Oh, my that 'Katrien Bonte' is to die for! If the cuttings I am growing in my atrium do well this year I will have to look for that one. I have several places I want to try growing them in pots and the ground. They will freeze in the winter but if they do really well, I can always get cuttings before the first freeze. One of the cuttings is already about 2ft tall and doing very well ... almost time to put it into a larger pot.
Tammie
What's the best variegated brug?
I have Snowbank, Maya, Miner's Claim and just bought a very small cutting of Jamie. Snowbank's foliage is gorgeous, but I found that the white burns easily. Thank goodness it's in a pot because it was all over the east side of the house this past summer. It ended up in the shadehouse where it got only 1 or 2 early, early morning sun. I was over protective with my Miner's Claim and kept it in the shadehouse all summer. I plan to move it to a brighter location this spring. Maya is able to take morning sun and even some late afternoon sun and heat without burning so it gets my vote.
Gary had great pics of Jamie as I recall. I bet he would post them if he ever gets in from his garden! Poor guy, he is suffering so from an abundance of winter PINK blooms. LOL
Azreno, it is my experience the best way to get standards is to grow seedlings or wait till a brug puts out a sucker. Suckers can come from the roots, probably from nodes under the dirt or from low on a bush or standard. You may have to wait a season or 2 to get a nice one. I find I get them when I keep my brug in food and a large pot or better still in the ground. I use Epsom salts and am a bit convinced that helps cause suckering.
I guess you could cut off your Y, then it would grow up more before it Ys again I think. You may not get a straight trunk though. I have never tried that so I really do not know. When they Y, they Y it seems. I think it is in their genes. I find ones from the same pod all seem to Y at the same time though I have not really taken careful notice on that.
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Kell: Thanks so much for that link showing how to propogate these things! What great information!
I had no idea these things got so large! Do they need to be staked to keep from getting top heavy with all those blooms?
Lin
They can get HUGE! They are trees in warmer zones.
I found a page on 'Katrien Bonte' http://www.pepinierefleursdusud.com/fichesplantes/brugmansias/brugmansiakatrienbonte.html
Now to translate it on google. I really want to know where this sport came from.
Thanks, Kell!
Lynn, Kell is right about the suckers making the best trees. They are tall and straight and unmistakable. Those can be cut off and used to create a standard easily, but you do need to make sure that no branches sprout on the trunk for a few years anyway. I'm still rubbing off new branches from time to time from the trunk of my Pink Beauty.
Lin, these trees can get up to around 20-30 feet here where it does not freeze. They do not need to be staked, but proper pruning will help to keep the branches from breaking. I lost quite a few branches in the last bout of high winds we had recently. Here is a picture of what happens when the blooms make the branch too heavy.
Kell, Brad is fluent in German and can probably tell you if he knows.
I translated it on google, it is French. I wonder if he knows from which brug it came from. Jamie came from CG.
That picture is amazing, Clare. I wonder how many PINK flowers you have on it. TONS!!! You have tons on the ground too! Just amazing.
Kell, it looks like it came from a B. suaveolens, judging by the flower, or a B. suaveolens hybrid. Perhaps it is a sport of a Kirchner-Abel seedling?
Clare,
Your Snowbanks leaves are to die for!!! Another to agg to my list. At least I have the room to move the pots around.Brad your german burg is beautiful. I got one of your brugs last spring form E bay. It's doing great too
Mickey
I'll just jump in here. I have Jamie, and she is wonderful. I received a small rooted cutting last spring. Let's just say she grows like wildfire. I have never had any problems with any type of bugs with her. She took direct NC sun and didn't skip a beat. She smells heavenly. My vote is for Jamie. Here is a picture of her first flush.
Sigh.
Just keeping my fingers crossed that I will be able to see one
bloom half as pretty as those you all have shared.
I have many small plants in one gallon containers just counting
down the days until planting time. We live in Northeastern Oklahoma,
and I've always been under the impression that one had to bring
Brugs in for the winter, yet a lady in town leaves hers out in the
wide open every year.
I think I'll try a few outdoors this year, but take cuttings just in case.
:-)
Thanks, Mickey! It's too bad the trash is in the background! Ha! Here's a better one:-D
That's a beautiful brug, Melanie!
Here's another 'Maya' with B. suaveolens 'variegata' on the left from 2004. Sorry the pic is a bit out of focus.
B. suaveolens 'variegata' sure was pretty. Too bad it's gone.
The leaves don't stay as nice, I think.
Melanie, your Jamie looks awesome, so glad for you!
She's a keeper!
