I had read some things about Miner's Claim not being so grand (even before the recent thread) and I know variegated plants can be weak as far as stress is concerned, so I'm wondering what the best ones are, particularly which ones handle stress (especially heat) very well. I don't have one but when I do get one, I want to make sure I don't get some weakling that can't take what AZ has to offer. So let me have 'em, and post a pic please!
What's the best variegated brug?
My two favorites are 'Snowbank' and 'Maya.' I find that the leaves of 'Maya' get huge when grown in full shade. Surprisingly, it flowers fine in full shade. Here is 'Maya' in the corner.
Here is 'Snowbank':
The only problem with the variegated ones, in my view, is that the catepillars love them and munch the leaves so badly.
Here's a better picture of 'Snowbank.' 'Snowbank' is probably the prettiest one of them all in my view, but 'Miner's Claim' is pretty also. Brad has a different one from Germany which is gorgeous. Maybe he'll see this and post a pic of it.
This is an old picture of a variegated Suaveolens white. I don't have this one anymore. It may have gotten SB and been tossed.
Here is 'Maya' again in the corner:
Here is a better pic of the one in the corner. You can see the leaves have been munched on.
Thanks for the response Clare! I have to say that picture of 'Snowbank' really is amazing. And they all look so hearty and healthy, too. I think I haven't seen a whole of the variegated ones looking strong like you see the others looking. Those are inspiring!
I too love Maya but lost her this year and haven't found a replacement yet. I do have snowbank which I like also and just got another one called Sunset which is small but doing well.
Jan...
I like Maya dont have a pic but i do have a small one it does well in the heat to
Thanks, Lynn. I find that they do better with part sun or filtered sun here.
Jan, I could be mistaken, but I think 'Sunset' is the same as 'Maya'; isn't it? One of the experts here will surely know.
Oh Sure Paul, you withut a pic?
So Maya seems to be making people happy. Since they have to be sheltered here for most of the day in summer, I'd love to hear more about these little ones. Not that a taller one can't be kept small, though huh. How tall would a Maya or Snowbank get if grown in the ground? My friend Fish_Knees has a brug growing in the ground in her very sheltered yard and it's HUGE!
Clare, took the words right out of my mouth! LOL About the sun I mean :-)
Hey Az those 2 Thalia seeds i got from you sprouted
Hey, that's way cool! Great job Paul!
Hi Clare,
I'll have to explore the Sunset/Mayo relationship. This is my first year with brugs so I am learning lots.
Lynn, that 'Maya' is planted in the ground in the first picture of my gingers with my 'Maya.' The second picture (Snowbank) and the third picture (Maya) show the trees newly planted in the ground. I have found that the leaves become dwarfed/stunted if the root system gets too rootbound. They don't do well with crowded roots so you have to be prepared to eventually use a 25- to 30-gallon container unless you are willing to root prune annually or bi-annually. Once in the ground, they want to be trees -- at least in this zone and probably in your zone too with some protection. Fortunately, 'Snowbank' is a slow grower so it might take a few years to get to the 25-gallon container.
This message was edited Jan 4, 2007 11:52 AM
I'd really love to be growing my brugs in the ground, it's really hard to grow them in pots here, you just about gotta move 'em inside in the summer :-( I can plant a couple this year, then more as my trees grow in to provide shelter, but I just don't have room for huge brug trees. I'm finding I really like the look of the standards....do you guys start those from new cuttings every year or just keep it trimmed to a nice # of nodes?
Clare you have some beautiful photos of you plants. Snowbank's foilage is georgous.
Lynn, Maya would be my suggestion as well. I grow mine in part shade and it does wonderful. Another vari brug I haven't heard mentioned is "Jamie". I have heard a lot of buzz going around about it. I recieved mine this past summer but won't see results till this coming summer.
No, we haven't heard any input on Jamie yet......another Maya vote!
Hi Dott! Thanks for popping in :-)
There is also Axel Rose and Peaches N Cream. I grew P&C from cuttings in spring and they put out maybe two sets of leaves before frost. My Maya just took off from a cutting so my vote goes with Maya too. I don't have Axel Rose but I have seen it and it is pretty. I can't say much about its growth tho. Im sure someone grows it that can chime in.
Caren
I have Axel Rose From Shriley but its still very small
Hi Caren! That does sound like a sad little brug- the P&C....another Maya!
Says Paul with no pics :-)
theres also Klerx' from o4
I think Axel Rose is definitely worth another mention, I have a small one but she bloomed like crazy. The foliage is really pretty too. Shouldn't be long, Paul, til you get some blooms. I had a Maya, was beautiful, but I lost her when I was sick the year before. I would definitely like to replace her.
Clare, your pictures are so nice, makes me get variegated fever all over again.
AZ, I think you will need to pick more than one, lol.
