Sylvia I'm assuming you can--the seeds are pretty large. It just "popped up" in my yard. It's an annual so I'd hold off up there until next spring. It germinated for me about mid-June to July 1st time frame. Will add your name to the list. =)
If you wait that plant should put out a lot of seed Sylvia. It does down here. The Senna I'm talking about now.
I just looked up at my last post--golly, gee....I didn't know it was possible to make that many typo's in just 2 lines. ;)
Gardening with Texas Native Plants & Wildflowers, part 12.
Sylvia...I bought both of my sennas when they were tiny....this Spring....and now they are bushy little trees...lol..blooming their heads off right now. Its been blooming for a while now...both of them...I haven't seen any seeds yet tho...or perhaps I'm just not looking closely enough.. :)
Melanie
Anyone got any, or can take a picture of what frostweed seeds look like? I've googled and can't find them--need to know what I'm looking at here in order to save them. Are they kinda long and thin like maybe, say a skinny zinnia?
Seedlings or seeds Debbie?
Debbie, the look like tiny sunflower seeds and they are buried deep in the seed cup.
I will try to take a picture of them for you, I have some cleaned up from last year.
Seeds Sheila. Thanks Josephine. I take it they are pretty darn small--lol--I'm having trouble seeing them with my 275 Walgreens reading glasses. Ahhhh, youth is wasted on the young, no?
Debbie your readers are 2.75? I didnt know they go that high. I just jumped from 1.50 to 1.75 and at work I use the 2.0. I think we need surgery. lol
Thanks Debbie
Melanie where did you purchase your Senna?
Sylvia...I only purchase my plants (well, almost all of them, lol) at a local nursery here in San Antonio. They have a wonderful Texas Natives area...and that is where I found my Senna trees. Its called Rainbow Gardens....and quite a place. They tend to carry those hard to find natives that you can't find anywhere else.
My flowers are so happy from all of the rain! Took this photo of a small section yesterday....look at those smiling faces...lol :)
Melanie
They are lovely Melanie, Congratulations on the flowers and the rain too.
Love your mixture of colors Melanie.
Thanks.... :) What a beautiful and cool morning! Bumblebees are all awake and warmed from the sun...so they've decided to get some breakfast on the sennas, hyssops...and my indigo spires....*sigh* I love Fall.. :)
This is a very interesting plant that Ceejay from Houston gave me at the College Station r.u. this spring.
She thought that it was a Candle tree, cassia alata, but it turned out to be
Bladderpod, Sesbania vesicaria, which is another of the rattle bushes. This one is an annual and grows very fast, this is how tall it got in five months.
This is a close up of the flowers and leaf. I think it is very pretty, and I love the orange color. It is making seed now, so I will have some later on.
Thank you Ceejay!!!
Last night I was "scouting" along FM1097 yesterday evening and found a plant I'd never seen before....growing near some Senna (all growing near a small creek branch). It looked very similar to Senna but had "smooth-shapely" pods...instead of the rect.-shaped
pods like the Senna....also the flowers were a blend of
red to yellow-orange-ish color...(if I remember correctly)
The flowers were still immature...so I expect them to change a bit. The seed pods were still green but plump,...so you can bet I'll be keeping a close eye on them. :~)
Finally had enough time today to try & research what it might be....logged on to DG and first had to review the threads I'm watching.....and lo & behold,....I think I've been given some "assistance" ....just waiting for me to see...could it be that it's Sesbania vesicaria? If so,...I'll just nod my head in appreciation and give thanks.
I always have to smile when these interesting "events" occur...'cause I believe they're no accident...if you know what I mean! I'm going back to that location with my camera shortly,...and return with some photos and get
y'alls opinion! 'Til then, Lee
Oh,...I almost forgot....thank you , Josephine!
Lee, it surely sounds like what you found is Sesbania vesicaria, there is another very similar plant Sesbania herbacea, but the flowers ar yellow, they are both annuals.
That is quite a coincidence, that you found it at the same time I posted mine.
Josephine.
OK,...I've got a pic of what I've found...it sure looks like your S. vesicaria, Josephine. I think it is interesting that I was about to search for an identification and found it immediately with your post! I'd rather be lucky any day!
I'll follow with a seed pod pic.
that's pretty... I don't have one of those.... hint hint *giggle
The green seed pod.
LOL.....Nada,...between Josephine's & these I've found,....I'm sure there will be some seeds with your name own them at the SA Swap!
Check out this little Beautyberry that was growing near the Bladderpods (as well as other interesting plants)
All those berries on a 10" stalk with 2 full leaves....talk about tenacious! These were all in an area about to be developed...right on FM1097 near Willis. I think I'm about to go into "rescue" mode!
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Lee, the leaflets on that plant look so BIG compared to the pic of Josephine's Sesbania plant. Is that just the way the picture was taken or are they as big as they look?
This little "Clitoria-type" flower was near the others...
I didn't see this in the PF....maybe someone will recognize it in this forum....if not,...I'll try the ID Forum.
Josephine you kept seeds to share right? looks great.... Mitch
Hi Linda, I see what you mean...the flower shot was from a small (3-4') plant....and the shot of the pods was from a plant that was 5-6' tall....the angle and close proximity to the flower & pods may have caused the way they look.
My camera was maybe 8" away...fairly close.
Looking at Josephine's pic again,...I see that the flower is positioned so that the shot catches it more from the side.
Here's another pic of the same small plant - different angle....I think it doesn't have the same effect as the "real close" pic. Josephine will be able to compare to hers, I bet.