Thank you Kell, yes quite a bit peachy indeed, lol.
Lynn..yes ..Miners Claim was weak with me..I lost two ofthem... perhaps they knew I didn't really like yellow on leaves...it always makes me think they are sickly..
Maya..is always strong and cooperative..and it is lovely..my new..almost two month old is a sweet thing... pretty and healthy.. [ PICTURED ]
SnowBank is perhaps myfavorite though...I had one for3-4 years...always healthy..and strong...till the day it keeled over... a victem of sudden adolescent death syndrome...perhaps..
Clare.. lovely pictures as always..and spectacular plants... OH..the broken standard... lovely even damaged... you're a victem of your own success there..
Melanie..Jamie is grand.. the best variegateds flower it seems.. [ If it was only a blush pink.. eh Kell ] I'll have to get one along with snowbanks replacement..
OK Kell you have Jamie then... where might be a good bet for getting ...Jamie and SnowBank.... you said yours was from CG..is that Country Gardens...they don't list them in the catalog....yet.. guess I'll have to wait from there..
I Love all the variegateds... for a short time only variegated plants would make it as part of the limited space on the roof...but there was so much undenyable beauty..and I found Plumerias...and with no variegated plumerias back then .... I had to just get the others... guess I'll vote for Maya for her strength....although My heart is a captive of SnowBank.. Gordon
Gordon, I'm not Kell, but she won't mind if I answer your question. CG is Charles Grimaldi...Maya is a sport of Charles Grimaldi.
For what it's worth, Maya is one of the best bloomers here in the hot, humid deep south. However, the cats love her here, too.
Snowbank doesn't like it here. Mine dropped one leaf for every leaf she grew. I gave her away to somebody with more patience than I have.
I got Jaimie this past summer. It is a real performer here. It was bothered less with insects and cats than any brug I've had (and that must be close to 500 by now). It blooms in flushes and they are frequent. It also has a lovely scent. It's a little stubborn to root, though. What is odd to me is that Charles Grimaldi refused to bloom very much for me. It does great for everyone else.
I got Peaches and Cream near the end of summer. It's a pretty one, too, but looks like the cats like her, too.
Asreno, I think I vote for Jaimie because of her great performance. Of course the difference here and in Arizona is that we are extremely humid and Arizona is extremely dry, so our experiences will surely be different.
Kay
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Such a cool thread! Wow Clare, your pics are so pretty!
I am crazy over verigated anything.. LOL Maya was my first.. Just love her, but I killed the parent plant and the sucker is still small. I just got 3 new ones that are still tiny.. Jamie, Axel Rose and Sunsport... I'm gonna have to get Snowbank.. she is awesome!
Melanie that is a beautiful picture of Jamie! Now I'm jazzed.
Now Sunsport is green on green isn't it like Axel Rose? Gosh so many, what fun!
Oh Gordon, I wish my Jamie were bigger I would send you a piece when I send you the other brug. I can send you a piece of Snowbank. Oh I am not allowed to, am I. Hmmmmmmmmmm. I saw some 4 inch pots of them last summer at a nursery here, I bet I will see them again in time to send you one if you can't find it. I should go out back and look at mine, we had a bad freeze here and I never went back to see how it did.
Clare that pic of yours of Snowbank is selling a ton of them. LOL. How could you not want that one looking at yours.
I am not sure Maya is a sport of CG, I would say no by looking at the flower. But what do I know? LOL Is it, Kay or did you misspeak thinking of Jamie?
I do recall that Jamie was a sport of CG. CG has Frosty as a parent which accounts for those Frosty like blooms on Jamie. I hardly if ever see yellow suav blooms. In fact the only one I can recall this second is a great one that Gretchen grew out from seeds I believe that were from JT a couple of years ago. Anyone remember others?
OH.. there is a Maya plant for sale on e-bay...and only $70 ..fromBangkok
well...how could they you might ask..wll it's not a Mayalookingplant..although it bears the name..It's just about alll white...
Gordon
Here is my baby snowbank,
Jan
And my sunset/maya baby. I'll have to find out what's been chewing on the leaves. I can't see any critters on them right now.
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Here they are with my other new babies this year.
Gordon, I think that Maya Plumie is too cool.. I'd love to have that one! I have a couple of baby Plumies, (Thank you PudgyMudPies) but I'm not that good with them cause Brugs are my true love.
Jan I think your baby Snowbank is darling! I enjoy looking at your group of "babiez" on this freezing cold windy morning. I can hardly wait for my lil group to get that big.
When I had problems with the bottom leaves being chewed.. I found slugs.. Might check under the pots.. they are so sneaky!