Another pic, maybe you can see the variegation better, it is subtle, but elegant.
Hi All You Brug People! I am new to Brugs .... bought my first one about 3 years ago through a mail order catalog ... I think it's called 'Equador Pink' .... I kept it in a pot for the first 2 years and just planted it in the ground last spring. It had 2 flowers on it a couple of weeks ago and then nothing. I have a small 'Maya' that I got in my first trade here on DG, along with another small one labeled yellow/gold Brug. I am waiting a couple of months before planting them in the yard! The Equ. Pink in the yard is on the west side of the house and gets late afternoon sun. I am thinking I should move it so it gets more sun during the day. Maybe it will bloom better in more sun? The two I got in trades are doing well in my screened pool enclosure for the time being. I'm trying to decide on a good location for them in the yard.
Thanks for all the great info on these plants.
Clare - Your yard and plants are Beautiful!
Lin
LOL I may need more than one. Maya has a lot of backers for her but I still just love the 'snowbank' photo up top, it's just fabulous.
Clare your photos are just great. All so pretty! I think Maya is easy too. Grows well. I have had no trouble with Snowbank either and I abuse her. I have her in a 2 gallon pot for 2 or 3 years so she is stunted. I think I will plant her in the ground this year. She does OK outside in winter too. A guy I know here has a Snowbank that is as tall as his house, it is just huge and gorgeous.
I just got Jamie so I have no comment on her. I see Miner's Claim a lot in nurseries and I love the variegation, the flowers look like Frosty.
I am thinking Maya is not much longer for my world. I have had it for a long, long time. I find she loses some of her variegation as she ages.
PS Lin, WELCOME to our brug world. We all are a bit nuts over them. LOL
And you are so right Clare, cats just love Maya! A few years ago, I planted this one in the ground the next day it was almost totally eaten alive.
This message was edited Jan 4, 2007 2:42 PM
Lin i am most likely the onely sane person on this site Paul
Thanks so much Dott, Jackie, Lin, and Kell!
Lin, most of my brugs are in the ground, and out of all of them, EP is the most sensitive to cold. It is the only one in which I have a little branch dieback in winter. It tends to put out blooms in cycles, as all B. versicolors do, but only when the weather is warm. Mine is in full sun, but I have some versicolors in part sun, and they do fine too. Here is a pic of EP to the left of Pink Beauty.
Kell, your brug got munched! Wow!
Lynn, about your standard question: just choose the straightest cutting or prune to make a straight cutting and plant that and keep new branches from coming in on the lower part by pruning them off or wiping them off when they are young. In time, you'll have a standard like this. Each year, the trunk gets wider and bigger.
This message was edited Jan 4, 2007 3:30 PM
Hi Clare-- Here is a pic of my German one, 'Katrien Bonte' my source said it is a Anne-Kirchner-Abel variety she sells and that it originated in Belgium a few years back. It is a decent flowerer, but the leaves don't get all that big and I grew mine in the shade. It is similar to Miner's Claim in appearance.
This message was edited Jan 4, 2007 6:30 PM
This is the picture that first had me hooked on 'Snowbank.' I don't know whom to give credit to for the picture, and I apologize for that, but I am sure it is someone on this forum.
Very pretty, Brad! Thanks for posting it! I noticed that my leaves stay very small when the plant is rootbound in a container, but they get huge when the tree is planted in the ground. You might try planting yours in the ground at your new place to see if the leaves get any bigger. Your tree will probably take off, and then you'll have lots of cuttings to distribute to friends;-)
My Snowbank has tiny leaves from being stunted in its container. I can't wait to get it in the ground!
Lin here is a thread on making a standard. It is easy just like Clare said! Clare, your standard is gorgeous.
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/554205/
Brad your 'Katrien Bonte' is so pretty, great leaves. I wonder what it is a sport of. Great pic of Snowbank, Clare. What flowers! I wonder if that is one of Kristi's.
Jackie, your Axel Rose looks like it is turning a deeper peach color. Did it? Very pretty brug!
So now with Jamie, we have PINK, peach (possibly cream), white and yellow flowers on variegates. Lots of fun!
Oh, that german one is very nice! Thanks everyone for putting in your 2 cents here :-)
Paul is not sane.........
So once I have a standard, I can keep it nice and neat by regular pruning and it just gets a bigger trunk, that's probably good what with our monsoon storms a bigger trunk can only help!
Clare, that snowbank pic really is amazing.....and now I can't take my eyes off the german one either LOL
Kell, can't wait til you start posting pics of Jamie in the spring....hint, hint
That's very nice! I was looking at one of my rooted cuttings that I thought I would get a standard from very soon but I just checked it out and it has y'ed and has a tiny bud, it's only 6" tall! So how do I prevent them from y'ing? I'll check out that thread Kell, I'm sure my answer is already there :-) Thanks!