Lee- that pink one is probably spurred butterfly pea Centrosema virginianum. Look at it in PlantFiles. I'm getting a little low on those seeds---if you can scarf some for me I'd appreciate it and will reimburse you postage or trade you something for them.
Hi Debbie,...I have a Centrosema virginianum growing at home....(in fact,...I think you helped me ID that one a month or two ago) and I do have some seeds I'll send you.
This flower is more compact (half the size , at least),...and is shaped a little different than the examples of C. virginianum in the PF...it has the little "tongue" or "finger" (for loss of a better description) that droops at the bottom of the flower....which may simply be just a variation....OR could be interpreted as a "spur" I guess,... I would be the least likely to know....by far. Here's another angle....not as clear and a little washed out with too much light but gives another perspective.
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sorry Lee
Hey,....I appreciate your input! :~)
I am rather tired...lol
I probably wouldn't recognize a pansy tonite.
Lee, the plant you found is definately Sesbania vesicaria, and yes I will be saving seeds for everyone.
The Pea you found looks more like perennial sweet pea, not a native but adapted plant. Check it out, but I am not sure.
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/42555/
Josephine.
Hmmm...did I tell ya'll about the S. Herbacea that grew wild in my back garden this spring? Soo pretty...and a fast grower! I lost some of it from the brutal heat...but it is making a wonderful comeback and blooming... :) Nice pictures...Lee! :)
Melanie
Thanks Josephine! I looked at the pea file and I'm not sure either,....although it does look very similar!
There were so many different wild flowers/plants in that immediate area... so fascinating....I'm still trying to research some that I had never seen before.
Melanie - I looked at the PF for S. herbacea....what a beautiful flower! Glad that it's makin' a comeback for you! :~)
Thanks Lee... :)
It sounds as tho you've discovered a mini native ecosystem out your way, lol...similar to GD's land. Ya lucky rascal, you. Sounds like a wonderful photo opportunity as well......I actually live on the edge of the Hill Country here...similar to LindaTX8 and Nada's terrain....but darned if I ever get to go out pokin' about and exploring...although, and I'm real excited about this, but my honey and I may be taking a road trip out to Big Bend country a couple of days after the SA RU and that will definitely be interesting in the way of natives along the highways...at least to photograph.. :)
Melanie
To photograph and maybe collect seed...and find-visit new nurseries....I bet it will be a great trip!
No matter where you go in Texas,...there's a diverse selection of plant & animal life....just like the ecosystems they live in....but I know you know this :~)
Guess I'm just bein' a braggin' Texan!
I love the Hill country....my wife was born & raised most of her life in San Antonio, and the Austin area is one of my favorite locations. We have friends & relatives in those areas....and many points in between here & there.
I was born & raised in Houston.I grew up with a family & relatives that loved salt water fishing,...so I've enjoyed many years of frequenting the Gulf Coast from Sabine Pass down to Port Isabel...many fond memories
of that fascinating & entirely different ecosystem along the coast. We were blessed with being able to spend a lot of our lives in the outdoors - fishing, hunting, camping,etc.
My Mother & her family were from East Texas area,
(sounding like I'm doin' a job interview) so,...I've fond memories of that part of Texas as well! :~)
I'm sorry,...I'm goin' on too much....my point was to give an idea of why I love Texas....because it IS so diverse!
I would love to spend a year or three in the Big Bend area to see and experience, firsthand, that ecosystem.
Well,...enough about that! I'm really enjoying studying the different types of plants all around us...as well as meeting new friends....I know,...I've said this before!!
Type to y'all later! Lee
Lee, it is good to see someone so full enthuiasm for Texas flora ans fauna.
I love Texas too, although I wasn't born here, but I have lived in Texas for 43 years, and I just love all the beautiful native plants and wildflowers. They never cease to amaze me.
Josephine.
You're a Texan by choice, Josephine....and that's as good as being a native in my books! :~)
One of my sisters lived in Grapevine,...up near your area,...for several years....and I meant to include the north central and panhandle parts of Texas in my dissertation earlier,...but thought I had gone on long enough....another great area up there as well!
new thread on another forum that someone from here might have ideas for..
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/653165/
I'm more familiar with Sesbania drummondii, which I've seen along creeks and other relatively moist places. I was curious about the S. herbacea (never heard of it before), so I did a search for pics. I found it on one of my favorite central texas sites, as well as the S. drummondii.
http://www.sbs.utexas.edu/bio406d/images/pics/fab/sesbania_herbacea.htm
http://www.sbs.utexas.edu/bio406d/images/pics/fab/sesbania_drummondii.htm
Interesting. I've seen some of the reddish-orange flowering sesbanias in Houston during some of my visits there. But I never ID'd the exact species, because I didn't have my plant books with me at the time. Houston always amazed me, because empty lots could have so many wild plants growing in them. I'd walk around looking at empty lots or else more interested in the "weeds" in people's yards than the cultivated plants.
Linda I do the same thing everywhere I go.
Here is a picture of my Sesbania drummondii blooming now in my yad, it is quite large and very pretty, the picture doesn't do it justice. I love the lacy look and it is nice that it is a perennial.
Can we start a new thread to benefit those of us having to use dial up internet connection (wish we could get DSL out here "in the sticks"....satellite service is too expensive) It's starting to take a long time for this thread to set up! Thanks! Lee
Part 13?? Wow this is one of the best threads I have been part of on here, Josephine please start number 13.