Gardening with Texas Native Plants & Wildflowers, part 12.

OOps sorry I aready posted this one.

I think I should probably call this bed my DG bed. Every plant but 1 came from a fellow DGer. Thank you all for the wonderful gifts of eother plant or seed. Mostly seeds and now look at them. At night you can see the Moonvine'Alba' and during the day out comes purples and yellows flowers from the other plants. the cannas when they start blooming will I think be pink and yellow and red.

calvin

edited to say sorry

This message was edited Sep 14, 2006 5:32 AM

lol - those are not big yet... at my MILs her bush is well over 4 foot high and 6 foot wide - with the seeds from Josephine. I sure would move one or two of them or it will make a fuller bush with the three together like that.

Hi Calvin,
I am with Mitch, two definately need to be moved. But even one maybe too large for that area, it may take over the path in front! They tend to fall over and spread. Did you see the one bush that Frostweed planted at her church? Here is the link....take a deep breath before you look. LOL!!
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/640931/

hey guys, hey I saw the pics at the church. I started the seeds and didn't really do my homework on the plant. thought I would put them in the ground before they out grow the cup/container. I have lost alot of plants this year for that very reason.

I will move 2 of them. Where I don't know, but they will find a new home. Mbe at school or work. hehehe

calvin

Since we are on the subject of Daturas, I thought I would copy this post, because it is so complete and informative, I hope you guys enjoy it.

Clare_CA
Southern California, CA
Zone 10b

Apr 17, 2005
8:14 PM
I compiled this list last year. I thought you might like to see it.

The following was taken directly from the book by Ulrike and Hans-Georg Preissel, Brugmansia and Datura, Angel's Trumpets and Thorn Apples and credit should be given to them for this information.

Datura stramonium (funnel-shaped small flowers with five sharp peaks; flowers are white- to creamy-colored or violet)
Datura stramonium var stramonium
Datura stramonium var stramonium f. stramonium
Datura stramonium var stramonium f. labilis
Datura stramonium var inermis
Datura stramonium var tatula
Datura stramonium var tatula f. tatula (has violet coloring in the center of the flower corolla)
Datura stramonium var tatula f. bernhardii
Datura stramonium var godronii

Datura ferox (five-peak small 2- to 2 1/2-inch flower of yellowish white; the flower usually does not open completely)

Datura quercifolia (oak-like foliage leaves; unremarkable small violet flowers with five short peaks; the flowers do not open completely)

Datura inoxia (flowers measure four inches across, are funnel-shaped, and are pure white; greenish veins end in five longer peaks)

Datura wrightii (flowers measure five inches across and are five to nine inches long; the upper section is usually violet to pale violet and have five peaks)

Datura ceratocaula (10-peak flower with inner sides of white to violet-pink and outersides have a bluish coloring.)

Datura discolor (One of the largest of the datura flowers; ten-peak flower with white upper section and a dark ring-shaped color of pale to dark violet in the center)

Datura metel (flowers are white or yellow or violet to red; fruits have conical humps)
Datura metel var metel (flowers are simple, white and double)
Datura metel var muricata (white flowers)
Datura metel var chlorantha (yellow flowers)
Datura metel var rubra (single flowers)
Datura metel var rubra f. rubra (single violet flowers)
Datura metel var rubra f. sanguinea (single red flowers)
Datura metel var obscura (flowers are single, violet or red)
Datura metel var obscura f. obscura (single violet)
Datura metel var obscura f. atropurpurea (single red)
Datura metel var fastuosa (outer portion of flowers are violet or red; inner portion is white)
Datura metel var fastuosa f. fastuosa (outer portion of flowers is violet)
Datura metel var fastuosa f. malabarica (outer portion is red)

Datura leichhardtii (ten-peaked small inconspicuous yellowish white flower, which do not open completely)
Datura leichhardtii ssp. pruninosa
Datura leichhardtii ssp. leichhardtii


Classification Key:
sec. = sectio, section
ssp. = sub-species
var = varietas, variety
f. = forma, form

Calvin, it is great to have you on this thread, and thank you for posting the pictures, your flower bed looks great, and I can see that you are enjoying it very much.
We look forward to hearing about your gardening adventures.
Josephine.

I will take frog fruit anytime. I finally found a little bit on my land but I would love a LOT more.

I'm thinking the same thing, Nada....its real pretty. But is it easily managable once established?
Melanie

Melanie, if you put Frogfruit in a bed as a groundcover, you will have to trim the edges eventually, it spreads by runners.
Josephine.

Josephine I just saw you picture under the Datura at the church ... what a awsome, awsome site! Mine is just blooming away too it had about 10 or 15 blooms one morning. I sure wish I had planted it in a more prominent place. But all is not lost, I got seeds! lol Can I just put then in the ground?
Sylvia

Thank you Sylvia, I am glad your is doing well too. I would wait till Spring to plant the seeds, but yes, you can start them in the gound if you like.
Josephine.

One plant that I have been trying to grow for a while is Lindheimer's Senna, but for some reason it never did much, but this year, it finally bloomed and I am overjoyed.
Here it is; Isin't she lovely?

And a close up of the flower.

WOW! look at all the buds on that plant! it was well worth waiting for! I love yellow.

If I get good seed I will be glad to save some for you Sylvia, and also for whoever wants it.

