Introducing BugFiles

The latest feature added to Dave's Garden, at the request of many members in this thread:

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/628548/

It's a database patterned after PlantFiles but exclusively for the creepy friends and foes in all our gardens. You can find it here:

http://davesgarden.com/bf/

It's still in the beta stage and has a lot of rough edges. Wear your hard hat while traversing!! When it's solidly polished off, then I'll add a tab for it up top next to the PlantFiles tab.

Have fun!

Dave

Thanks, Dave! Scurrying for my workboots and hat ;o)

Congrats to JoanJ for the first bug!

I like to find out genus and species name derivations. It appears that the BugFiles pull the binomial information from the Botanary just as the PlantFiles do, since it pulled "maculata" when I added Dolichovespula maculata to the database. Is it OK to begin adding derivations for bug binomials to the Botanary, or should I hold off on this in case there is bug equivalent of the Botanary in the works? Thanks for this new feature, it is great.

-Greg

I noticed (and wondered) the same thing, Greg. My guess - and it's only a guess - is that we can use Botanary for both bugs and plants. But we may have to give it a different name.

Maybe Baa will have another epiphany, since she came up with Botanary ;o)

Buganary? :)

dave

Thank you Dave. So far so good! :)
Do you want us to enter into the bugfiles whatever we have already entered in Garden Terms? Or will you transfer them yourself?

Perfect!!

Insectionary?

Vee8ch, how many are in Garden Terms? If it's less than 50, it'll be easier to just add them to BugFiles and then have us delete them from Garden Terms. If it's more than that, let me know.

dave

I do have a concern that the average gardener will not find the bugfiles helpful if they have to know the Genus name in order to search. Example: Mealy bug - when we id on the foes forums we don't say you have Pseudococcus.
Any thoughts about this?

I believe Terry counted 50. 2-3 were added after that. I'll transfer my additions.
Thank you :)

Dave, cant wait until you get all the bugs out of the beta version! This will be a great resource!!

OOps Dave can you correct a mis spelling please? I made a mistake on the Gulf Fritillary - it should read Genus Nymphalidae not Nymphilidae - - mea culpa!
Sorry to cause trouble so soon!!

An "edit" would be handy - both for names and comments ;o)

That's coming - tomorrow.

Dave, I am delighted with the introduction of Bugfiles. Can we please, before it grows much bigger, have the family added as a field in the entry. It is already causing confusion, because okus has been giving the family name Nymphalidae for all his/her entries in the genus field and then putting the genus and species together in the species field.

All the butterflies that I have added so far are also in the family Nymphalidae, but are recorded by genus, Nymphalis or Vanessa and there is nowhere to put the family
I know this will be a problem for some people, but the family can easily be found on the web and provides a sensible grouping of the bugs with their nearest relations.
I would even undertake to add the families for those species with the field blank, if this could be made possible.
Ken

I've changed my entry in the Name-the-New-Bug-Botanary-Contest, though there really is no such contest, from Insectionary to Entomologos. Here is my entry for Entomologos:

Entomologos - a list of definitions and etymological derivations related to bugs.

Gr. Entomon: insect + Gr. logoi: word, concept.

Of course it has the same two root words as "Entomology", but the -y ending attached to the root logoi has come to mean "the study of" in English, whereas logos, which is one of the cases of the noun based on logoi, has come to be associated with "word" or "the concept that a word conveys" in English.

It doesn't slip off the tongue like Botanary, though.

OK Here is a start. Here are all the families and genera for the American Butterflies:

Ken

Family Hesperiidae – Skippers
Achalarus
Agathymus
Aguna
Amblyscirtes
Anatrytone
Ancyloxypha
Asbolis
Astraptes
Atalopedes
Atrytonopsis
Autochton
Calpodes
Carterocephalus
Celaenorrhinus
Celotes
Chioides
Chiomara
Cogia
Copaeodes
Cymaenes
Eantis
Epargyreus
Ephyriades
Erynnis
Euphyes
Heliopetes
Hesperia
Hylephila
Lerema
Lerodea
Megathymus
Nastra
Nyctelius
Oarisma
Ochlodes
Panoquina
Pellicia
Phocides
Pholisora
Piruna
Poanes
Polites
Polygonus
Pompeius
Problema
Pyrgus
Pyrrhopyge
Quasimellana
Spathilepia
Stallingsia
Staphylus
Thorybes
Thymelicus
Timochares
Urbanus
Wallengrenia

Family Papilionidae – Swallowtails
Battus
Eurytides
Papilio
Parnassius

Family Pieridae - Whites and Yellows
Anteos
Anthocharis
Aphrissa
Appias
Ascia
Colias
Euchloe
Eurema
Ganyra
Kricogonia
Nathalis
Phoebis
Pieris
Pontia
Pyrisitia
Zerene

Family Lycaenidae - Gossamer Winged Butterflies
Agriades
Atlides
Brephidium
Callophrys
Calycopis
Celastrina
Chlorostrymon
Cyclargus
Echinargus
Electrostrymon
Erora
Eumaeus
Euphilotes
Everes
Feniseca
Fixsenia
Glaucopsyche
Habrodais
Hemiargus
Hypaurotis
Leptotes
Lycaeides
Lycaena
Ministrymon
Oenomaus
Parrhasius
Plebejus
Rekoa
Satyrium
Strymon

