Guess again

HA ha... nooo. Nor Festuca x myopicus 'Blind Boy'

Doh! Beaten by three minutes!

scott

I was assuming it would be a US native species . . .

Resin

LOL you guys! I'm going to let someone else have a go at this and get out of the limelight.

Ernie


P.s. Festuca x myopicus 'Blind Boy' = very creative!

Now I see what happens when I go hang out in the PlantFiles....Homo sapiens var. mocherifolius makes an appearance.

Touché, Claypot.

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This message was edited Feb 11, 2007 7:30 AM

Okay, now I'm loster than when I guessed Skimmia. . . I missed something. O well. :)

V V: I didn't mean to nick you, Festuca 'x' for the gen x'ers impatience, and the cultivar because there's no pictures in Plantfiles for the Festuca you picked.

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This was too much fun to let lay dormant any longer. So in the spirit of fun, I submit the following plant.

Regards,
Ernie

Viburnum dentatum

Resin

Correct genus but I wouldn't throw out something that common with rabid Viburnumites hanging around here.

Ernie

The relatively small leaves and fat little terminal bud makes me think of Viburnum rafinesquianum, woefully underrepresented here.

The curled over and nibbled foliage reminds me of the oblique leaf roller, not a stranger to the Valley.

Those small leaves do remind of V. rafinesquianum but this plant is not a citizen of the U.S.A. I don't know much about bugs so I'll take your word for it.

Ernie

Maybe I haven't become acquainted with this little vixen?

The only other one I have (and I only have one, and it is small) is V. farreri. I remember it having more elongate leaves. Could this be 'Nanum'?

The oblique leaf roller larvae become GDLBM. Ask any entomologist.

The vixen in question flowers in May and grows to 2.5 meters. GDLBM: now you have me stumped.

Regards,
Ernie

Gee, a viburnum that flowers in May and reaches 8'? Can't be too many of those...

Time to wag: Viburnum phlebotrichum

Vv,

You got it! How true, most viburnum fall into that category but it was just a way say that V. f. 'Nanum' was incorrect and to rule out any early or late flowering models. So, are you growing it? The flowers on it look quite nice, at least in the pictures. Might have a future for gardens?


Ernie

Ernie,

where did you come across that one?

Scott

Scott,

It's at the Dawes on the viburnum/spirea hill just past the hollies. If you remember where the V. koreanum is, it should be close by.

Ernie

I'll definitely look for it next time I'm there. I have been a bit remiss about that section of Dawes. I think there is much I need to see there.

Scott

Scott took the words right out of my keyboard; where's your picture from?

Don't have this plant, and can't say that I've ever seen it in person. Since it is similar to Viburnum setigerum, which I really like, it is one I'd give a go if I was to come across it.

The descriptions I've read (Krüssmann; Kenyon) seem to relegate it to a "not so worthy" status, i.e., small and few flowered.

OK, Dawes it is. There's an arboretum I haven't been to in several months of Sundays. It is time to do a viburnum collection evaluation there.

Vv,

The Dawes has the best collection of viburnums that I've seen, partly because they're mainly < 10 years old. I like to see what plants do in their youth before they get large and hairy. I'll post one more from there to whet the appetite. If you can time it right, you ought to check out all of the new magnolias that they've been planting behind that big 'White Tigress' and along the open field. I think that this spring will be the first decent year to see them flower. While I have some mental horsepower hanging around, anyone familiar with Magnolia 'Wada's Memory' and M. kobus 'Nana Compacta'? These seem like they would hold some potential but have obviously been around for a while with out catching on. Are the victims of being slower to make flowers?

Thanks,
Ernie

edited to change name to Magnolia kobus 'Nana Compacta'

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No fair; it's someone else's turn. Is that a Viburnum carlesii 'Compactum'? Or is that too pedestrian?

Now you've stoked the fire. Makes me want to go up there to Nerkahi in the snow, like I used to every January during the CENTS show. The good old days...

Bernheim has/had the potential for a much better collection, when they got a slew of Viburnum species and clones to trial and evaluate around 2001. Then Cappiello headed off to Yew Dell, and the follow-through with these plants was less than inspiring. I don't get there as often as I should (being 20 minutes from work); maybe a new leaf to turn over in 2007.

I can speak to 'Wada's Memory'; new thread?

Vv,

Maybe Kevin, Scott or Resin will pin this one down. The Bernheim does have a good collection just north of the visitor's center, in the little hill turn around area and then towards the back up the hill a ways by the stone building. I guess I like the Dawes because there all together and my short attention span doesn't suffer as much going from one area to the next. I would be happy to hear you in another thread about 'Wada's Memory'


Regards,
Ernie

Time to resurrect this one . . .

What's the shrub shown in this old botanical illustration?

Resin

Oh, I think that's the now-extinct Tree that pukes Rams? (Treeus pukus ramus)
Mike


This message was edited Feb 21, 2007 8:59 AM

Not extinct, an important, widely grown plant . . . :-)

Accompanying description:

It's a shrub??? I thought that the plant was herbaceous? Wow.
Mike
(p.s. I'm wearing this plant)

Depends on the species "39 species of annual or perennial herbs, subshrubs, shrubs and small trees"

Resin

I'll guess - Gossypium arboreum?

That'll do nicely! The original drawing (from Mandeville, 1350) doesn't specify which species of Gossypium, so the genus is enough

Resin

Someone else's drawing of a cotton plant . . .

Back in those days, they couldn't get their imagination round the idea of fibres coming from anything other than sheep . . . so if a fibre came from a plant, it had to be a sheep-bearing plant

A little off thread, but there's an interesting book "Women's Work - the first 20,000 years" by Elizabeth Wayland Barber about the early history of textiles. That's where I found out that the Venus de Milo was probably originally holding a spindle, and that in ancient Egyptian times, men did the laundry (in the river - they dealt with the crocodiles).

I'm not really qualified to post a follow up plant for id - Resin, do you have another? Peg