poo-poo winter storm warning

I'm tempted to give some of the deer in my area directions to the LIE. I'll tell them there is a major buffet awaiting them on the east end. Do you have labels for all those babies?

Most, not all. Many times I could (and did) make one label for a hybridized grouping. So I have one area of 20 of the exact same cross all together - no need for an additional 9 labels.

As for the deer they stop at the property next door and then return to their haunts. Somebody up there must enjoy our daylilies and the deer aren't a problem. Even at our neighbor's house they only eat rosebuds and not the hosta.

Pirl, can I come visit your garden when it is in bloom - it must be spectacular!

Here's an easy way to tour our gardens - http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/528730/

Gram,
Looks like DH may be getting the DL bug. LOL However....before you order any, please check w/me to see if I have some of the variety you desire and I will gladly share if I have extra fans.

Pirl's 2000 DL just makes me drool, her gardens are beautiful. My DH saw some of her purple DL and just went ga-ga. Purple is one of his favorites when it comes to DL.

Here's two of the 2,000.

Nice!

Pirl, I took the tour and your whole yard is lush & gogeous!!

Pirl..Pandora's Box & Piccadilly Princess? Hard to guess by a picture but they are beautiful clumps no matter what they are!

Thank you Victor and Dave!

Pixie - Pandora's Box and (there is a path all around those areas) Dancing Shiva around a birdbath.

Pirl, I might have to take a trip at dividing time!!

Pirl, I got it right!!!(only because I have one too) How bout the pinkish DL in the background .....what is that one? Thats the one I wondered if it was Piccadilly Princess, as I have PP coming this spring.


Link to Treeclimbers picture of Piccadilly Princess
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=3237075


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The pink one really is Dancing Shiva. It came from Oakes and loves being in afternoon shade.

Victor - just name your colors and I can show you where to dig! Bring shovels, pails, tarps, labels with you.

I have PP coming right now - I'll be right back.

Sounds great Pirl. I'll trade daylilies for one five and one eight year old boy.

I don't believe that for a second! Now, if you said you had some deer you wanted to "move on" I could believe it but, no thank you!

LOL Victor!! PP coming...at first i thought you were getting Piccadilly.....then you said now! I'm a bit slow this evening, took me a second to get it.
What did those boys do so bad that your gonna trade em????????

Pirl, thanks for the name, I'll have to go look that one up!

Just kidding about the boys. I love them. Sometimes they're just...boys!

Victor - if/when they get you crazy with their antics/running/yelping, etc. stop and say a prayer of thanks that they're healthy, happy, growing boys. We, who are parents of healthy kids, are so fortunate.

I'm in total agreement Pirl. My son is hanndicapped and has a seizure disorder, but he is very healthy considering he has seizures every day of his life. I have seen others like him who aren't as lucky.

Very true, pirl and pixie. I think about that all the time.

Yeah, Victor! I believe the title of this thread has to do with poo-poo not pp.

You are too cute, Dave!

Potty talk is potty talk.

Thanks Pirl!
Victor, I love it when you talk potty!

This is just funny, funny and I don't even stutter.

Dave, I get it from my 5 year old. It's his preferred language.

My 7 year old just asked me to spell "I cup" Then asked what the f word meant because a kid on the bus used it. Conversation time.

Oh boy! I have had those moments a few times already.

Already? With your 5 year old?

Jack's granddaughter was only 6 when the 12 year old girls on the school bus told her how to keep a boy happy! It certainly had us adults gasping!

Yes! It's the daycare. At Christmas time I said "Oh, that decoration fell down again!" My five year old, Paul, replied, "Of f---!" We had a talk. It's difficult when part of you wants to remain calm to downplay it, part is in shock and part wants to crack up. The best part of that incident was when I asked what he said, he knew it was not a nice word and proceeded to strategically change it. He said "Fug?". I said "No that wasn't it". Then he said "Frog?" Pretty funny in retrospect.

Pirl, I've been hearing storied like that more and more. There was a story on the morning radio news the other day that sex on the school bus is becoming more and more common! Crazy.

Too scary! Certainly the perspectives of so many people changed back in the 90's.

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It is very strange what some girl's are using their new more "liberated" freedom to do. It's like the taboos about sex are gone but they are still trying to please boys. The combination is scarey.
Don't get me wrong. I coinsider myself a feminist. But what's going on has nothing to do with empowerment.

Dave is right.
Many young women confuse sexual allure with REAL power. The popular media, desperate for an audience, increasingly turns to more graphic depictions of violence. Meanwhile, the internet has made pornography mainstream. And female empowerment has been twisted into being a sexual object! See MTV's Spring Break shows.

At the same time, current diet trends have led to many girls entering puberty prematurely - so sexuality is awakened - with even less social maturity.

Increasingly, 'hooking up' is the objective (basically a 'one-night-stand') for both boys and girls - but the emphasis on sexual responsibility is missing. Meanwhile, Brittany Spears - the role model for a generation of teeny-boppers - has done a major meltdown before the age of 25.

Call me a cynic - but I think that virtue is hard to put a price on - literally. There is no profit margin in it. But you can always make money on vice. And in a culture that demands ever increasing economic growth - eventually vice is what gets sold to the public. No wonder little kids are picking up on adult themes - they are everywhere. Just watch the ads on tv.

For the record, I am a humanist feminist - that is, I see both men and women are exploited. For an interesting read on how modern definitions of masculinity lead to the exploitation of men read "Masculinities" by Robert Connell.

sorry about the rant . . . .

"Actions speak louder than words" and Britney Spears actions have shown she's no role model!

Thanks goodness neither of my daughters went through that adoration of celebrity bit. (Neither did I for that matter - I could never understand why my friends went ga ga over the Monkeys . . .)

The closest thing to have that kind of influence was Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady. I saw it when I was 9, and I realized I could change my life . . . What is there to inspire young people today?

All this is true but the influence of peers is even stronger than the direct influence of media, the internet and celebrities. Maybe it's a result of trickle down, but the girls are hearing from their friends that they will not be cool or popular if they don't do such and such to the boys. When I first heard about 'rainbow parties' a few years ago I was shocked. Children are sexualized in so many ways. And the seeming explosion of pedophilia is related as well. It's so easy now for these low-lifes to share photos and videos via the net. But parents are a major problem too! They are permitting their daughters to dress like sluts at earlier and earlier ages. Why? Because their friends are doing it. Parents these days have completely surrendered their authority / responsibility when their kids reach middle school! Believe me, if I had a daughter, she would not be dressing like that, period. Similarly, both my wife and I will have the same approach with our sons. They need to know how to treat girls, despite what their friends might be telling them. Way too many parents just throw up their hands. Then when something happens you see them crying and blaming everyone but themselves.

I'm with you Victorgardener - I have two daughters - and neither have dressed like sluts. What are parents afraid of?