Hmm.....I could of sworn I was a female. I'm going to have to go look again....hold it for a minute......yep, just checked, I am a female. You need to add me into your little party ;~p
Ethical question...feeding Hawk
Well no offense meant to Stelco ... but I don't even know him!!! So nope, not me, I'm not on the gaga list of women! Besides, I have the worlds Sweetest husband. He is NOT a gardener but he loves me and enjoys my enjoyment of the gardening and thats all that counts!
Equilibrium
Oct 02, 2007
Quoting:
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice refuge- NOT. I feel really sorry for you, it didn't have to be that way. I've heard of this happening once before. Not that you would have known but there are actually extremely dedicated raptor rehabbers out there who have driven several states over to pick up a bird and I once stuck a bird on a plane to get it to someone in Georgia who could provide care for it. Only cost me a hundred bucks and a friend of mine had an approved air freight shipping container. Next time, try calling around to vets and go online to look for raptor rehabbers or probably any actual wildlife rehabber might be able to steer you in the right direction. Sad that we are forced to actually ask a "refuge" what they're going to do with a bird that's an indigenous species that's not on an endangered or threatened species list if it's brought in. That's the second refuge I've heard of in the past 20 years that did that. Rather unorthodox wouldn't you say? Pathetic, absolutely pathetic.
I had to participate in the demise of a Cooper's hawk a few years ago, I was distraught. Found it in my yard with a broken wing. I managed to catch it & put it in a box & took it to a refuge, but since it was no longer on the endangered list, they killed it.
Oh, I had no idea. Now I feel even worse. I cried for days because I knew I'd probably caused it pain just by wrestling it into a box.
Equilibrium
Oct 02, 2007
Well, I would have cried too if that had happened to me. It's not your fault. The difference between you and me is that I would have told them to give me the bird back because I've been around long enough to know that not all refuges subscribe to that practice. They should change their name to something that let's everyone know that all they provide care for would be threatened and endangered species. It's a given that the vast majority of wildlife rehabbers only provide care for indigenous species (don't bring in a cat or an English house sparrow and expect a refuge to fix it up) but there's really something wrong with a "refuge" that takes the bird away from you like that and kills a raptor because it's not on a threatened or endangered list any longer.
Summerkid.... i know Kankakee is a bit south... but there is a good rehabber right in Glen Ellyn (DuPage County)
DH and I were just there today. They have awesome raptors and owls and other creatures in back. the ones they can't set free, live out their lives there. I saw a Golden and Bald Eagle today.... talk about majestic creatures.
We had to take in a cute lil Yellow Headed King *something* today that got stuck in one of those sticky fly traps in our garage. It was the cutest lil bugger.... they were gonna clean'im up and then set it free when it was ready to go.
OH.. here is their site
http://www.willowbrookwildlife.org/
Equilibrium
Oct 02, 2007
Nice site tcs!