Thanks for the tips on standards! That is going to come in very handy....I will try and coerce some suckering :-)
Thanks so much for all the response everyone! And all the great pictures and information. I think I'll have to take Snowbank off the list until a later date when I have shadier confines for it maybe and put Jamie on it, so Jamie and Maya are ones for me :-)
Gordon, you are such a gentleman. Thank you so much for your kind comments. You might be able to get a 'Snowbank' here: http://davesgarden.com/ps/go/53704/ or here: http://www.plantdelights.com/Catalog/Current/Detail/05088.html Hey Gordon, I love variegated ones too. Check out this pic below. I spent $150 for it! Your pics are so great. They do have some amazing variegated plumerias in Thailand. Soon, there will be many more here.
Hi Kay! It's nice to see you here. Long time no see! I think CG stands for Country Gardens here, and I agree with Kell that there is no way that 'Maya' can be a sport of 'Charles Grimaldi' due to the flowers being so different. A sport always bears the same flowers as the parent plant but with different leaves.
Thanks, Joyce! Plumies are even easier to care for than plumies so you can't go wrong with them.
Thanks, Kell! LOL! I hope your plants are all right after that freeze! Yikes! I hate the cold...
Nice pics, Jan!
Gordon, check out these variegated plumies that my friend Kukiat took a picture of at a nursery in Bangkok.
Clair,
I love the photos of the Brugs at the BK Market. How old is the standard that you have in the photo?
AZReno, what Brugs do you have now? I have a few friends that are just getting into Brugs here. Do you put your in the ground? I have tons of space but I think it gets too cold up here to put them in the ground.I still have much to learn.
Mickey
Cave Creek,Az
Hi Mickey! I'm just a beginner, too, tons to learn but I endeavor :-) Plan to get some in the ground this spring. How cold do you get there?
Hi Clare! Good to see you, too.
Hi Kell! You, too!
Yep, I think you are both right. I was thinking of Jaimie when I said it was a sport of CG.
Maya is a sport of KBS.
Kay
AzReno,
Hi, I think this year so far we've gotten to 26. I'm about 20 degrees colder than Masa. My Plumeria friend in Mese can put hers in the ground. No way can I....
Mickey
We've been down to 28 here already, are you sure you're 20 degrees colder? That doesn't sound quite right. I have plumeria I plan to plant in the ground this spring, too :-) Since you have the space you should do a nice greenhouse, I have no doubt you could already fill it LOL
Clare that is my Snowbank picture :) I keep saying I'm going to toss it out because it hasn't done much for me since I've taken that picture. Of course, it's in the garage being wintered over once again. This is the last year for it.
Datdog... great picture of Snowbank.. about the prettiest of her I've seen.. I can see how just your picture was enough to spur Clare to getting one. if you are looking to dispatch yours after this year.. let me know and we'll cut it up and unleash it's growing potential.....Gordon
Okay, now that I have been bitten by brugmania (yes, brug-mania), these variegated ones have me drooling. I've always liked variegated things anyway, but these are outstanding. I don't live in an area where I've ever even seen a brug in the nurseries, so I have to rely on people sharing or ordering online to get them. Where might I find a good healthy variegated brug online?
Kbaumle, Clare posted some possible good leads in the links on the 9th post up.
Oh Gordon, you like to live dangerously. LOL!! Hey, I would do just about anything for that Maya from Bangkok. What a deal $70. I need a friend with an import license. LOL. Clare, we need to go over and pick one out for ourselves.
I just knew that pic was one of yours Kristi's. You always post the best pictures.
I wonder why Snowbank seems to like the West coast, maybe the cooler nights. Here is the base of one my friend is growing that is huge. I have shots of the top but the sun was bright so it is hard to see the tree. It is in full sun too and just is so happy.
Hi Mickey, those are actually plumerias at the Bangkok market. That Pink Beauty standard was planted in 2002.
Thanks, Kristi, for letting me know that that is your picture and your brug. I just marked it to give you proper credit in the future. I was so inspired by it and love it to this day.
LOL, Kell;-) I agree! An import license is so easy to get, but I have one that you can use anytime. My 'Snowbank' and a 'Maya' are both in full sun here and don't get burned either. Kell, I gave my two HG's away yesterday to my Farm Supply guy. He wants to make a hedge out of brugs in his yard. I also gave him a 'Pink Favorite' and 'Milk 'n Honey.' It is so windy here today. The wind just shreds the leaves of all my brugs when it gets like this.
Thanks, Kell. Somehow, I missed that!