Josephine - what a plant... never even heard of it before but wow! Take loads of photos - dont you love those early Fall yellow blooming plants... reminds me the weather will get cool and the leaves yellow and fall off..

Yes, I do love the yellows, my Goldenrod is starting to show color, it won't be long now.

Here too.. and this year they are in mass. I left the Iron weed heads and they look great with the blooms of the goldrod starting.

Great Mitch, you are going to have to show us a picture when they open.

My little Senna trees are also still blooming in my garden, Josephine. They have for a couple of months now. Sooo pretty.. :) I can't wait to see my growing Prairie Flame Sumac change colors this fall for the first time. And that too is blooming with tiny white flowers.. :) Can't wait for October.. :)
Melanie

Yes, the Flameleaf sumac is really pretty, I have one too and it does bloom, but it has never set fruit.

The one I have that bloomed this year did make fruit. I love the fall color in the years it turns out to have the deeper color. Then all the flameleaf sumacs around here are so pretty, not just mine.

Josephine--that plant spits out seeds rather prolifically so I'm sure you will get a good harvest (amount) of seed from it. That is actually one of the plants that got me started gardening and saving seeds. I have a special place in my heart for that plant. =)
Deb

That is good news Debbie.
You know how I told you that the Wildscape was going to have a plant sale?
Well they have decided not to have it, so I hope you won't be too dissappointed.
I did get a plant for you, an Amorpha fruticosa, because I knew you liked that plant.
Josephine.

Well Josephine I can understand why they have decided to cancel it--probably afraid the workers will succomb to the heat. It really hasn't started cooling at all down here, its about what its been (90-94) all summer. I'm hoping this next cool front is strong enough to push thru here too. 85 would be nice for a while; but I can't really complain. Rain has been plentiful and we had few days above 96 this summer. But we've also had no nightime temps below 70--since maybe, ummm April. lol

Yes I do love that plant--let me reimburse you at the RU. I think it will make a wonderful alternative to vitex, don't you think? Thank you for thinking of me.
DJ

You are welcome Debbie.

Ok folks, this little gem is now producing seeds...I've got my first batch drying and will continue to harvest seeds from it for the next 2 weeks, if ya'll would like some, I'll be happy to send them to you.

'Hairy Cluster Vine'
Jacquemonitia tamnifolia
or
Ipomoea tamnifolia

It's in the PlantFiles, I have done a little research and found it native to Al, Ar, Fla, Ga, Il, La, Ms, NC, OH, PA, SC, TN, TX. Some sources say its invasive but I don't really know how an American native plant can be classified as invasive (?) seems its just good for its environment--lol. TX was not one of the states listed. I think only TN. Do your research, if you want some seeds let me know. I'll be happy to send them. My plant doesn't really look that hot but its an annual so I'm only trying to get seed production for next year. I have found the vines to be strongly vining counterclockwise but a maximum length of only 3'. It takes full sun and neglectful watering. I'm thinking a couple in a hanging basket for next year. It's the plant collector in me and it is an American native. Little else will survive the neglect in a hanging mossy wire pot down here that's in the modern nursery trade other than some natives. I only happened to have the one pop up in my garden this year--never seen it before and haven't seen any others since--so it seems not to be an invasive problem here, where we've had plenty of rain.

Here's a link too with better pics:
http://www.missouriplants.com/Bluealt/Jacquemontia_tamnifolia_page.html

Debbie

Debbie,

I just love that one... I would like some seeds when you can. thanks.

Sure thing Renatelynne...got a list started.

I'd like some seed too, Debbie! Thank you for offering

Lee

You are on the list Lee! =)

Thanks Debbie.....what a facinating plant! I don't ever recall having seen one those before!

It would probably be considered a weed by many--but I think it will fill that hanging basket niche in my yard. I'm just so tired of watering un-suited plants twice a day in Aug in hanging baskets. I'm going to give these a week to dry in the house before I get them off to you.

I have never heard of it even... nice plant love the flowers.

Debbie, if there are enough I would like some seeds too, Please. It looks very pretty.

Yes, there will be enough Josephine. I've got you on the list! =)

I put it in a hanging pot today....I'll take a picture of it in there tomorrow.

Thank you Debbie, did you say that you won't make it to the Dalas swap?

No I can't do that and the Houston Bylb and Plant Mart that THursday--but I will be at College Station Ru with all the plants you wanted--and a few surprises I hope.

Well, we certainly will miss you, we were looking forward to having you here, but sometimes things don't work out the way we planned .
I will bring your plants to the College Station ru also.

Josephine I would try some of your seeds too, if I can put them directly in the soils. :)
I love the stuff you guys donate me ... never had a failure. My perrenial bed never been so full ... I can just pack the plants in. I got red, blues, blueblack, hot pink and I think my Goldenrod is getting ready to open ... Now I am waiting for thr Texas star. :)
Debbie I would like some of yours too for my (empty)hanging basket if I can put them directly in the soil. :)
MELANIE ... this plant in your pic is called Senna? I broke a piece off of a bush at Medical City Hospital... put it in a little vase and tried to root it ... the flowers fell off, but it stayed green for months. However it never rooted for me. I posted it, but no one knew what it was. Is it from a seed or did you buy the plant? I love
that bush!

Sylvia