Family Riodinidae – Metalmarks
Apodemia
Calephelis
Caria
Melanis

Family Nymphalidae - Brushfooted Butterflies
Adelpha
Agraulis
Anaea
Anartia
Asterocampa
Biblis
Boloria
Cercyonis
Chlosyne
Coenonympha
Cyllopsis
Danaus
Diaethria
Doxocopa
Dryadula
Dryas
Dymasia
Dynamine
Enodia
Epiphile
Erebia
Euphydryas
Euptoieta
Hamadryas
Heliconius
Hermeuptychia
Idea
Junonia
Libytheana
Limenitis
Marpesia
Megisto
Mestra
Morpho
Myscelia
Neonympha
Nymphalis
Oeneis
Phyciodes
Poladryas
Polygonia
Satyrodes
Siproeta
Smyrna
Speyeria
Texola
Vanessa

This website may be useful, this list has all the ones listed on this site in systematic order. It includes moths and butterflies.

http://ukmoths.org.uk/systematic.php?mode=full

Moths only list

http://ukmoths.org.uk/systematic.php

That'll teach me to be away for a few days I had no idea this was going on.

Is this new database just for insects or all animal pests or have I missed something vital here?

I like the name "The Millipedia" but on looking through google it's been taken.

What about "The Invertabratum" or "The Insectatorium" of course these are dependant on what the database if for.

This site has the most recent (and only somewhat controversial) Scorpionidae revision at the family level. For those that are interested, this site adopts the Prendini/Wheeler revision of Fet/Soleglad, though they are still fighting it out in the Ivory Tower. I think it is the most appropriate for the BugFiles because of its relative simplicity, though I will certainly yield the floor to impassioned arachnologists who have a beef with Prendini/Wheeler.

http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/higher_phylogeny.php

I'll add the Family field to the database tomorrow (hopefully).

Also, tomorrow I will add the ability to edit entries to fix these kinds of issues.

Plus I'll add in access control so that admins can edit stuff and we'll also be able to provide additional admin access to various genera the way we do with PF.

dave

Okay, I added in the Family field to the database and also Terry has access to edit any entry (so use the "Contact Us" link at the bottom for any edits for the time being)

I'll have better access control later.

dave

Terry now has access to edit, move and delete all the images in the BF.

That's it for today.

dave

Personally I think the Botanary should remain just for plants, perhaps the insect one can draw from the Botanary for commonly held words.

To me, and quite possibly a lot of others, Bugs are sucking insects but I noticed there are non-bugs in the database already. Will it remain as BugFiles?

Woo Hoo for Bug Files!

I found a good European butterfly guide

http://www.butterfly-guide.co.uk/./species/index.htm

That would be a true bug...yes. But insectfiles just doesn't have the same catchiness ;o)

I think it should include all animal pest and helpers, because isn't part of the point trying to figure out what needs to be kept out of your garden, and how to do it? The only problem is what would you call it at that point, Garden visitor files?

Neither feel right to me, InsectFiles would be wrong too, you have Arachnids in there :)

FaunaFiles LOL

I can feel it coming, with all this indecision it will become the 'X' files!

Baa - I actually do like the name FaunaFiles for what I think we are trying to do!

Would you change PlantFiles to FloraFiles then? lol

To me fauna implies the 4 legged visitors too (deer, gophers, raccoons, etc) and I didn't think those were included?

Another with Moths and Butterflies of Europe and North Africa

http://www.leps.it/indexjs.htm?SpeciesPages/GonepRhamn.htm

Zhinu
Well ideally yes but I would be infavour of keeping PlantFiles as it's already an established name. *G*

Wallaby

I doubt there is any indecision about the BugFiles name at all, the original question re names was regarding the Botanary taking on the definitions for the Insects too which I'm opposed for several reasons. I was giving out names for a seperate zoological name dictionary and then thought that BugFiles itself was not a name I agree with but it's by no means my decision nor has my opinion been asked, I'm just giving out a freebie personal view ;)

Ecrane I haven't read the thread that initiated this the whole way through hence my question what was the database about.

It's one of the great truism, everyone get to have an opinion. We just have to remember that while we can share our opinion, it might not change anything. To be able to change something you have to have a say, not an opinion, but you might be able to change someone with a says opinion, if you share yours.

One of my opinions, I don't see any reason it should not include birds and beasts. They defiantly have an effect on our gardens, and it would seem to me that it would be nice to know which birds eat insects and which eat your fruit and vegetables, or that this type lizard eats bugs, but this one will eat your tulips (or whatever I can't think of any real examples at the moment, it's been too hot the last couple days and I haven't been sleeping well). I live in an area that has the basic urban mammals so there is not much that comes around that I don't know what is, but I have lived in areas with strange rodents, snakes that I didn't know what were, etc. and I could even see people new to an area wanting information on possums, foxes, raccoons, deer, river otters, geese, etc... that we have here, if they moved from somewhere that didn't have them. I can't see how the system would have to be changed to have birds, animals, and insects all in there, so why not make the system as useful as possible?

I forgot to spell check this before posting.

This message was edited Jul 24, 2006 6:23 PM

Baa - I think we are still trying to decide exactly what the database is about. It started because someone asked for a place to put pictures of positively IDed bugs, and we're still expanding from there.