is HUGE...big as a tennis ball!!!
Carol, how do you like the scent? To me, it smells just like verticillata.
Yes, Mark...funny about that! When I got it from David Liddle it was labeled:
H. rigida (H. verticillata)and a DMC#. When I asked why David said that it was the H. rigida closest to H. verticillata and comparable to it...but NOT it. There IS another H. rigida with a bigger leaf and for me a slower grower. I really like H. verticillata so the scent doesn't put me off.
I do think many smell like H. verticillata.
I remember a conversation with David a couple of years ago when he explained how he collects in the wild: he will collect, even the same species, from nearby in close proximity to those he has already collected. He has found that H. verticillata has many many variations in leaf...and that it is found all over the place. I think I have 5 or 6 different clones with slightly differently shaped leaves. A good subject for a Stemma article!!!
Carol
Carol and Mark do you both find the scent of veticillata overpowering?? My variegated version is currently in bloom with MANY umbles open at the same time and it is all I can smell in my hoya house (14W x10H x 26L) and the fragrance from this one 6" basket of hoya fills the entire space.
I removed an umble from the plant and as just a single cluster the fragrance wasnt bad but with 10-12 open all at once the scent becomes almost unpleasant and it kinda sort of reminds me of hyacinths.
dmichael
Yes, it IS strong...perhaps some with more subtle taste would find it overpowering...but I love it!!!
I dont find it to be an offensive smell,it just seems to overpower all of the other hoyas when its in bloom!!
Yes...that it does! ;>)))
Oh, I wasn't complaining. I like the verticillata smell, I was just surprised because the flowers looked so much like pachyclada's, I was expecting it to smell more like that.
That aff. hellwigiana sure seems to like the sun. The buds look sooooo cool and it can't be long before they open!
Christina
That is a great shot, Christina. Has this one bloomed for you before?
Thanks! No, this is the first time it's going to flower. It still hasn't opened up yet! It's quite frustrating!
One that is starting to open is my walliniana. It's also a first time bloomer for me.
Here's a fresh photo of the walliniana, taken around midnight...
Christina, that is one incredible flower! I have never heard of walliniana. What conditions do you grow it in? Will it take cooler temps? Thanks and God bless, -joanne
Great pictures everyone! After nearly two months of watching and waiting, H. archboldiana finally started opening yesterday morning - my birthday - what a sweet present!! There are three flowers and two have now opened. Here they are posing ever so nicely. The scent is very light, and very pretty.
Christine
Nice flowers and pictures, everyone!!
H. serpens started to open last night. I could smell it then but not durring the day. I have been watching and waiting on these blooms since the end of January! It's allways blasted in the past. This is the first bloom :~)
God bless, -joanne
